July 31, 200422 yr Trade nunez and 2 prospects to get Livan back to the marlins we know what he can do as we have seen the last 2 times we played against him and we know what he can do in the playoffs also he has a couple of years left in his contact so he would be back next year trade for Livan!!!!!!! I Love You Miami
July 31, 200422 yr Some people need to chill out.Is not the end of the world. Dr.Williams can hook you guys up with some good stuff from his private stash.
July 31, 200422 yr chill out shaq man beinfest is going to work some more of his pimp daddy managing skillz and get us the pieces sit back and relax and watch the marlins pwn all 485294[/snapback] i really hope so. but it really has to be noted that this is the same statistically-impaired group that gave the NL central to the astros after they acquired pettitte and clemens. 485299[/snapback] Yeah..they played that by the stats and you're going by stats to say that our acquisitions suck. 485302[/snapback] my point was, the bbtn guys didnt look at the astros offseason acquisitions by the stats. looking at their offseason by the stats, anyone could have realized the astros wouldn't have been great this season. whatever, i'm glad they approve of the trade, and i'll be ecstatic if beinfest looks like a genius while i look like a fool two months from now
July 31, 200422 yr LOL they dont even know who starts on our team...it doesnt even occur to them we have one lefty in the entire lineup and that enc would essentially be taking choi's place. i'd give a lot more credit to the opinion of a local reporter who is actually familiar with the team...frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about. 485282[/snapback] did we not win the title last year without a lefty bat?? mmmm pwned??? 485297[/snapback] Pudge>Lo Duca Lee>Conine Enc Last year> Enc this year and our starting pitching is worse. but I guess as long as our bullpen doesn't suck anymore that's all that matters. 485304[/snapback] i love how u neglect the fact to mention Cabs> any LF last year and how is our SP worse? we get AJ back,pavano is tearing it up,beckett will pick it up and willis is basically the same as he was last year? how are we worse?
July 31, 200422 yr uh we also had derrek lee and pudge rodriguez, who, if you didnt know, is one of the best righthanded hitters in the game at going the other way. a righty who can go the other way as well as him is as good as a lefty. 485303[/snapback] wasnt everyone on the Dee Lee sucks and isnt clutch wagon? i sure wasnt. but ppl dont realize what they had till its gone. 485307[/snapback] *cough cough* http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...ndpost&p=452884 :thumbup
July 31, 200422 yr Yawn. Wasn't Gammons an idiot a few hours ago? Wasn't Brantley a mean-spirited punk a few days ago?
July 31, 200422 yr i didnt say u dont like lee im saying ppl 4 get easily what they have till its gone. ppl here threw lee out like garbage and now miss him. maybe not u but many ppl.
July 31, 200422 yr i didnt say u dont like lee im saying ppl 4 get easily what they have till its gone. ppl here threw lee out like garbage and now miss him. maybe not u but many ppl. 485332[/snapback] A lot of people didn't miss lee because CHoi was a more than adequate replacement. I think now we'll really realize how important Lee and Choi were to this team.
July 31, 200422 yr Choi + Penny > Lo Duca + Motto + Encarnacion. Getting rid of Encarnacion after last season was addition by subtraction. He is awful. Bullpen is better Lineup is a wash Rotation is worse. How is this trade good?
July 31, 200422 yr Choi + Penny > Lo Duca + Motto + Encarnacion. Getting rid of Encarnacion after last season was addition by subtraction. He is awful. Bullpen is better Lineup is a wash Rotation is worse. How is this trade good? 485344[/snapback] That's what I'm saying, we're in the same position we were yesterday, and now without Choi, Penny and Murphy. We still need a bat, and now we need a starter instead of a reliever.
July 31, 200422 yr frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about. 485282[/snapback] Yeah, because guys who cover baseball AS THEIR JOB have no clue what they're talking about. Come on.
