February 15, 200422 yr Oakland is awesome because Billy Beane is a genius. Imagine him with 200 million dollars to spend on players :confused
February 15, 200422 yr Yankees again get another great player but can their lack of pitching be made up by all these hitters?
February 15, 200422 yr Yes, the small market teams have had success the last couple of years, but the big market team's spending never really got out of hand. The Yankees team last year was not that great, it had several gaping holes. This year with the things that the Red Sox and Yankees have done it has gotten out of hand. They have had the ability to pick up whatever big name player that they want at will. The Yankees have an all-star at every position except 2nd base. (but I can almost guarantee you they'll have one by July 31st) It is going to get to a point where these small market teams will not be able to compete. Maybe not this year, but somewhere down the road if it keeps heading in this direction.
February 15, 200422 yr Yankees again get another great player but can their lack of pitching be made up by all these hitters? Brown Mussina Vasquez Lieber Contreras 4 former all-stars and Contreras who might be the best 5th starter in the league next year. I wouldn't call that a lack of pitching.
February 15, 200422 yr first off.... the rangers should of made the yankees pay the entire contract. secondly... jonny is right. Miami is NOT a small market. Wake up and stop using that excuse. If you want to see it as a market where the team is struggling with revenues then thats true. But its not the market that is small. this is just a riduclious deal. the yankees get stronger...but do they get that much stronger and is it worth the payroll increase? oh well let them worry about it. i still say that we are just seeing the yankees moving their problems from one position to another.
February 15, 200422 yr To The Salary Cap, if it would be put in place, Baseball would die, One of the most exciting thing about Baseball is the offseason and the trade deadlines where cap issues do not come in to play as much. Um, baseball is already in a coma WITHOUT the salary cap! how would it die WITH it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? honestly, u make no sense...... i dunno if youve been hearing but just about every team is loosing money. :banghead :mischief2
February 15, 200422 yr Yes, the small market teams have had success the last couple of years, but the big market team's spending never really got out of hand. The Yankees team last year was not that great, it had several gaping holes. This year with the things that the Red Sox and Yankees have done it has gotten out of hand. They have had the ability to pick up whatever big name player that they want at will. The Yankees have an all-star at every position except 2nd base. (but I can almost guarantee you they'll have one by July 31st) It is going to get to a point where these small market teams will not be able to compete. Maybe not this year, but somewhere down the road if it keeps heading in this direction. actually, i think itll work in reverse. down the road the big market teams will regret spending so much money. they are biting off more than they can chew. u just dont realize it when you first bite (catch my drift?)
February 15, 200422 yr Yes, the small market teams have had success the last couple of years, but the big market team's spending never really got out of hand. The Yankees team last year was not that great, it had several gaping holes. This year with the things that the Red Sox and Yankees have done it has gotten out of hand. They have had the ability to pick up whatever big name player that they want at will. The Yankees have an all-star at every position except 2nd base. (but I can almost guarantee you they'll have one by July 31st) It is going to get to a point where these small market teams will not be able to compete. Maybe not this year, but somewhere down the road if it keeps heading in this direction. actually, i think itll work in reverse. down the road the big market teams will regret spending so much money. they are biting off more than they can chew. u just dont realize it when you first bite (catch my drift?) I hope your right, but it seems to me that money is not a factor to George. He'll gladly take on as much money as it takes to win championships year in and year out.
February 15, 200422 yr The trade: This has to the biggest trade since Sheffield-Piazza, if not since Frank Robinson. And don't worry it will happen. Bud was so pressed to get ARod eastward that he bent rules and extended deadlines for the Boston move. The impact: Oh shut up. Both Boston and New York are guilty of overspending. Their minor league systems are utter trash as a result they will switch places with the Orioles and Devil Rays sooner or later. They do this because of their market. The east coast, especially the northeast is the prosperous and populated region of the country, and the teams are going to get more money from broadcasting contracts and advertising than anyone else can dream of. They do it because they can. The Yankees: Don't see how ARod at third, Jeter at short and Cairo/Lamb at second as much of an improvement. That's still a horrible defense. And if the 'minor league pitcher' is DePaula, there is no one to backup an injury-prone Brown, a guy who hasn't pitched in 18 months and old Cuban posing as a thirty-something. AL East crown is a good bet, but don't go writing in 110 wins or making comparisions to the 1927 squad. But that's all that matters, beating Boston, right?
February 15, 200422 yr Didnt Brown just come off an awesome season? He had a back injury the previous season no?
