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2 hours ago, Valid said:

I understand the game has changed, but it's still so weird that this is how no-hitters typically are nowadays. You don't see single-pitcher no-hitters nearly as much.

Huh?  This isn't really true.  I looked up stats from 2012 on, and here's what I found.  While it has happened more often more recently, your statement isn't really accurate - just last year it was a 7:2 ratio in favor of individual no hitters.

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@rmc523

I stand corrected then. I guess a more accurate statement would have been there are many more team no-hitters than previously. Typically it would always just be a single pitcher (e.g. in that graph you showed, there have been six team no-hitters from 2018 through now; between 2015 and 2017, all eight no-hitters were single pitchers, and only two team no-hitters occurred from 2012 through 2017).

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1 hour ago, Valid said:

@rmc523

I stand corrected then. I guess a more accurate statement would have been there are many more team no-hitters than previously. Typically it would always just be a single pitcher (e.g. in that graph you showed, there have been six team no-hitters from 2018 through now; between 2015 and 2017, all eight no-hitters were single pitchers, and only two team no-hitters occurred from 2012 through 2017).

That's fair enough.  I was curious and looked through more numbers going back further - went ahead and did the last 5 decades.....

Here's per year:

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And per decade:

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1993-2012 actually decreased combined no hitters compared to the prior 2 decades, but combined no hitters from 2013-2022 have had nearly as many as the previous 4 decades combined (7 vs. 9), and obviously the 2022 season has just started, so it's possible it ties that.

Individual no hitters have increased too, but obviously not at the same rate........they've increased roughly 1/3 from the '93-02 low, vs a 7x increase against that same low for combined no hitters.

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Starting pitchers aren't built to go 9 every night and teams/pitching staffs aren't built for complete games anymore. No hitters are still gonna happen but managers aren't managing for one man no hitters anymore so if a guy needs to come out of the game he's gonna come out regardless of the no hitter. It's just a different time. 

Makes me wonder how the no hitters of today would unfold if they were managed by managers from back in time. Like you have a pitcher who can really only 6 innings and now the manager is forcing them push for all 9. We'd probably lose a bunch of the potential no hitters. Maybe the way they do it now is actually the best way to complete the no hitters. 

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