Make your decision, support your answer.

 

And to some of you girls, don't say Pavano because he's cuter.

 

And to some of you idiots, don't say Penny because he's the bestest.

 

SUPPORT YOUR ANSWER.

I chose Carl, because he's cuter. :thumbup

Penny.

 

He's younger and he really has matured. He's been greater than Pavano his whole career, too. Penny has finally turned into the pitcher the Marlins thought he could be. A major league ace.

^j/k^

 

It's really a toss up.

 

Both are extremely good.

 

damn... I go with Penny because his stuff is nastier. And he's much improved from last year. He's been very consistent all season long so far... and I think he will only get better from here. Plus he's much younger, so he has more room to improve. What a little confidence can do huh?

I would go with Penny right now...Both are pretty even right now though. Come back in a month and I'll know the answer lol

Rather than "deserving it", who will be most likely to assist Jack in securing the home field advantage for the fish in the WS?

That's a great way to put it. :thumbup

penny. he has the better numbers.

 

 

but why not both

That's a tough one, but I voted 4 Pavs because he's been coming on stronger than Brad of late, and he's been through a lot of bad stuff so it would be a bigger deal for him and his confidence.

 

He's also stopped a couple of losing streaks.

 

One should make it.

Penny

the records are almost identicle but Penny has a much better era

Although the 5 starting pitchers on the NL all star team should be as follows:

Clemens

Wilson

Schmidt

Zambrano

Glavine

I choose Penny just cause to me he's the better of the two....

 

I love what pavy is doing...i just cant figure out how he does it...sure he's good with location and control ... but still his pitches just dont convince me.

 

Great job to both...Penny gets my nod.

oh and btw penny causes he's the bestest :blink:

I say Penny because of his past record, because he was such a big part of our world series championship, because he has worked so hard to improve and most of all because he deserves it. I also think Pavs has been very good, and I would like to see them both go. You know they are pretty good buddies.

tough call right now. I'm starting to lean toward Pavvie lately, but before his last 2 starts Penny was flat out spectacular, so I'll give him the nod.

Where is the option for both?

it would be unanimous then, mikesgirl...ya gotta pick one

I think both have equal chances too, but I pick Penny. He was great last year and continues to be great...

i feel ya lina...but one could say the same for Pavz. Just playin the devil's advocate, but Pavs led our team in quality starts and IP (and wins?) last year.

 

Penny stepped it up though at the end of last season. He seriously could have gotten WS MVP as well. Especially since he sucked in the playoffs until then.

i feel ya lina...but one could say the same for Pavz. Just playin the devil's advocate, but Pavs led our team in quality starts and IP (and wins?) last year.

 

Penny stepped it up though at the end of last season. He seriously could have gotten WS MVP as well. Especially since he sucked in the playoffs until then.

The MVP loss to Beckett is what pisses me off. He should have at least shared that trophy with Josh. Plus, I like Penny more than Pavano and Beckett, these two are major dicks, while Penny looks to be more down to earth... I want him to get a piece of the glory he deserves.

you think pavz and beckett are dicks because they got the ladies, right?

 

 

i think Beckett is badass...mostly because he has that property in Texas for deer-hunting. He reminds me of Clemens (who I also like)...but he actually plays for the good guys.

 

I do like Penny a lot though. I remember a few years ago on the ESPN.com boards, everyone was saying how Penny had a bad attitude, and didnt care about sucking on the mound. Obviously that just isnt intelligence speaking. But, I've always been a fan of him, and I'm definitely glad he's finally pitching the way he can.

Its tough but Pavano has been consistant all year and Penny has struggled his last 2 appearances, and struggled badly not just two or three runs. Penny does also deserve it but Carl has been consistant also.

you think pavz and beckett are dicks because they got the ladies, right?

Ladies aside. Pavano IS a Dick and you well damm know Beckett is a cocky a**hole as well. It works on the mound to be a dick though it doesn't make me like them as people. :thumbup

i never really thought of Pavano as a dick...Beckett's a cocky SOB...which I like (when he's on our team...kinda like how I'm a fan of Spurrier).

Pavano. He never gets any respect, for the most part even from the fans of his own team, and he is quite possibly the most underrated pitcher in the major leagues.

 

I would also venture to say that right now Carl is pitching better than Penny is. Penny has been amazing, yes, but when Carl pitches the bullpen shuts down. We have absolutely no need for one, maybe Benitez for a pitch or three. That is invaluable. He's putting up solid K to BB numbers again this season like he always does, will finish around if not over 200 innings, and has a shot at 17 or 18 wins if the team shows up for him.

 

Honestly, both deserve it, but if I give it to one I give it to Carl.

Pavano is pitching better than anyone on our team right now, with lesser stuff when compared to Penny, Beckett and Burnett

 

Attitude and approach is sometimes more important than talent.

Penny

 

I think he desereves to get some more regonition after Beckett respectfully so, took it all up during the WS.

 

Could go either way tho.

 

Penny Stat Lines: 2.62 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 6-3 record, 64k's, 79 IP.

 

Pavano Stat Lines: 3.10 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 6-2 record, 48k's, 87 IP.