February 15, 200422 yr hell i dont know what im talking about... all i know is that baseball was the number one story today..... and Hockey was the #1 story the day that Jagr was traded to the Rangers, but that didn't mean it was good for the game... well i think its good to the game but iih have also had a little bit to driunk tonight but even a sober Ramp would think so.... i think then let's agree to disagree I think that there are some positives from this, but the negatives far outweigh them. positives: Yankees have better (best) offense in baseball Baseball grabs headlines away from NBA negatives: Rich get richer Yankee fans grow in S. Fl...? But does this REALLY change things? It has always been the case in modern baseball yet the small market teams are winning. By the way - Miami is NOT a small market. More like small revenue - but that will change soon. As long as we keep winning. I don't think you quite understand what you're saying. Directly or indirectly, you're advocating an MLB that essentially has only the Yankees and Red Sox. Look, this is a great front page story, but when the Red Sox got Schilling and Foulke, it was the same "splash," and simply because of the passing of time, its impact has faded. The only time the MLB really stole thunder away from the other sports was during the post-season, which most feel was the best the sport has ever seen. That's the only way to make the league stronger, more exciting competitively equal play. People don't like to watch a 24-4 blowout, they want drama in the ninth. It's a big story right now, but the long lasting ramifications could be crippling to the sport. Look, the NFL became a much more exciting league once the parity of the salary cap era took place, and the NHL will not have a season next year and may never recover because of such a great imbalance in spending that will force the upcoming lock-out. Write it down, this trade will be remembered 25 years from now as the move that officially ended this "era" in baseball. I don't understand the argument that Baseball is better off with ARod in a Yankee uniform or a Red Sox uniform, ARod is Arod, so appreciate him wherever he plays.
February 15, 200422 yr HUH???? why on earth would a team put a-rod at 3rd base and keep derek jeter at shortstop? that's retarded. definitely. What are you two talking about? You dont think the transition from SS to 3B is relatively painless? SS's are usually the best athletes on the field. They usually end up at 3B at the end of their careers anyway. Travis Fryman came up as a SS intially, became a 3B. Cal Ripken ended up playing 3B - but probably could have made that transition earlier but pride and a streak wouldnt let him. There are countless examples (Miguel Cabrera, ahem) that demonstrate this. i think you misunderstood the point. jeter sucks at shortstop. i'd rather put him at 3rd than a-rod.
February 15, 200422 yr I don't understand the argument that Baseball is better off with ARod in a Yankee uniform or a Red Sox uniform, ARod is Arod, so appreciate him wherever he plays. Don't you think that baseball might draw a few fans who will be able to see A-Rod on TV more if he was with the Yankees than the Rangers?
February 15, 200422 yr Right now, the Yankees pitching is not all that great and they will need the offensive boost to make up the difference. Finally, to win the World Series it is all about pitching. Good pitching beats our great hitting just about anytime. As long as a team has good pitching, they can patchwork an offense to score runs and win. In other words, money does NOT equal wins. That formula has failed more often than suceeded. money does not equal wins, but at this point I find it very hard to believe that the yankees aren't going to literally steamroll over other teams. Their talent at this point is absurd. Is a world series championship guarenteed? No, in october the best team at the moment wins. But is it close to guarenteed? My money would definitely be on the yankees, that's for sure. Now concerning your comment on pitching, the yankees have some of the best pitching in the majors. Mike Mussina 3.40 Kevin Brown 2.39 Javier Vazquez 3.24 Jose Contreras 3.30 Jon Lieber (last available era) 3.70 rough average era: 3.21 Mariano Rivera 1.66 Tom Gordon 3.16 Paul Quantrill 1.75 Gabe White 4.05 Steve Karsay (last available era) 3.26 Felix Heredia 2.69 rough average ERA: 2.76 You say that pitching isn't "all that great"? It is awesome. That is some damn good pitching.
February 15, 200422 yr The impact: Oh shut up. Both Boston and New York are guilty of overspending. Their minor league systems are utter trash as a result they will switch places with the Orioles and Devil Rays sooner or later. that is naive. When their current players get older then they'll just reload by spending even more money. They've done it before and they'll do it again. Who needs a minor league system when you can spend a lot of money to get the best players in the league.
February 15, 200422 yr To The Salary Cap, if it would be put in place, Baseball would die, One of the most exciting thing about Baseball is the offseason and the trade deadlines where cap issues do not come in to play as much. Um, baseball is already in a coma WITHOUT the salary cap! how would it die WITH it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? honestly, u make no sense...... i dunno if youve been hearing but just about every team is loosing money. :banghead :mischief2 Is that you trying to be smart. Answer me these two questions... Playoff ratings up or down from the past few years, this year? Whose All Star Games and Some Conference Championship games are being played on Basic Cable, Oh yeah it's Basketball. Stop playing me this, Baseball is the only true sport that can claim headlines all year round without scandals occuring and what because teams lose money it's bad for baseball? If your buying A Baseball team to make money, you have the worst financial advisor in the history of the world. The problem is owners who buy teams to make money first at the cost of a winning team. The Brewers raped their own city and have done nothing and yet it always comes back to The Brewers or teams like that, getting all the pity. Please, don't start using names till you have facts because Baseball is far from being in a coma. As we all know Hockey and Basketball are doing so much better than Baseball.
