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  1. I saw him and a few assistant coaches walk past me a couple of days ago. He was wearing that red sweater and all. I'm sure he was at my school (st. thomas aquinas high school) recruiting our safety, Major Wright. pretty neat. I meant to say, "hey, coach!" or "Go Gators!!"...but nothing came out. Urban Meyer has also been to our school a couple of times ( i didn't see him, though) and I saw UMass people recruiting our punter, Mickey Groody. I've seen him close to 50 times on campus. Not once was he wearing the sweater-vest. He always usually wears a full suit. Not calling you a liar, but the sweater thing is a gameday tradition he usually/never does unless it's a game day.
  2. I turned it off after the second five minute ovation and about the 7th mention of "freedom." I can't get through these things anymore. They really need to put an end to that clapping bulls***. What's the point? "WE'RE GREAT! STAND UP AND CLAP, YA'LL!" "What every terrorist fears most is human freedom." "We will continue to speak out for the cause of freedom in places like Cuba, Belarus, and Burma -- and continue to awaken the conscience of the world to save the people of Darfur." "[subway hero Wesley Autrey] says: "We got guys and girls overseas dying for us to have our freedoms. We have got to show each other some love." Those are the only three sentences in which the "freedom" was mentioned, and the first was better than half-way through the speech. I agree that the interruptions for applause, and worse yet the media counts of the number interruptions for style points, are annoying. But regardless of your feeling about the person in office and your predeposition to be annoyed, you owe it to yourself to pay attention. If you want to read the text without the applause breaks (however is does indication where the breaks were), you can read it here. No I don't owe them anything. He's never done anything he's promised in his presidential addresses. Where's all the environmental help he says he's going to address? How's come we aren't going to the moon? This President is a joke. Plus, the NHL skills competition was on (Rick Nash on the puck handling competition and then going on to win turned me on Bush; I'd probably vote for Nash over Bush at this point). NHL Skills Competition>Worst and Most Unqualified President in US History I didn't say you owed "them" anything, but rather that you owed it to yourself. How can you hold them accountable if you don't know what's going on, said, promised? That is your privilege and responsibility. Buckeye's Responsibility>NHL Skills Competition Responsibilty to what? I watched five minutes, same old bulls***. Too bad I've watched all the other State of the Union Promises. There's only so many unkept promises I can take. Face it, it's walking into a room to lay out a plan that he can't possibly accomplish. I watched the last three and he didn't even come close to meeting the goals he set. So, what happened to our troops being home at the end of the year like he said last year? I read the transcript, watched the Daily Show for laffs at Bush's expense. 'Nuff said. I know enough to know they can't possibly accomplish what he wants to accomplish and WHY AREN'T WE AT THE MOON LIKE HE SAID WE WOULD BE!? So, answer me, what did you get out of the speech? I dare you to make a checklist of his promises, and check off each one he accomplishes. I'll bet you get to check off MAYBE one, and it's the promise of more troops to Iraq.
  3. 1. Little Miss Sunshine was a horrible movie, no idea how that made Best Picture 2. greengrass did a fantastic job in United 93, he should win best director 3. Will Smith should win best actor, lead role...pursuit of happiness was very good. just my thoughts.. Wow. Hates Little Miss Sunshine and yet loves the hokey Pursuit of Happiness. Not surprised.
  4. The books don't have any to little characterization. It was a faithful rendering of those. But, I wouldn't consider myself a fan of those movies either, but it's more personal taste than anything else. I understand why people like, I just don't.
