Posted June 29, 200420 yr CF- Pierre 2B- Castillo 1B- Choi 3B- Lowell RF- Cabrera LF- Conine P- Willis SS- Gonzalez C- Treanor Victory is assured with this lineup
June 29, 200420 yr But we'll probably see: Pierre Cabrera Lowell Conine Easley Redmond Castillo Gonzalez Willis
June 29, 200420 yr :thumbup You never know! :thumbup :lol I hope to see Treanor in the lineup tonight! But I hate to loose Red! :confused
June 29, 200420 yr Because Red is on fire right ummm.... not really I just think he's kinda a good hitter
June 29, 200420 yr I don't know Because he leads the team in walks and OBP Because he can hit the ball out almost any at bat Because he is one of our better hitters with RISP Because he's the man
June 29, 200420 yr I don't know Because he leads the team in walks and OBP Because he can hit the ball out almost any at bat Because he is one of our better hitters with RISP Because he's the man Have you forgotten the fact he cant hit pitches inside. He cant hit pitches from people that throw with there left hand. He is not the answer. Get over Choi. The manager that has over 50 years of baseball experience and a world series ring knows that Choi cant hit in certain situations. I will take his opinion over yours Juanky.
June 29, 200420 yr Whenever Choi bats, I always see the catcher set up a target inside on the hands or outside. When it's outside, Choi reaches for it, and misses. When it's on the inside, Choi swings late, or misses. Alot of times pitchers miss when pitching to these two spots, and thats why he walks a lot.
June 29, 200420 yr Choi is solid - a very good hitter in the making. But I dont think he is best suited for #3. Part of the reason he is hitting so well is because of where he is currently hitting in the lineup. I think we should give Cabrera the night off and put Aguila in the OF. Conine in RF, maybe?
June 29, 200420 yr Not only is Choi a badass at bat, but Easley is painful to watch at first. I prefer Choi 100X more than Easley at first. Choi >>>>>>>>> Easley
June 29, 200420 yr I'm one of the few here who doesn't really like Choi all that much, so I have to say that between Choi and Easley it's a pick your poison, and I really don't care. I think that Castillo needs to go back to batting second, someone other than Cabrera needs to bat third. Other than that, grab a bowl of alphabet soup and make a lineup.
June 29, 200420 yr TSwift, you have gone nuts, that is all I can say. Choi is by far better at 1B than Easely. There is no wash there. That said, we wont win consistently until we get back to small ball philosophy on offense. AND our pitching - starters included (only Pavs has been consistent) - gets more consistent. Penny has been horrible of late; is a thrower and not a pitcher. Until I see this lineup: JP Castillo Conine Lowell Cabs Choi Agon Red/Treanor P we will be in for some struggles on offense.
June 29, 200420 yr TSwift, you have gone nuts, that is all I can say. Choi is by far better at 1B than Easely. There is no wash there. That said, we wont win consistently until we get back to small ball philosophy on offense. AND our pitching - starters included (only Pavs has been consistent) - gets more consistent. Penny has been horrible of late; is a thrower and not a pitcher. Until I see this lineup: JP Castillo Conine Lowell Cabs Choi Agon Red/Treanor P we will be in for some struggles on offense. Nuts? My man, Choi has put up decent numbers, but he's on pace to strike out 130 times, which isn't exactly good (Lowell, for all his struggles is on pace for 77). Not to mention that Choi really isn't the longball threat we all think him to be. Can he hit it far...yes, does he do it often...no. Since Choi's torrid April, he has hit 4 homeruns in two months. Hell, you take Montreal out of the equation and he doesn't even have double digits in home runs. Look, Choi hit 9 home runs in April, good for him, but I'd think with the manic "what have you done for me lately" nature of this board people would have taken notice. We're calling for Conine's head, yet over May and June he's hit an equal number of home runs as Choi, significantly out RBI'd Choi (15 for Choi 21 for Conine), and hit for a higher average (Choi batted .244, Conine .264). Choi ain't all that great in my eyes. He may be one day, but we're talking about right now.
June 29, 200420 yr ...AND Choi struck out more times in May than Conine did in May and June combined. 27 K's in May for Chop Chop Choi, Over May and June, Conine struck out 22 times.
June 29, 200420 yr Choi is built to be a cleanup hitter. Cabrera was built to bat third. Talk about a bright future.
June 29, 200420 yr My man, Choi has put up decent numbers, but he's on pace to strike out 130 times So what? If his OBP is good, I don't see whare how an out comes really matters a whole lot. A long fly might score someone, but GIDP might kill a rally too - a K is kinda a neutral middle ground, but one with value too since the kid works the count well. The more pitches you cause a pitcher to throw, the earlier that starter gets burned up. It takes a minimum of 3 pitches to K, only one to GIDP "So what?" Let me ask you this, you're managing the Phillies, it's October 2nd, the Marlins have runners on second and third and it's the 7th inning, you're up by one and it's the "defining moment" of the game. Conine's up, but Choi's on deck. For the sake of argument, they've simply gone on with their projected numbers, no massive tears, no huge slumps...who do you pitch to? Now, Admin Bowa would go on to find some creative way to over manange and blow the game, but common sense says that when you need that big no damage out you go after the guy who strikes out a lot, because a ball not put in play is a ball your fielder can't boot. A K is hardly a "neutral" out, it does the same amount of damage to a team, without even giving the opposition a chance to screw up. I'd let a guy bat .240 if he's going to hit the ball all over the place, if he makes the other team's job even easier by striking out and STILL bats .240...man, I have some problems with that.
June 29, 200420 yr I don't care what needs to be done or who needs to be put in. Something has got to give our offense a spark and something has got to give these starting pitchers a wake up call. When Pavano is the only starter that gives you a good chance to win every time and for a starting five that supposed to be the best in the majors.....then SOMETHING needs to be done. :mad :
June 29, 200420 yr Choi is built to be a cleanup hitter. Cabrera was built to bat third. Talk about a bright future. Indeed. And right now Choi is progressing. But, Cabrera is not. Someday (soon, I hope) Cabs will be a doubles machine with very respectable HR's. Right now he is a K or infield dribbler. I watch him and... it's like there's no fire.
June 29, 200420 yr Funny, Miguel has K'd 75 (leading the team by 16), and his OBP is nearly 30 points lower than Hee Seop's. Don't see anyone jumping on him. Some other notes OPS: Choi- .905 Cabrera- .879 RISP: Choi- .234/.377/.596 Cabrera- .223/.306/.394 So, where's the logic?
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