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BBTN looks at the LA FLA trade

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Trade nunez and 2 prospects to get Livan back to the marlins we know what he can do as we have seen the last 2 times we played against him and we know what he can do in the playoffs also he has a couple of years left in his contact so he would be back next year

 

 

trade for Livan!!!!!!! I Love You Miami

Some people need to chill out.Is not the end of the world.

 

Dr.Williams can hook you guys up with some good stuff from his private stash.

chill out shaq man

 

beinfest is going to work some more of his pimp daddy managing skillz and get us the pieces

 

sit back and relax and watch the marlins pwn all

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i really hope so.

 

but it really has to be noted that this is the same statistically-impaired group that gave the NL central to the astros after they acquired pettitte and clemens.

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Yeah..they played that by the stats and you're going by stats to say that our acquisitions suck.

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my point was, the bbtn guys didnt look at the astros offseason acquisitions by the stats.

 

looking at their offseason by the stats, anyone could have realized the astros wouldn't have been great this season.

 

whatever, i'm glad they approve of the trade, and i'll be ecstatic if beinfest looks like a genius while i look like a fool two months from now

LOL

 

they dont even know who starts on our team...it doesnt even occur to them we have one lefty in the entire lineup and that enc would essentially be taking choi's place.

 

i'd give a lot more credit to the opinion of a local reporter who is actually familiar with the team...frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about.

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did we not win the title last year without a lefty bat?? mmmm pwned???

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Pudge>Lo Duca

Lee>Conine

Enc Last year> Enc this year

 

and our starting pitching is worse.

 

but I guess as long as our bullpen doesn't suck anymore that's all that matters.

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i love how u neglect the fact to mention Cabs> any LF last year and how is our SP worse? we get AJ back,pavano is tearing it up,beckett will pick it up and willis is basically the same as he was last year? how are we worse?

uh we also had derrek lee and pudge rodriguez, who, if you didnt know, is one of the best righthanded hitters in the game at going the other way.

 

a righty who can go the other way as well as him is as good as a lefty.

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wasnt everyone on the Dee Lee sucks and isnt clutch wagon? i sure wasnt. but ppl dont realize what they had till its gone.

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*cough cough*

 

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...ndpost&p=452884

 

:thumbup

Yawn.

 

Wasn't Gammons an idiot a few hours ago?

Wasn't Brantley a mean-spirited punk a few days ago?

i didnt say u dont like lee im saying ppl 4 get easily what they have till its gone. ppl here threw lee out like garbage and now miss him. maybe not u but many ppl.

i didnt say u dont like lee im saying ppl 4 get easily what they have till its gone. ppl here threw lee out like garbage and now miss him. maybe not u but many ppl.

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A lot of people didn't miss lee because CHoi was a more than adequate replacement. I think now we'll really realize how important Lee and Choi were to this team.

Choi + Penny > Lo Duca + Motto + Encarnacion.

 

Getting rid of Encarnacion after last season was addition by subtraction. He is awful.

 

Bullpen is better

Lineup is a wash

Rotation is worse.

 

How is this trade good?

Choi + Penny > Lo Duca + Motto + Encarnacion.

 

Getting rid of Encarnacion after last season was addition by subtraction. He is awful.

 

Bullpen is better

Lineup is a wash

Rotation is worse.

 

How is this trade good?

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That's what I'm saying, we're in the same position we were yesterday, and now without Choi, Penny and Murphy. We still need a bat, and now we need a starter instead of a reliever.

frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about.

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Yeah, because guys who cover baseball AS THEIR JOB have no clue what they're talking about. Come on.

frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about.

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Yeah, because guys who cover baseball AS THEIR JOB have no clue what they're talking about. Come on.

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the other sentences qualified the statement.

 

they aren't familiar with our team or our lineup, and they aren't particularly stat savvy (see: astros taking the NL central).

The BBTN guys have no idea who Hee Seop Choi is when they should. If they knew anything about him they'd realize that he's already a productive player in this league, and has the potential to be a prolific home run hitter.

The BBTN guys have no idea who Hee Seop Choi is when they should. If they knew anything about him they'd realize that he's already a productive player in this league, and has the potential to be a prolific home run hitter.

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not to mention the fact that he makes $310k and isn't arbitration eligible until 2007.

 

you don't trade that away for a "wash" offensively.

 

but i'm sure the bbtn guys knew all that.

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everyone is overreacting for one reason

 

no 5th starter

 

we lack a 5th starter and everyone is freaking out

 

beinfest knows this and he knows we dont have anyone inside the organization to fill the role (because he has tried with beckett)

 

he will fix this

 

if you make a trade that he just made to bring in the top set up man in the NL (arguably) and bring in a great catcher (intangibles as well) then you know we want to win it, this management wont wait around, we will fix this problem

if we dont get a 5th starter...then I'll be pissed.

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Agreed, even the waiver wire should have good pickups this year.

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Nah, most are overacting because Choi is better than LoDuca AND Encarnacion.

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choi will be greater than lo duca and encarnacion, he isnt now

 

right now he strikes out or walks thats it, he doesnt drive in runs, completely fails in the clutch, choi will NOT hit 25 HRs this year

 

if you werent romantically attached to him you would see this

 

Conine's experience alone is more valuable to us at this point, Conine > Choi

 

Mota = HUGE improvement in the bullpen

 

Encarnacion is solid defense, but should be able to match Conine's first half production....looks like he might be traded anyways

 

Lo Duca > whatever the f*** we have at catcher (defensively and offensively)

 

point is we upgrade at LF, C and RP

 

with a group of 4 number 2 starters we dont need a lights out 5th

 

to be honest, i dont think Penny was going to have a great 2nd half anyways, we shall see

LOL

 

they dont even know who starts on our team...it doesnt even occur to them we have one lefty in the entire lineup and that enc would essentially be taking choi's place.

 

i'd give a lot more credit to the opinion of a local reporter who is actually familiar with the team...frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about.

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Luis is a switch hitter that hits left handed the majority of the time, don't count him out.

Thing is we didn't need Choi as much as LoDuca right now. Red is looking like he is going to drop dead on the field at anytime.

LOL

 

they dont even know who starts on our team...it doesnt even occur to them we have one lefty in the entire lineup and that enc would essentially be taking choi's place.

 

i'd give a lot more credit to the opinion of a local reporter who is actually familiar with the team...frankly, these guys don't have a clue what they're talking about.

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did we not win the title last year without a lefty bat?? mmmm pwned???

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Pudge>Lo Duca

Lee>Conine

Enc Last year> Enc this year

 

and our starting pitching is worse.

 

but I guess as long as our bullpen doesn't suck anymore that's all that matters.

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Pudge > Redmond

Lee > Choi

Encarnacion last year > Conine this year

 

So what's the point? Are we trying to become 2004 champs or just be a better team than in 2003?

Thing is we didn't need Choi as much as LoDuca right now. Red is looking like he is going to drop dead on the field at anytime.

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Come on, Cape. We would have been better off with Penny, Choi and some combination of Redmond/Treanor/Willingham than this.

Thing is we didn't need Choi as much as LoDuca right now. Red is looking like he is going to drop dead on the field at anytime.

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Come on, Cape. We would have been better off with Penny, Choi and some combination of Redmond/Treanor/Willingham than this.

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I don't think so. I know we usually agree, but I think this trade, after some consideration, will be beneficial.

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