  5. I turned it off after the second five minute ovation and about the 7th mention of "freedom." I can't get through these things anymore. They really need to put an end to that clapping bulls***. What's the point? "WE'RE GREAT! STAND UP AND CLAP, YA'LL!" "What every terrorist fears most is human freedom." "We will continue to speak out for the cause of freedom in places like Cuba, Belarus, and Burma -- and continue to awaken the conscience of the world to save the people of Darfur." "[subway hero Wesley Autrey] says: "We got guys and girls overseas dying for us to have our freedoms. We have got to show each other some love." Those are the only three sentences in which the "freedom" was mentioned, and the first was better than half-way through the speech. I agree that the interruptions for applause, and worse yet the media counts of the number interruptions for style points, are annoying. But regardless of your feeling about the person in office and your predeposition to be annoyed, you owe it to yourself to pay attention. If you want to read the text without the applause breaks (however is does indication where the breaks were), you can read it here. No I don't owe them anything. He's never done anything he's promised in his presidential addresses. Where's all the environmental help he says he's going to address? How's come we aren't going to the moon? This President is a joke. Plus, the NHL skills competition was on (Rick Nash on the puck handling competition and then going on to win turned me on Bush; I'd probably vote for Nash over Bush at this point). NHL Skills Competition>Worst and Most Unqualified President in US History
  6. The fact that less than 10 movies ever really get recognized at the Oscars is ridiculous. I used to follow this in High School, but got off a long time ago. The Oscars only ever represent or recognize certain types of films and ignore many other high quality works. Meanwhile the same people who recognize these great works of genius continue to greenlight projects like I'll Always Knew What You Did Last Summer, Basic Instinct 2, Admin the Cable Guy: Health Inspector and BloodRayne.
  7. Yeah, great speech and let's see if he actually follows through with what he says like he didn't the last couple of addresses. Whatever happened to going back to moon, anyways?
  8. Jim Webb is about to deliver the response. That's awesome. Talk about the SOTU here. JIM WEBB PWNS ALL. I LOVE THIS MAN What'd he say? I turned it off after the second five minute ovation and about the 7th mention of "freedom." I can't get through these things anymore. They really need to put an end to that clapping bulls***. What's the point? "WE'RE GREAT! STAND UP AND CLAP, YA'LL!"
  9. The best thing I heard was this morning on Mike and Mike in the Morning, not that it's any kind of cultural barometer, when Mike Greenberg read the plot of Babel over the radio and then said, "I'd rather ghost-write T.O.'s book than see this."
  10. I'll go on record and say this, the way Dallas is going it's going to continue to stay a mediocre franchise looking at it's illustrious past. Jerry Jones gets in the way of their success and you CANNOT win, or continue to do so, in this day and age when you build your team from free agency more than waiting for your own talent to get better. The only problem I have with this statement is that you make it sound like the Cowboys are a hopeless franchise in the same season they made the playoffs. I think the talent they have now combined with one or two pieces and some experience makes the Cowboys SB contenders next year. With leatherface chasing Parcells out of Dodge, that doesn't seem very likely anymore. More over, if through some act of God the Cowboys DO win the SB next year, it won't be because of the new coach... In a conference when an 8-8 season could have gotten you in the playoffs that means absolutely nothing. Face it, the NFC has been down for a little while. Except for the Bears and the Saints nobody really did anything spectacular. Two good teams made it, while the rest were pretty mediocre. And for the Cowboys a down year constitutes not making AT THE LEAST a conference championship. Essentially, they suck. If they're going to make the Superbowl and get past the Bears or Saints they have to get A LOT better and play 4 quarters of football and not 1 and a half or whatever they play down there. They went 9-7 and lost to division rival Philly twice, the sucky Giants, and DETROIT. Yes, that Detroit. Man, the Cowboys are sweet.
  11. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN...MPLATE=home.htm Now Al Davis has really lost his mind. The NFL is a big step-up from offensive coordinator at USC. I'm still waiting for the day he'll name his dog as coach. That may very well happen next year. *YAWN* That's not that bad of a hire. I mean, they did skip a couple of steps, but stranger things have happened. Raiders are so bad I don't feel the need to even kick them when they're down.
