David1

If they can fit a great new Twin's ballpark on 8 acres, why then can't they fit a great new Marlins ballpark on 9-10 acres? http://news.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/t...=2&a=290495 It looks like it can be done!

Is that the site ( or sites) that MLB put a down payment on or something?

How can that be if gobuck just said: The old site does not include arena land as far as I know.

So what is the old downtown site that you are talking about?

Can you direct me to an exact posting in your blog? I am very interested in this. I mean, are they now heading the retro route?

How do you know that? Have you seen any other models that are being considered? Just wondering. Thanks

They may use the same design if they decide to put it at the OB this time, again. http://www.brendtoconnell.com/Marlins.html

I would say it is news because the last time it was mentioned publicly was as part of the old deal, which as we all know fell through. So far no one publicly has mentioned anything about the Marlins having to change their name as part of the new deal. So recently I decided to e-mail the Miami mayor to ask him if changing the name to the Miami Marlins will be part of the new deal. His response was, "Absolutely." Thus, my reason for saying that the new deal will, in fact, contain the requirement for the Marlins to change their name to the Miami Marlins. Hopefully I will not have to post anymore on this thread. ;-)

Afterall, they're the FLORIDA Marlins, not the Miami Marlins; moving them to downtown area would make it tougher for me as an Orlando Marlins fan to follow and pop down for a game or two than it already is. I have it from a very good source that part of the deal will include the Marlins having to change their name to the Miami Marlins. So I guess you are not going to like that very much. Hey, if its any consolation to you, at least that will fulfill the "prophecy" from Back to the Future. :cool

Gobuck, what was that compromise? permanent dome or a roof-ready building?

Lets not forget that the Miami Arena was cheap too.

I hope you guys are right. And you guys do make very good points. Where the hell would they be moved to anyway??? Second, MLB would probably pressure Loria to sell to someone who has deeper pockets who can close the financial gap for the ballpark. This is my hope!!

IMO, I think the Marlins will announce that they will be seeking relocation after the season is over. I mean, why won't they make any public statements that they are still commited to South Florida and to finding a way to build the ballpark? I e-mailed David Samson asking him if a deal for a new ballpark was dead. I asked him if he thought there was any hope that this thing could get done. He could not even answer that. His response was: we will have public statements after the season. Thanks for your e-mail. I mean, if this thing wasn't dead and there was still hope why wouldn't he just say so? I think it is because there is no hope so they are just waiting until after the season is over to announce that they want to leave. I really hope I am wrong.

IMO, I think the Marlins will announce that they will be seeking relocation after the season is over. I mean, why won't they make any public statements that they are still commited to South Florida and to finding a way to build the ballpark? I e-mailed David Samson asking him if a deal for a new ballpark was dead. I asked him if he thought there was any hope that this thing could get done. He could not even answer that. His response was: we will have public statements after the season. Thanks for your e-mail. I mean, if this thing wasn't dead and there was still hope why wouldn't he just say so? I think it is because there is no hope so they are just waiting until after the season is over to announce that they want to leave. I really hope I am wrong.

BTW, the Fish have said they could put up another $10-15 million in an equity payment. The Marlins are also advising Dade County to increase the rent amount to close the gap. 951915[/snapback] Is this something new or somehing that was already put on the table a while ago? Btw, the City of Miami has said they are willing to pay for the election if Dade holds the election on 2005. So this may incline the county commision to allow the 2005 election to go forward, I hope.

No, but it would be very nice for a ballpark instead of having it all the way in suburbia.

As for the view, from the right field concourses at Dolphins Stadium you can see downtown Miami's skyline. On Friday Night is was very pretty lit up. I should have taken a picture for you guys. But it is at a great distance and very small compared to an OB view.

But it says that funding issues on the Dolphins site would be similar to the OB or worse because it will lack the contribution from the city. If this is the case, this will stay at the OB because of the city of Miami contribution and to maintain that nice view of downtown especially for national TV.

Why don't you think the OB site will be in the future? Which site do you think will be in the future? 951824[/snapback] ok, forget it. You answered the question. But doesn't Wayne own that land surrounding Dolphins stadium?

Why don't you think the OB site will be in the future? Which site do you think will be in the future?

Loria is committing more ownership funds than almost any owner ever has for a stadium (almost $200 Million). Yeah, but very little of it or none of it is upfront. That is the problem. The 200 million is being paid from revenues from the ballpark over 40 years.

June 9th is not a real deadline.

He added that an alternative may be to "reduce the cost and scope of the project." Awesome! We can have Miami Arena II all over again. Don't these politicians ever learn?

Do you people realize that an Aquarium is not $30 million? Cutting the project $30 million is a lot.? What I am scared of is another Miami Arena being built, that 10 years down the road "its not good enough". 769612[/snapback] I am afraid of that too! I have already e-mailed Manny Diaz and wrote my concerns over this ballpark being scaled down, cutting corners, done on the cheap and ending up with a Miami Arena II on our hands all over again. His response was that he would continue to fight for the Marlins to stay and to "play in a first-class stadium." Nonetheless, more of us have to e-mail him with our concerns over this thing becoming a Miami Arena II. The Marlins need a ballpark that the team, fans and city can really be proud of. A place they can play for the next 40 years. A ballpark that will be one of the best in MLB. So e-mail the mayor your concerns and suggestions over the new ballpark. Tell him it better not be another Miami Arena debacle. This thing, if built, better be one of the best in MLB. E-mail him at: ManuelDiaz@ci.miami.fl.us Believe me when I say that he does read the e-mails.

Who won control of the construction project? It better be the Marlins. These crooked politicians would milk Loria dry with bloated contracts awarded to their 'friends'. 677395[/snapback] I would not worry about that at all. The Marlins have always said that they MUST control the construction so I am sure that will be part of the final deal on paper.