February 15, 200422 yr I don't understand the argument that Baseball is better off with ARod in a Yankee uniform or a Red Sox uniform, ARod is Arod, so appreciate him wherever he plays. Don't you think that baseball might draw a few fans who will be able to see A-Rod on TV more if he was with the Yankees than the Rangers? So then the NBA would have loved for Michael Jordan to end up on the Knicks (like the "fudged" the draft envelopes to make sure Patrick Ewing ended up there), but he made Chicago a big market. It's bad for baseball if there's a guy on a team, like Pujols, or even now Beckett or Cabrera, who is amazingly good and has the potential to lead his team, yet fans can't or won't embrace them fully because they know deep down that they'll bolt to the Yankees or Red Sox because those two are going to outspend everyone else. I think that if you have a guy who is a special player, it's good for them to go to a market other than NY or Boston; those two teams will be around forever, so why not use the talent to attract interest in other teams? It just seems odd to me that people feel that making the strongest media market stronger helps baseball as a whole.
February 15, 200422 yr Didnt Brown just come off an awesome season? He had a back injury the previous season no? Brown has been riddled with injuries ever since he left the Marlins. He hasn't been worth that $100 million deal at all, with the exception of last season.
February 15, 200422 yr As we all know Hockey and Basketball are doing so much better than Baseball. How is hockey doing better? They over marketed their product, putting a franchise in Columbus of all places, and now they've lost approx. $256 million this year. Not to mention the impending labor talks, which the league already dreads. Basketball isn't getting the ratings it used to in the early '90's.
February 15, 200422 yr As we all know Hockey and Basketball are doing so much better than Baseball. How is hockey doing better? They over marketed their product, putting a franchise in Columbus of all places, and now they've lost approx. $256 million this year. Not to mention the impending labor talks, which the league already dreads. Basketball isn't getting the ratings it used to in the early '90's. It's called Sarcasm, read the words above it
February 15, 200422 yr To The Salary Cap, if it would be put in place, Baseball would die, One of the most exciting thing about Baseball is the offseason and the trade deadlines where cap issues do not come in to play as much. Um, baseball is already in a coma WITHOUT the salary cap! how would it die WITH it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? honestly, u make no sense...... i dunno if youve been hearing but just about every team is loosing money. :banghead :mischief2 Is that you trying to be smart. Answer me these two questions... Playoff ratings up or down from the past few years, this year? yes, and think about that for a moment. playoff ratings were up this year because people enjoy watching teams that usually have no shot at winning it all--teams that haven't won titles in 50 or 100 years--seriously compete for a pennant or WS title. on the other hand, people DON'T like to watch a couple teams that happen to compete for the title every single year. parity is an excellent thing for pro sports. surely everyone would agree that a salary cap could only increase parity in baseball.
February 15, 200422 yr To The Salary Cap, if it would be put in place, Baseball would die, One of the most exciting thing about Baseball is the offseason and the trade deadlines where cap issues do not come in to play as much. Um, baseball is already in a coma WITHOUT the salary cap! how would it die WITH it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? honestly, u make no sense...... i dunno if youve been hearing but just about every team is loosing money. :banghead :mischief2 Is that you trying to be smart. Answer me these two questions... Playoff ratings up or down from the past few years, this year? yes, and think about that for a moment. playoff ratings were up this year because people enjoy watching teams that usually have no shot at winning it all--teams that haven't won titles in 50 or 100 years--seriously compete for a pennant or WS title. on the other hand, people DON'T like to watch a couple teams that happen to compete for the title every single year. parity is an excellent thing for pro sports. surely everyone would agree that a salary cap could only increase parity in baseball. Considering it was A Relatively new Expansion team in The World Series in 01, Two new comers to the series in 02 PLUS, An Al Championship game that featured One of Bud Selig's least faviorate teams and YET the ratings were STILL down. I kind of feel Parity had nothing to do with it, Fact of the matter is fans want good baseball which these playoffs gave us, ARod is going to make The Yankee's better which only makes the post season games better because their not guaranteed anything, hell even some NY writers don't see them winning. Oh and no one has yet to step forward and try to defend cheap owners and their stance that their the ones we should feel bad for.
February 15, 200422 yr oh, and baseball is by no means a success. every season baseball has humongous operating losses in the hundreds of millions of dollars. payrolls are huge and the sport is dying because of it. many, many teams don't even have a shot to compete during the regular season because they simply cannot afford the players that some big-spending competitors. that makes losses even greater and increases the rift between the good and the bad. without a cap, baseball runs on an unbelievably bad economic model. annual losses aren't going to just go away. eventually it won't be able to continue like this.
February 15, 200422 yr look a salary cap alone will not fix baseball. what is needed is true revenue sharing..... put in every team's monies from television contracts, merchandising, etc... allow the home team to keep a higher %, but allow all teams to get a piece of the pie. then you institute a miminmum salary floor to go along with this revenue sharing. then you let the teams play.
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