  12. Buckeye

    Minimum Wage

    Absolutely federal minimum wage needs to be raised! When I saw Jim Webb speak, he mentioned that a generation ago, the average CEO made 40x what an entry level employee made in any given company. The ratio today is nearly 400:1. The "haves" constantly give themselves raises in the thousands (both in Congress and throughout the corporate world) while a blue collar employee, the backbone of America, get raises of 25-50 cents an hour yearly. The gap between white/blue collar is astounding and absurd. if you make 5:15 or 7:50 you are a "have not" with respect to the minimum wage debate it is a bit of a red herring at the risk of drawing the wrath of some most people do not make minimum wage those that do generally speaking are young adults first job and seniors to supplement income . If you are 30-35 years old and making minimum wage you are failure somewhere along the way you screwed up whether it be lack of education, lack of obtaining a usefull skill , poor communication skills , character defect whatever the reason you are a failure, and to be honest while some work 40-50hrs a week in most cases minimum wage workers are lazy if they were motivated they wouldnt be making the minimum wage . Working at a minimum wage job is supposed to be a springboard into something else it provides experience , it helps pay for your college books , augments household income , this is wage increase does nothing to address real problems confronting working Americans . How bout student loan relief not just an interest rate reduction that will enable those bettering themselves to acquire wealth and not be shackled down with debt for 10 years , additionally how some real health care relief , I freaking paid 2600 last year for health care and didnt go the doctor once and this year they raised it another 15 bucks every pay check , i would love to be able to deduct that amount from my tax bill . I think Congress needs to come up with ideas that help working Americans as opposed to catering to a niche group of poor people. "minimum wage workers are lazy" Wow. I'm amazed. I've recently set some records for being an uncaring jackass around here, but wow. What about those who work two jobs? Kind of judgmental to say everyone who works minimum wage is a failure. I mean, some people have had bad luck. And sometimes there are holes too deep for one to dig him or herself out of.
  13. Buckeye

    Minimum Wage

    I think a politician's salary should be directly linked to minimum wage. I agree, but they would never go for it and NOBODY has the balls to implement it. That being said, you can't live on minimum wage. Theoretically, you should raise that son of a bitch, drastically, to 8 or 9 dollars. Granted, then you have to do more legislation that doesn't allow our companies to just jump ship and go overseas while leaving our people stranded without jobs, which most of them would do. It'd be nice if companies at least got a decent tax cut out of raising it and staying here, but there's a war on and we need those billions to build bombs. Basically, fundamentally, our system is currently broken. I don't think raising it 50 cents or so really does much. Hell, I made 10 an hour while I was in college and barely got by, can't imagine living on that or, worse yet, LESS than that. Absolutely federal minimum wage needs to be raised! When I saw Jim Webb speak, he mentioned that a generation ago, the average CEO made 40x what an entry level employee made in any given company. The ratio today is nearly 400:1. The "haves" constantly give themselves raises in the thousands (both in Congress and throughout the corporate world) while a blue collar employee, the backbone of America, get raises of 25-50 cents an hour yearly. The gap between white/blue collar is astounding and absurd. The rich get richer and poor get poorer. Never has anything been so true.
  14. I'm glad he got out of there. And I don't blame him for leaving all that bulls***. I'll go on record and say this, the way Dallas is going it's going to continue to stay a mediocre franchise looking at it's illustrious past. Jerry Jones gets in the way of their success and you CANNOT win, or continue to do so, in this day and age when you build your team from free agency more than waiting for your own talent to get better. Part of me wishes Jimmy Johnson would come out of retirement and coach this team so I could laugh at all the hoopla, see these Cowboys fans get excited and then turn on him at the first sign of adversity, all the while getting similar results to Parcells.
  15. I already got my pre-sale ticket for $200. I'm mad psyched for Bjork, but I don't know much about Rage. Someone tell me where to begin, to see if I like them. Listen to Audioslave and replace the guy singing with a guy talking/screaming over those same beats while talking about psuedo-politics and you've pretty much got it nailed. This is good for Rage fans, maybe. But, I much prefer Chris Cornell to De La Rocha. Are you serious? RATM is 10 times better than audioslave. I hope audioslave breaks up and RATM returns. That's your opinion. I happen to think, like De La Rocha's singing, it sucks. I really like the Audioslave lineup better than the RATM. Plus, they don't keep as much of that hoighty-toighty front that they're a political movement as well as a band up. I thought Rage got too preachy and Audioslave adds in some cheesy rock elements I happent to like. But, whatever, apples and oranges. I think the Roots and Bjork do more for me in that lineup than anything else.
