May 31, 201511 yr it appears to me they both need Tommy John surgeries and they are reluctant. Wouldn't they be better off if they just got done already so they can be ready by next year. Latos can't lose 6 miles off his fast ball from age 24 to 27. He better hope it's tommy John surgery otherwise he could be done....forever.
May 31, 201511 yr Why do you assume Latos needs tommy john? He just appears to be fat and out of shape, isn't his injury lower body related? And Alvarez has pitched years with his problem, tommy john is a worst case scenario.
May 31, 201511 yr Author Babe his fastball is topping off at 92 when for years it was topping off at 97 therefore making his off-speed obsolete and therefore getting thrashed out there. Also with Alvarez this is absurd him missing 10 starts a year because of a torn all. Shut it down and get the surgery already...
May 31, 201511 yr Babe his fastball is topping off at 92 when for years it was topping off at 97 therefore making his off-speed obsolete and therefore getting thrashed out there. Also with Alvarez this is absurd him missing 10 starts a year because of a torn all. Shut it down and get the surgery already... that doesnt mean he needs tommy john, thats a ridiculous leap to make from lost velocity alone. he is out of shape and also not as young as he used to be, though he shouldn't have lost that much off his fastball. Alvarez missed starts 2 years ago because of his shoulder if i recall correctly, not his elbow. edit- also please don't call me babe
May 31, 201511 yr that doesnt mean he needs tommy john, thats a ridiculous leap to make from lost velocity alone. he is out of shape and also not as young as he used to be, though he shouldn't have lost that much off his fastball. Alvarez missed starts 2 years ago because of his shoulder if i recall correctly, not his elbow. edit- also please don't call me babe Bae
May 31, 201511 yr Author I apologize for calling you babe... Back to the topic at hand this guy is a UFA at the end of the year, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Seems he's more consumed with body art than baseball. If Disco Dan turns out to be a solid #3 then chalk one up for bad trade Jennings. (Though I will give him credit for the Dee Gordon trade.
May 31, 201511 yr I apologize for calling you babe... Back to the topic at hand this guy is a UFA at the end of the year, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Seems he's more consumed with body art than baseball. If Disco Dan turns out to be a solid #3 then chalk one up for bad trade Jennings. (Though I will give him credit for the Dee Gordon trade. What does him being a free agent have to do with tommy john? He either needs it or he doesn't and he pretty clearly doesn't. You don't give a guy tommy john just because he isn't pitching wel
May 31, 201511 yr Author What does him being a free agent have to do with tommy john? He either needs it or he doesn't and he pretty clearly doesn't. You don't give a guy tommy john just because he isn't pitching wel Well what your saying is spot on right, I apologize for the mindless drivel, just upset how someone who make more in six months than I will in my lifetime has so much of I don't give a fuck in him...When making a trade we have to look into character from time to time...
May 31, 201511 yr Well what your saying is spot on right, I apologize for the mindless drivel, just upset how someone who make more in six months than I will in my lifetime has so much of I don't give a fuck in him...When making a trade we have to look into character from time to time... they are people too. just because they aren't getting results doesnt mean they don't give a fuck. it might just mean they aren't good.
May 31, 201511 yr Author they are people too. just because they aren't getting results doesnt mean they don't give a fuck. it might just mean they aren't good. Not to go back and forth considering I'm new and want to gain a reputation as being a peaceful and happy member of this community but I'm finding some descrepencies (so) with your last post. He isn't good anymore well two years ago he was great, what's happened since then. Also him not not caring anymore, well I'm sorry sir but he came into the year out out of shape. This is not a poor Steve Cishek case where they have picked up on his arm release and can now spot the ball more easily leading him to get pummeled out there. Latos came into camp fat and is one of the main reasons we are ten games under .500 and not four games under .500. He's been abysmal and That's why I assumed, no I hoped ( as awful as that may sound) that there is something wrong with the elbow...
May 31, 201511 yr Latos has a knee injury and Alvarez is having shoulder issues... I'm confused why this thread exists. It's starting to make me think Morse needs Tommy John for his finger and Don Kelly needs Tommy John for his hand. Maybe Cosart needs Tommy John for his ear issues?
May 31, 201511 yr My feet are tired from walking yesterday, I better check with James Andrews about some Tommy John
May 31, 201511 yr Not to go back and forth considering I'm new and want to gain a reputation as being a peaceful and happy member of this community but I'm finding some descrepencies (so) with your last post. He isn't good anymore well two years ago he was great, what's happened since then. Also him not not caring anymore, well I'm sorry sir but he came into the year out out of shape. This is not a poor Steve Cishek case where they have picked up on his arm release and can now spot the ball more easily leading him to get pummeled out there. Latos came into camp fat and is one of the main reasons we are ten games under .500 and not four games under .500. He's been abysmal and That's why I assumed, no I hoped ( as awful as that may sound) that there is something wrong with the elbow... He could be fat because he's had knee problems the last 2 years and he's not a skinny guy to begin with. Lol tommy john isn't a surgery you go ahead and give a guy because you don't know what is wrong with him.
May 31, 201511 yr @AEK OF ATHENS, don't go to med school. runny nose? Ya thats a clear signal of AIDS
May 31, 201511 yr Author OK I get it don't beat a dead horse here, drop in velocity so drastic could mean something serious, don't be a bunch of malakas...
June 1, 201511 yr Latos has a knee injury and Alvarez is having shoulder issues... I'm confused why this thread exists. It's starting to make me think Morse needs Tommy John for his finger and Don Kelly needs Tommy John for his hand. Maybe Cosart needs Tommy John for his ear issues? It's been said Alvarez has had a torn UCL since our trade with Toronto but he's pitched through it. It was repeated earlier this year. Think about the Yankees situation with Tanaka, same thing
June 1, 201511 yr OK I get it don't beat a dead horse here, drop in velocity so drastic could mean something serious, don't be a bunch of malakas... Malakas?
June 1, 201511 yr Shit, I knew Josh Beckett needed Tommy John for those damn blisters back in the early 2000s. OK OK I think he gets the point. It's just too fun being a prick.
June 1, 201511 yr Malakas? A derogatory Greek term for someone who practices masturbation, similar to 'wanker' in English.
June 1, 201511 yr A derogatory Greek term for someone who practices masturbation, similar to 'wanker' in English. Thanks! So @AEK OF ATHENS is Uncle Jesse?
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