knglover Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 A.j. is as good as gone? I would like to know if you agree or disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 meaning when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 A.j. is as good as gone? I would like to know if you agree or disagree. 853831[/snapback] Marlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I think if anything if he isn't gone by the 31st, it looks like we have no chance of re-signing him this offseason based on the front office's consistant attempts to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 The FO would be stupid not to trade him before the deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I think he's gone. The genius of Beinfest is he can put AJ out there and teams come flocking with packages that are just plain unheard of! Think about it: He got the Dodgers to give up Paul Lo Duca and Guillermo Mota! If he can get a package that is just as unbelievable, helps the team short and long-term, then yeah, it's worth sacrificing having AJ for another two months. We aren't winning many games with him anyway. Boog puts it this way: Do it only if the team after the trade, without AJ, is better than the team before the trade, with AJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Boog puts it this way: Do it only if the team after the trade, without AJ, is better than the team before the trade, with AJ. 854053[/snapback] I agree with Boog too, but the problem as he himself indicates... is that you've got to get an awfully good package back if you're trying to make your team BETTER than it is with Burnett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin2266 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Meanwhile, Penny is 5-5 with a 3.43 ERA, and is a Big Mac away from serious arm trouble. We literally stole Mota & Duca for him. Highway robbery. Same will happen with AJ. He is bull-headed and does-it-his-way. Learn a lesson from the Bryan Harvey mistake - sell high b4 he blows himself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyekrin Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I think AJ is a goner, but personally I am looking forward to see the group of players we will get back for him. Beinfest is a smart man, he knows what he wants and and how to make this team competitive now and in the years ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 is a Big Mac away from serious arm trouble. 854068[/snapback] haha, gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDigital Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I think AJ is a goner, but personally I am looking forward to see the group of players we will get back for him. Beinfest is a smart man, he knows what he wants and and how to make this team competitive now and in the years ahead. 854070[/snapback] very smart man and im very confident he isnt ready to throw the towel in. thats why this trade will be a blockbuster IMHO :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Man Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Meanwhile, Penny is 5-5 with a 3.43 ERA, and is a Big Mac away from serious arm trouble. We literally stole Mota & Duca for him. Highway robbery. Same will happen with AJ. He is bull-headed and does-it-his-way. Learn a lesson from the Bryan Harvey mistake - sell high b4 he blows himself out. 854068[/snapback] Thats such a dick thing to say. Penny was a class act here. No need to say some bs about a big mac away from blowing his arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan24 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Boog puts it this way: Do it only if the team after the trade, without AJ, is better than the team before the trade, with AJ. 854053[/snapback] I agree with Boog too, but the problem as he himself indicates... is that you've got to get an awfully good package back if you're trying to make your team BETTER than it is with Burnett. 854065[/snapback] Absolutely. We lose AJ and we lose a big part of this rotation, but if we can get something major back for him in return and it improve this team then that is the only way you make a trade like this. In Beinfest I trust. :shifty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Meanwhile, Penny is 5-5 with a 3.43 ERA, and is a Big Mac away from serious arm trouble. We literally stole Mota & Duca for him. Highway robbery. Same will happen with AJ. He is bull-headed and does-it-his-way. Learn a lesson from the Bryan Harvey mistake - sell high b4 he blows himself out. 854068[/snapback] Can somebody please explain to me how "5-5 with a 3.43 ERA" is a negative? :bangdesk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Meanwhile, Penny is 5-5 with a 3.43 ERA, and is a Big Mac away from serious arm trouble. We literally stole Mota & Duca for him. Highway robbery. Same will happen with AJ. He is bull-headed and does-it-his-way. Learn a lesson from the Bryan Harvey mistake - sell high b4 he blows himself out. 854068[/snapback] Can somebody please explain to me how "5-5 with a 3.43 ERA" is a negative? :bangdesk 854229[/snapback] I highlighted the part that makes it negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanodemais Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Meanwhile, Penny is 5-5 with a 3.43 ERA, and is a Big Mac away from serious arm trouble. We literally stole Mota & Duca for him. Highway robbery. Same will happen with AJ. He is bull-headed and does-it-his-way. Learn a lesson from the Bryan Harvey mistake - sell high b4 he blows himself out. 854068[/snapback] They actually really like Brad Penny out there in LA. I was listening to dodgers radio there and they blame the team for not giving him run support. Anyway, watching sportscenter at the moment and they have Buster Olney and Kent Rosenthal mentioned AJ about 6 times while going through each league. They said he's a perfect fit for the O's but they are not willing to give up what he is worth; then said that the Yanks, White Sox, and 2 other teams who are interested. Anyway they both also said that the Marlins are CONTENDERS and that we will make a strong push for the Wild Card because apparently the Braves took the division already and the Nats don't exist. Buster said our FO is one of the most agressives and they will make a deal and "shake up" the team. Pleasing to hear really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Meanwhile, Penny is 5-5 with a 3.43 ERA, and is a Big Mac away from serious arm trouble. We literally stole Mota & Duca for him. Highway robbery. Same will happen with AJ. He is bull-headed and does-it-his-way. Learn a lesson from the Bryan Harvey mistake - sell high b4 he blows himself out. 854068[/snapback] Can somebody please explain to me how "5-5 with a 3.43 ERA" is a negative? :bangdesk 854229[/snapback] I highlighted the part that makes it negative. 854233[/snapback] I dont get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Boog puts it this way: Do it only if the team after the trade, without AJ, is better than the team before the trade, with AJ. 854053[/snapback] I agree with Boog too, but the problem as he himself indicates... is that you've got to get an awfully good package back if you're trying to make your team BETTER than it is with Burnett. 854065[/snapback] Define better. This year, next year, both? We're pretty far back in the race, I might just take the chance if it's a solid package and doesn't look too much like we're giving up the season. There's still hope, but not with the current 25 and Burnett represents our better tradable prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Boog puts it this way: Do it only if the team after the trade, without AJ, is better than the team before the trade, with AJ. 854053[/snapback] I agree with Boog too, but the problem as he himself indicates... is that you've got to get an awfully good package back if you're trying to make your team BETTER than it is with Burnett. 854065[/snapback] Define better. This year, next year, both? We're pretty far back in the race, I might just take the chance if it's a solid package and doesn't look too much like we're giving up the season. There's still hope, but not with the current 25 and Burnett represents our better tradable prospects. 854478[/snapback] 4.5 games isnt too far back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I wonder if the FO is thinking how much a guy is worth who could hurt his arm again after he had Tommy John surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 He gone. JUST KIDDING! IT'S FAKE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 He gone. JUST KIDDING! IT'S FAKE! 854523[/snapback] we know dude, we know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Comp picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Comp picks? 854529[/snapback] Yeah sorry. I needed something to do to pass the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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