  16. I already got my pre-sale ticket for $200. I'm mad psyched for Bjork, but I don't know much about Rage. Someone tell me where to begin, to see if I like them. Listen to Audioslave and replace the guy singing with a guy talking/screaming over those same beats while talking about psuedo-politics and you've pretty much got it nailed. This is good for Rage fans, maybe. But, I much prefer Chris Cornell to De La Rocha.
  17. I just think its funny. Any intelligent professor can tell if something is really plagerised anyway. Then again thats big schools for you, do the professors even read every paper in a 100+ member class? Well, actually there are around 20 in my English class. We are not taught by a professor but by an instructor. Usually a grad student, sometimes an adjunct professor. Professors typically teach higher level classes and conduct research. man in all my college experience, i never had any class taught by a TA. Those classes cant nearly be as rewarding with them teaching, no matter how good they are. I agree to some extent, however... I've had classes tought by people with Masters and no doctorate and classes taught by doctors... Masters>doctorate I don't know why it is, but once you get your doctorate you can't f***ing relate to an undergrad on any level. This doesn't mean I never had the occasional good Dr. teaching the classes, but I'd take the folks with just the Masters degree over them any day. ya except a lot of TA's are working toward their masters still.... Yuh, I know.
  18. I just think its funny. Any intelligent professor can tell if something is really plagerised anyway. Then again thats big schools for you, do the professors even read every paper in a 100+ member class? Well, actually there are around 20 in my English class. We are not taught by a professor but by an instructor. Usually a grad student, sometimes an adjunct professor. Professors typically teach higher level classes and conduct research. man in all my college experience, i never had any class taught by a TA. Those classes cant nearly be as rewarding with them teaching, no matter how good they are. I agree to some extent, however... I've had classes tought by people with Masters and no doctorate and classes taught by doctors... Masters>doctorate I don't know why it is, but once you get your doctorate you can't f***ing relate to an undergrad on any level. This doesn't mean I never had the occasional good Dr. teaching the classes, but I'd take the folks with just the Masters degree over them any day.
  19. You can't really blame the Chinese for using intimidation techniques to send not-so-subtle clues to their enemies, because we do the same thing. I just can't personally wait for the "sky is falling"/"Chinese are coming"/"It's raining missiles!" hoopla to follow.
  20. So, just to be clear: 1. Stupid people don't deserve to live. 2. You have no sympathy at all for this woman, her widowed husband, and her motherless children--and neither should anyone else. These are both correct? You're right. However, there should be extenuating circumstances to at least one of those statements. There's an addendum to 1. I'm not advocating that stupid people should be exterminated. They have the freedom to be stupid and that's fine. But, when they die as a result of their stupidity, why should I care? Better yet, why do YOU care, so vehemently? You don't know this woman. She wasn't scammed into doing this. 1. Stupid people who die as a result of their own actions get what they deserve. 2. I have no sympathy for her kids or husband. Sucks to be them. Hope it doesn't happen to me. But, I cannot empathize. As for other people, I don't give a sh*t if they care. I wonder why. But, if they do, that's their business. People watch American Idol. Doesn't mean I have to. Those are both correct as I feel right now. Could change in a day. I just don't feel much empathy in this case, sorry.
  21. Sorry I don't think stupid people deserve to live. If you don't know that drinking all that water would kill you, I could personally care less. If it's fascist, f*** it, it's fascist. Bitch deserved to die for being a moron. The world won't miss her. Too bad she wasn't smarter, then maybe her kids would have someone to take care of them. Granted, she strikes me as the type not to tell her kids that if their friends jumped off cliffs then they should not jump off cliffs. Dude, you've left me speechless. Are you having a bad day or something? This entire paragraph is sad. Why should I care about someone who didn't know when they were about to die? She drank less than a gallon and died anyways. Clearly she was concieved with a weak sperm anyways. It's natural. It happens. I don't know this moron, why should I feel any remorse for someone who did it to themself? I feel the same way about people who commit suicide.
