August 7, 201412 yr Author Well Murphy is a legit hitter. I'd be all about that. Byrd would serve zero purpose to the Marlins, thankfully we have a great OF going into next season. I would love murphy as well but unless i read what i just read wrong he is not a free agent until after next year. I would really go after one of the cubs young infielders in a trade for pitching and then try as hard as possible to sign Pablo Sandoval even though he would be expensive. 27 years old and very consistent and would be perfect either as our number 3 hitter ahead of stanton or 4 behind him.
August 7, 201412 yr I would love murphy as well but unless i read what i just read wrong he is not a free agent until after next year. I would really go after one of the cubs young infielders in a trade for pitching and then try as hard as possible to sign Pablo Sandoval even though he would be expensive. 27 years old and very consistent and would be perfect either as our number 3 hitter ahead of stanton or 4 behind him. They're not going after a 3B, not even for a second. And until McGehee fails, they really shouldn't. Sandoval is Marcell Ozuna 2.0 anyway. You can only have so many high risk high reward bats in the lineup.
August 7, 201412 yr Author They're not going after a 3B, not even for a second. And until McGehee fails, they really shouldn't. Sandoval is Marcell Ozuna 2.0 anyway. You can only have so many high risk high reward bats in the lineup. Sandoval is nothing like Ozuna. Sandoval doesnt strike out a lot at all. Ozuna has 124 k's already this year, sandovals career high is 83. and mcgehee has been ok if you just take counting stats but he has had absolutely no power this year and outperformed his career OBP by a mile and is going to regress. It would be absolutely retarded just to pencil in mcgehee for 3b next year. people try to make him out to be an all star this year and some sort of revelation but he has a .740 OPS. very replaceable and we should be looking to upgrade.
August 7, 201412 yr They're not going after a 3B, not even for a second. And until McGehee fails, they really shouldn't. Sandoval is Marcell Ozuna 2.0 anyway. You can only have so many high risk high reward bats in the lineup. Spike?
August 7, 201412 yr They're not going after a 3B, not even for a second. And until McGehee fails, they really shouldn't. Sandoval is Marcell Ozuna 2.0 anyway. You can only have so many high risk high reward bats in the lineup. I'd say McGehee is in pure fail mode post ASG
August 7, 201412 yr srsly have you guys seen mcgehee's slash line since the break (.189/.289/.246)? how the fuck is this guy still hitting cleanup
August 7, 201412 yr Sandoval is nothing like Ozuna. Sandoval doesnt strike out a lot at all. Ozuna has 124 k's already this year, sandovals career high is 83. and mcgehee has been ok if you just take counting stats but he has had absolutely no power this year and outperformed his career OBP by a mile and is going to regress. It would be absolutely retarded just to pencil in mcgehee for 3b next year. people try to make him out to be an all star this year and some sort of revelation but he has a .740 OPS. very replaceable and we should be looking to upgrade. Honestly didn't know that about Sandoval. I feel like every time I see him hit he's either striking out on a huge swing or crushing a ball on the same huge swing. I'm a bit surprised by that. One thing Sandoval does well is play some third base. Dude has a nice glove at third. The season isn't over, but McGehee will be the third baseman next year and that's pretty clear. Not to say he should be, but we probably have bigger problems.
August 7, 201412 yr Author And I'm saying that that would be incredibly idiotic and completely ignorant to tools around them to think that mcgehee should be a clear cut starter next year just because he has had plenty of opportunities to hit with runners in scoring positions and has had an abnormally high BABIP especially considering he has no power.
August 7, 201412 yr Honestly didn't know that about Sandoval. I feel like every time I see him hit he's either striking out on a huge swing or crushing a ball on the same huge swing. I'm a bit surprised by that. One thing Sandoval does well is play some third base. Dude has a nice glove at third. The season isn't over, but McGehee will be the third baseman next year and that's pretty clear. Not to say he should be, but we probably have bigger problems. If McGehee stops hitting for average and we assume his horrendous power #s stay the same then I'd say we have a very big issue at 3b.
August 7, 201412 yr Author Would love a deal centered around Koehler and Dietrich or maybe a lower level pitching guy like Trevor williams for Arismendy Alcantara. Really just want one of the cubs young infield guys and i think he would fit best/would be the most open to be traded.