July 31, 200422 yr frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about. 485282[/snapback] Yeah, because guys who cover baseball AS THEIR JOB have no clue what they're talking about. Come on. 485357[/snapback] the other sentences qualified the statement. they aren't familiar with our team or our lineup, and they aren't particularly stat savvy (see: astros taking the NL central).
July 31, 200422 yr The BBTN guys have no idea who Hee Seop Choi is when they should. If they knew anything about him they'd realize that he's already a productive player in this league, and has the potential to be a prolific home run hitter.
July 31, 200422 yr The BBTN guys have no idea who Hee Seop Choi is when they should. If they knew anything about him they'd realize that he's already a productive player in this league, and has the potential to be a prolific home run hitter. 485371[/snapback] not to mention the fact that he makes $310k and isn't arbitration eligible until 2007. you don't trade that away for a "wash" offensively. but i'm sure the bbtn guys knew all that.
July 31, 200422 yr Author everyone is overreacting for one reason no 5th starter we lack a 5th starter and everyone is freaking out beinfest knows this and he knows we dont have anyone inside the organization to fill the role (because he has tried with beckett) he will fix this if you make a trade that he just made to bring in the top set up man in the NL (arguably) and bring in a great catcher (intangibles as well) then you know we want to win it, this management wont wait around, we will fix this problem
July 31, 200422 yr if we dont get a 5th starter...then I'll be pissed. 485387[/snapback] Agreed, even the waiver wire should have good pickups this year.
July 31, 200422 yr Author Nah, most are overacting because Choi is better than LoDuca AND Encarnacion. 485390[/snapback] choi will be greater than lo duca and encarnacion, he isnt now right now he strikes out or walks thats it, he doesnt drive in runs, completely fails in the clutch, choi will NOT hit 25 HRs this year if you werent romantically attached to him you would see this Conine's experience alone is more valuable to us at this point, Conine > Choi Mota = HUGE improvement in the bullpen Encarnacion is solid defense, but should be able to match Conine's first half production....looks like he might be traded anyways Lo Duca > whatever the f*** we have at catcher (defensively and offensively) point is we upgrade at LF, C and RP with a group of 4 number 2 starters we dont need a lights out 5th to be honest, i dont think Penny was going to have a great 2nd half anyways, we shall see
July 31, 200422 yr LOL they dont even know who starts on our team...it doesnt even occur to them we have one lefty in the entire lineup and that enc would essentially be taking choi's place. i'd give a lot more credit to the opinion of a local reporter who is actually familiar with the team...frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about. 485282[/snapback] Luis is a switch hitter that hits left handed the majority of the time, don't count him out.
July 31, 200422 yr Thing is we didn't need Choi as much as LoDuca right now. Red is looking like he is going to drop dead on the field at anytime.
July 31, 200422 yr LOL they dont even know who starts on our team...it doesnt even occur to them we have one lefty in the entire lineup and that enc would essentially be taking choi's place. i'd give a lot more credit to the opinion of a local reporter who is actually familiar with the team...frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about. 485282[/snapback] did we not win the title last year without a lefty bat?? mmmm pwned??? 485297[/snapback] Pudge>Lo Duca Lee>Conine Enc Last year> Enc this year and our starting pitching is worse. but I guess as long as our bullpen doesn't suck anymore that's all that matters. 485304[/snapback] Pudge > Redmond Lee > Choi Encarnacion last year > Conine this year So what's the point? Are we trying to become 2004 champs or just be a better team than in 2003?
July 31, 200422 yr Thing is we didn't need Choi as much as LoDuca right now. Red is looking like he is going to drop dead on the field at anytime. 485464[/snapback] Come on, Cape. We would have been better off with Penny, Choi and some combination of Redmond/Treanor/Willingham than this.
July 31, 200422 yr Thing is we didn't need Choi as much as LoDuca right now. Red is looking like he is going to drop dead on the field at anytime. 485464[/snapback] Come on, Cape. We would have been better off with Penny, Choi and some combination of Redmond/Treanor/Willingham than this. 485493[/snapback] I don't think so. I know we usually agree, but I think this trade, after some consideration, will be beneficial.
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