  22. Devil is in the details. If proper warnings were not made prior to the contest, it's absolutely the radio show's fault. If proper warnings were made and ignored by the contestants, then it's a little tougher call, as in did the contest directly cause the death, or did the woman's own relucance to use the restroom play a role. See, this is such a dangerous and anti-American stance (meaning it's American as can be in this ridiculous-litigious age we live in) it's not even funny. She has the freedom and the will to stop drinking. How did the radio station make her do anything? How are they at fault when she's the idiot who could have stopped? I don't think warnings should be made before every single activity. Drinking and not driving, fine, a warning. But, if the radio station told the people to drive somewhere and pick up the tickets and that woman just HAPPENS to drive off the cliff, that's like holding the radio station accountable for telling her to get in a car. This is evolution, sorry. One less moron. That's my stance. It's hardly evolution, what you're saying is downright fascist. If one person is harmed by another's suggestion, someone has to be held accountable. If warnings are not given or ignored, someone needs to be held accountable. There's nothing un-American about that. You're analogy is laughable. Of course someone driving is under their own control, that is not an issue where the station would be held accountable, and I guarantee you any case seeking damage would be thrown out. What's at issue here is that someone staged an event that was to be supervised. Clearly the supervisors provided substandard care. As I said, if the woman died after the contest because she foolishly refused to use the restroom, then it's her fault. If she died during the contest because she wasn't properly warned that refusing to use the bathroom could result in serious injury or death, or she died after the contest because the station did not provide a restroom, then it's clearly the stations fault. That analogy is laughable? Huh. Guess the radio station forced it down her throat and she had to drink it to get the Wii for her poor disenfranchised kids. Real shame. I think it's laughable that we should have to treat everyone as if their in kindergarten and hold their hands in everything. No more Supersized fries because of this crap. Etc., etc. Sorry I don't think stupid people deserve to live. If you don't know that drinking all that water would kill you, I could personally care less. If it's fascist, f*** it, it's fascist. Bitch deserved to die for being a moron. The world won't miss her. Too bad she wasn't smarter, then maybe her kids would have someone to take care of them. Granted, she strikes me as the type not to tell her kids that if their friends jumped off cliffs then they should not jump off cliffs. I just wish we had a water drinking contest on here and TSwift was a participant at this point. That would rock, hard! Yay intelligent debate. I guess just keep wishing death on those more articulate, reasonable or smarter than you. You're far from either. But, it's okay, keep thinking that. Ad hominem with an ad hominem response. So articulate.
  23. Devil is in the details. If proper warnings were not made prior to the contest, it's absolutely the radio show's fault. If proper warnings were made and ignored by the contestants, then it's a little tougher call, as in did the contest directly cause the death, or did the woman's own relucance to use the restroom play a role. See, this is such a dangerous and anti-American stance (meaning it's American as can be in this ridiculous-litigious age we live in) it's not even funny. She has the freedom and the will to stop drinking. How did the radio station make her do anything? How are they at fault when she's the idiot who could have stopped? I don't think warnings should be made before every single activity. Drinking and not driving, fine, a warning. But, if the radio station told the people to drive somewhere and pick up the tickets and that woman just HAPPENS to drive off the cliff, that's like holding the radio station accountable for telling her to get in a car. This is evolution, sorry. One less moron. That's my stance. It's hardly evolution, what you're saying is downright fascist. If one person is harmed by another's suggestion, someone has to be held accountable. If warnings are not given or ignored, someone needs to be held accountable. There's nothing un-American about that. You're analogy is laughable. Of course someone driving is under their own control, that is not an issue where the station would be held accountable, and I guarantee you any case seeking damage would be thrown out. What's at issue here is that someone staged an event that was to be supervised. Clearly the supervisors provided substandard care. As I said, if the woman died after the contest because she foolishly refused to use the restroom, then it's her fault. If she died during the contest because she wasn't properly warned that refusing to use the bathroom could result in serious injury or death, or she died after the contest because the station did not provide a restroom, then it's clearly the stations fault. That analogy is laughable? Huh. Guess the radio station forced it down her throat and she had to drink it to get the Wii for her poor disenfranchised kids. Real shame. I think it's laughable that we should have to treat everyone as if their in kindergarten and hold their hands in everything. No more Supersized fries because of this crap. Etc., etc. Sorry I don't think stupid people deserve to live. If you don't know that drinking all that water would kill you, I could personally care less. If it's fascist, f*** it, it's fascist. Bitch deserved to die for being a moron. The world won't miss her. Too bad she wasn't smarter, then maybe her kids would have someone to take care of them. Granted, she strikes me as the type not to tell her kids that if their friends jumped off cliffs then they should not jump off cliffs. I just wish we had a water drinking contest on here and TSwift was a participant at this point. That would rock, hard!