August 7, 201412 yr Would love a deal centered around Koehler and Dietrich or maybe a lower level pitching guy like Trevor williams for Arismendy Alcantara. Really just want one of the cubs young infield guys and i think he would fit best/would be the most open to be traded. Koehler actually has some value I think.
August 7, 201412 yr Author We shouldn't trade Koehler or any young guy capable of being a starting pitcher. For a starting position player that will improve out lineup absolutely we should especially considering our depth
August 7, 201412 yr They're not going after a 3B, not even for a second. And until McGehee fails, they really shouldn't. Sandoval is Marcell Ozuna 2.0 anyway. You can only have so many high risk high reward bats in the lineup.
August 7, 201412 yr They're not going after a 3B, not even for a second. And until McGehee fails, they really shouldn't. Sandoval is Marcell Ozuna 2.0 anyway. You can only have so many high risk high reward bats in the lineup. I won't dispute that. I already admitted I was wrong.
August 7, 201412 yr Author Our depth sucks. We have great sp depth not sure what you're talking about
August 7, 201412 yr We have great sp depth not sure what you're talking about With each prospect that fails to live up to expectation, it gets thinner and thinner.
August 7, 201412 yr We have great sp depth not sure what you're talking about I'm not sure what depth you're looking at, but our SP depth is not good. Not good enough to be trading some away, at least. Also, it doesn't matter because a guy like Koehler doesn't get you Alcantara, anyway.
August 7, 201412 yr Author I'm not sure what depth you're looking at, but our SP depth is not good. Not good enough to be trading some away, at least. Also, it doesn't matter because a guy like Koehler doesn't get you Alcantara, anyway. We have Fernandez Alvarez Eovaldi Koehler Hand Heaney Urena Conley Nicolino Flynn Desclafani Williams Thats a lot of depth to not even include the #2 overall pick in the draft from this past year. We should absolutely be trading away from some of that depth if it could mean getting a guy like Alcantara and I think you are overrating him because while yes, he is a nice prospect, they have an overabundance of hitting prospects and are going to have to trade some of it off for pitching in the future. Obviously not all of those will turn out and some will be better in the bullpen but that is more than enough starting pitching considering our bullpen depth as well to be able to trade a guy like a Koehler who is probably not going to get much better than he is right now.
August 7, 201412 yr I'm not sure what depth you're looking at, but our SP depth is not good. Not good enough to be trading some away, at least. Also, it doesn't matter because a guy like Koehler doesn't get you Alcantara, anyway. Outside of today, I think Kohler has pitched pretty well for a 4th or 5th starter. Our problem is he's our 2/3. I want Big Salad to stay and finish the year, hell have good numbers at the end. We should be trading SP prospects who haven't come up yet and struggled for other teams prospects, or even trade what may still have value. Nicolino, Disco, Flynn. If we can trade Turner for some decent Bullpen Arms I'll be happy.
August 7, 201412 yr We have Fernandez Alvarez Eovaldi Koehler Hand Heaney Urena Conley Nicolino Flynn Desclafani Williams Thats a lot of depth to not even include the #2 overall pick in the draft from this past year. We should absolutely be trading away from some of that depth if it could mean getting a guy like Alcantara and I think you are overrating him because while yes, he is a nice prospect, they have an overabundance of hitting prospects and are going to have to trade some of it off for pitching in the future. Obviously not all of those will turn out and some will be better in the bullpen but that is more than enough starting pitching considering our bullpen depth as well to be able to trade a guy like a Koehler who is probably not going to get much better than he is right now. That list isn't all that impressive. It's what your average organization looks like in terms of pitching depth. The only special arm in that group is Jose Fernandez. Fernandez is expected to miss a couple of months in '15, and you don't know exactly how he's going to comeback. A lot of those guys project to be average/below average SP's at the big league level long-term. We should be keeping whatever depth we have unless it's a trade we can't pass up. For what it's worth, you did leave Cosart off the list although it doesn't necessarily make it a lot more impressive by putting him on it.
August 7, 201412 yr Just throwing it out there... Vince0926 and fish14 are definitely the exact same person. Twinsies. For sure.
August 7, 201412 yr The Marlins do not have a surplus of pitching. They have 8 teams with atleast 10 pitchers each..... They have atleast 80 pitchers to trade
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