October 19, 20169 yr It's just all meaningless right now. Damn, you hanging out with @canada-marlin24?
October 19, 20169 yr Author Damn, you hanging out with @canada-marlin24? I wonder if they're hanging out in Taiwan or in Canada?
December 3, 20169 yr In Jose's case, it wasn't a matter of accepting either $40 million or $250 million. If he had taken the Marlins offer or something in that neighborhood, he would have been set for life and then be able to set himself up nicely for the mega deal when he was in his prime. MarlinsLou always had a similar thought process when he was explaining how affordable a lot of arbitration buyouts plus extensions would be. Jose and [mostly] Boras got a little greedy. Sure, Jose didn't expect to die in a boating accident, but life happens. He could have had more nagging injuries too. Very few Americans will have the opportunity to earn $40 million over their entire lifetimes and he would have earned it before he was $30 million. I am not trying to knock Jose, but he really didn't demonstrate that he wanted to remain a Marlin long term. The ironic thing is that Jose's family is now going to depend heavily on the charity of Jeffrey Loria after Jose and Boras stiffed him in contract negotiations. I know this all comes off as mean-spirited and resentful, but the awkward thing for me in all of the mourning over the past few weeks is that I never really got the impression from Jose that he was very committed to the Marlins despite how much they cherished him. I feel comfortable saying this now, considering it's been months - but there truly were two different Jose's. The public face the franchise and he pushed and the one where the camera's weren't rolling and he was left to be his own man and not the show in the middle of the party. The man in his more intimate moments and how he treated those who can do nothing for him is a sharp contrast from the persona we all loved and adored. He would have left for the highest dollar, but Loria- in all this grief, has shown he would have put up a legitimate fight. That, at least, is comforting. In the end, it was Jose's decision to not accept or to accept any contract offered. Whatever his reasons were- I'm sure they were coming from a place of greed and arrogance, rather than a place of hedging his bets and securing his family and it's legacy. Face it, even if he blew out his arm twice over the next 2 seasons... and underwent Tommy John Surgeries until his 30's... somebody would have taken the chance on him and he would have been paid well enough. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsjo09.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarhe01.shtml
December 4, 20169 yr I feel comfortable saying this now, considering it's been months - but there truly were two different Jose's. The public face the franchise and he pushed and the one where the camera's weren't rolling and he was left to be his own man and not the show in the middle of the party. The man in his more intimate moments and how he treated those who can do nothing for him is a sharp contrast from the persona we all loved and adored. He would have left for the highest dollar, but Loria- in all this grief, has shown he would have put up a legitimate fight. That, at least, is comforting. In the end, it was Jose's decision to not accept or to accept any contract offered. Whatever his reasons were- I'm sure they were coming from a place of greed and arrogance, rather than a place of hedging his bets and securing his family and it's legacy. Face it, even if he blew out his arm twice over the next 2 seasons... and underwent Tommy John Surgeries until his 30's... somebody would have taken the chance on him and he would have been paid well enough. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsjo09.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarhe01.shtml Yes but his agent was not going to let him take a contract offer regardless. So, your position is moot. Not sure where this is going.
December 4, 20169 yr I feel comfortable saying this now, considering it's been months - but there truly were two different Jose's. The public face the franchise and he pushed and the one where the camera's weren't rolling and he was left to be his own man and not the show in the middle of the party. The man in his more intimate moments and how he treated those who can do nothing for him is a sharp contrast from the persona we all loved and adored. He would have left for the highest dollar, but Loria- in all this grief, has shown he would have put up a legitimate fight. That, at least, is comforting. In the end, it was Jose's decision to not accept or to accept any contract offered. Whatever his reasons were- I'm sure they were coming from a place of greed and arrogance, rather than a place of hedging his bets and securing his family and it's legacy. Face it, even if he blew out his arm twice over the next 2 seasons... and underwent Tommy John Surgeries until his 30's... somebody would have taken the chance on him and he would have been paid well enough. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsjo09.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarhe01.shtml bro it was all boras. that's why players hire agents.
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