  24. I wasn't aware of how close to extinction the Florida Panthers actually were, until I read this: The Penguins? Panthers have bigger problems By Damien Cox Special to ESPN.com Archive SUNRISE, Fla. -- For those with an appetite for NHL history, there are teams that were once linked by their beginnings in the league and always will be. For starters, there's the Original Six, and never mind that they weren't, in actuality, the NHL's first six clubs. They were joined in 1967 by six new brethren, four of whom still exist in the cities in which they began. In 1970, Vancouver and Buffalo were added, and while there hasn't been much shared history since, the Canucks and Sabres always will share birthdays. Four World Hockey Association teams -- Edmonton, Hartford, Quebec and Winnipeg -- merged with the NHL in 1979. Three of them eventually became Stanley Cup champions (after some significant geographical movement, of course). In 1992, Tampa Bay and Ottawa were the recipients of arguably the league's most flawed expansion effort, and it remains a modern miracle that both franchises survived. One year later, as the NHL hurriedly tried to establish a North American "footprint" by recklessly adding too many teams too fast, the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim and the Florida Panthers were born. The Ducks and Panthers were supposed to be different, very different. Disney had been brought into the NHL family with the Anaheim squad, while Blockbuster boss Wayne Huizenga was to elevate hockey in the Sunshine State to a spectacular new level. Fourteen years later, neither Disney nor Huizenga is anywhere to be seen on the NHL landscape, and both the Ducks and Panthers still are struggling for acceptance. The Ducks have been significantly more successful in recent years. They made it all the way to Game 7 of the 2003 Stanley Cup finals before losing to New Jersey and have been a very strong franchise over the past two seasons after dumping the "Mighty" part of their name last year. Then, there's the Panthers. They have taken, over the course of their existence, a rather circuitous route that essentially has landed them in the very same place. Or perhaps even worse. A 3-2 overtime loss to divisional rival Carolina on Tuesday night before a pathetic audience of 10,317, a game that was the 1,000th in team history but wasn't celebrated in any visible way at the Bank Atlantic Center, dropped the Panthers to 14th place in the Eastern Conference. A sixth consecutive non-playoff season is apparently in progress. All the hustle and bustle of the offseason, one that included the departure of the team's signature star, goalie Roberto Luongo, and the acquisition of disgraced forward Todd Bertuzzi from Vancouver, ultimately has amounted to nothing. This is, arguably, the NHL's weakest link, a team that was once very popular playing out of the bandbox Miami Arena when a hail of plastic rats meant the home team had scored but now lives in virtual seclusion somewhere near, but not too near, Fort Lauderdale. Consider the plight of Finnish-born center Olli Jokinen, who outshone Sidney Crosby in a recent Panthers victory over the Pittsburgh Penguins with a hat trick. Jokinen is the team's best and most appealing player, but he won't be in Dallas next week representing the Eastern Conference. "It's pretty tough to get voted in if you're in South Florida," lamented Jokinen to The Miami Herald. "A lot of guys, if they don't have a satellite dish, they don't see our games." This wasn't supposed to be the way it would turn out for Huizenga's hockey team, which initially made a meteoric ascent up the standings and looked like it would be far more successful than Tampa's Lightning. Within three years of being born, the Panthers were in the Stanley Cup finals under GM Bryan Murray and coach Doug MacLean, losing in four straight to Patrick Roy and the Colorado Avalanche while making a big splash in the hockey world. What people forget, of course, is that the next season began with the team's going unbeaten in 17 games. Then, it was as though time stopped for the Panthers, who gradually fell into near anonymity in the hypercompetitive world of South Florida professional and college sports. Pavel Bure was here for a time, scoring 58 and 59 goals in separate seasons without attracting legions of new customers. Celebrated shinny wanderer Mike Keenan, the NHL's answer to Admin Brown, was hired not once but twice. Losing has remained a constant since the team last reached the postseason, in 2000, and has continued this season despite a team that, on paper, now appears to have an attractive mix of talented young players and savvy veterans. But it clearly has turned out to be less than the sum of its parts. With 17 wins, the Panthers appear to be going nowhere for specific reasons: They are the NHL's worst road team with only five victories away from home. In 25 road games, the Panthers have scored only 58 goals, while in 23 home starts, they've potted 79. Despite being led by Jacques Martin, considered one of the league's more conservative and better defensive coaches, the Panthers rank 24th in team defense. Here's the real kicker. The overtime loss to the Hurricanes on Tuesday meant the Panthers fell to 0-10 this season in games decided either in OT (0-4) or shootouts (0-6), the only squad without a victory in extra time this season. Eight of those defeats have come at the hands of conference rivals, eight additional points that, if acquired, would have made a big difference to the Panthers' season. In shootouts, Martin's crew has scored only three times on 26 attempts, while goalies Ed Belfour and Alex Auld have been fooled 11 times on 26 shots. The team's low point this season might have come last week in Raleigh, N.C., where the Hurricanes exploded for six third-period goals to come from behind and beat the Panthers in a humiliating end. Afterward, Jokinen fumed that some of his teammates seemed "afraid to win and quit playing" and "were nervous to go out on the ice," comments with which Martin, oddly enough, concurred. To be sure, there are circumstances behind the Panthers' season. Keenan, the team's general manager, abruptly left on Sept. 3 after swinging the Bertuzzi-Luongo deal and a making a variety of other moves, including signing free-agent defenseman Ruslan Salei. As has often been the case with Iron Mike, whether he quit or was fired remains a debating point. Martin added the GM portfolio to his job description despite never having done anything but coach at the NHL level. Hard-rock left winger Gary Roberts asked for a trade back to Toronto to accommodate family requirements, but ultimately was forced to stay put. His best friend, center Joe Nieuwendyk, likewise was supposed to be one who would help lead younger players Jay Bouwmeester, Nathan Horton and Stephen Weiss. But Nieuwendyk was forced into retirement by chronic back problems on Dec. 6. Bertuzzi, the player who was supposed to supply goals and brawn in his new hockey life far from the scene of his infamous attack on Colorado's Steve Moore three years ago, had scored only one goal and played in only seven games before undergoing back surgery Nov. 2. He has resumed skating over the past week, and might attempt to resume practicing later this month with an eye toward playing in February. Still, the Panthers seemingly would have enough talent to remain competitive. But while their expansion twin in Anaheim has soared to the top of the Western Conference, the Panthers seem stuck in neutral, their Miami heyday a lifetime ago. There is already speculation the Panthers will be dumping bodies before the Feb. 27 trade deadline, and even the name of Bouwmeester, the club's lone All-Star representative, has surfaced. The Penguins' uncertain future has attracted most of the attention this season in terms of teams on rocky ground, but the Panthers, under owner Alan Cohen, are probably worse off. The fan base has dwindled, and there is no Sidney Crosby or Alexander Ovechkin to serve as a sexy marquee attraction to make anyone want to watch the Panthers. The sport seems to have no roots here despite the efforts of the Panthers' alumni association to provide grants to promising local players. Meanwhile, in Tampa, they are celebrating a local boys team that recently went to Canada and won a prestigious minor hockey tournament. One wonders how long the Panthers can survive as an athletic afterthought in a state that has celebrated a World Series champion, an NBA champion and is currently home to the reigning NCAA men's basketball and Division I football champions. Oh, yes, and the Lightning won a Stanley Cup in 2004. South Florida, it's fair to say, once loomed as hockey's new frontier. Now, it seems more like hockey's hinterland.
  25. "Yeah, we're aware of that," replied a DJ. "They signed releases so we're not responsible, okay?" If true, there is no wrongdoing. Don't be a moron. I can't believe people would take the position of the moron in this instance. But, nothing surprises me around here anymore.
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