Stag5 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 The Marlins want center fielder Joey Gathright from the Devil Rays, and would love to expand the deal to include right fielder Jonny Gomes. The teams should be a decent match, given the Marlins' surplus of young pitching. If the Marlins fail to land Gathright, they might simply use Eric Reed in center. Reed surprised team officials by performing better at Triple A last season than he did at Double A. ... Ken Rosenthal Column Anyone for an OF of Hermida, Gathright and Gomes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Why would they trade Gomes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 The Marlins want center fielder Joey Gathright from the Devil Rays, and would love to expand the deal to include right fielder Jonny Gomes. The teams should be a decent match, given the Marlins' surplus of young pitching. If the Marlins fail to land Gathright, they might simply use Eric Reed in center. Reed surprised team officials by performing better at Triple A last season than he did at Double A. ... Ken Rosenthal Column Anyone for an OF of Hermida, Gathright and Gomes? :o Gathright Willingham Gomes Cabrera Hermida Jacobs 2B Ramirez :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinivedivichi Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Why would we trade Olsen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 now we're talkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 me say yummy! Olsen and Gaby for Gomes and Gathright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 me say yummy! Olsen and Gaby for Gomes and Gathright? :plain Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 now we're talkin starting to not suck as much... Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright basically we are trading olsen and petit for gomes and gathright thrown in...i'd rather not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 now we're talkin starting to not suck as much... Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright basically we are trading olsen and petit for gomes and gathright thrown in...i'd rather not. If the Marlins were willin to give up Olsen for Gathright (you have to believe it as it has appeared on several reliable sources), then you're basically adding in Petit for Gomes... Ya I'd do it. I have been against Olsen for Gathright but the more we wait, the more obvious it is that the Fish are willing to do it. So if that's true, maximize the gain and get Gomes for another pitching prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 now we're talkin starting to not suck as much... Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright basically we are trading olsen and petit for gomes and gathright thrown in...i'd rather not. If the Marlins were willin to give up Olsen for Gathright (you have to believe it as it has appeared on several reliable sources), then you're basically adding in Petit for Gomes... Ya I'd do it. I have been against Olsen for Gathright but the more we wait, the more obvious it is that the Fish are willing to do it. So if that's true, maximize the gain and get Gomes for another pitching prospect. You dont like Petit much do ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3Username Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright Again I rather not trade with the Devil Rays. Read the paragraph below the Gathright one. "The Tigers tried to acquire Devil Rays closer Danys Baez before signing free-agent closer Todd Jones to a two-year, $11 million contract. The Rays asked for two top prospects ? right-hander Joel Zumaya and center fielder Curtis Granderson ? and a third minor leaguer. The Tigers would have been more comfortable trading players like center fielder Nook Logan and Double-A right-hander Humberto Sanchez. ... Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright no comment..... :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 ya i would really just let the devil rays continue to suck than to help them out, mainly based to thier own stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright Again I rather not trade with the Devil Rays. Read the paragraph below the Gathright one. "The Tigers tried to acquire Devil Rays closer Danys Baez before signing free-agent closer Todd Jones to a two-year, $11 million contract. The Rays asked for two top prospects ? right-hander Joel Zumaya and center fielder Curtis Granderson ? and a third minor leaguer. The Tigers would have been more comfortable trading players like center fielder Nook Logan and Double-A right-hander Humberto Sanchez. ... Olsen and Petit for for Gomes and Gathright I don't get it...Why did you have two different responses to the same quote? no comment..... :banghead Stop this love affair with Petit. We have a bunch of other guys just like him with as much talent: Johnson, Nolasco, Vargas, Pinto (if his control improves), West, Hernandez, etc.... And then we have guys better than him: Sanchez, Olsen, Willis, Volstad, etc... He is expendable. THe only point I"m making is that if the Fish were going to do Olsen for Gathright, I would certainly add in Petit to get Gomes. No doubt in my mind. But please understand, as Lefty has stressed COUNTLESS times, that I don't want to do Olsen for Gathright. I'm merely saying what would improve the deal should something like that be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierremvp1 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Who(here in SoFla) cares how any potential outfield works out....if everything works out even better than expected....if in 3 or 4 years they're the Portland Sea Otters, or the Las Vegas D Cups then what's the difference? Gaithright could become the next Willie Mays, but what good does that do the SoFla fan if he's munching burritos in San Antonio, or Bar-b-que in NC. The key(for SoFla Fans), is the team staying in town. With the cloud of relocation hanging over the team, who cares. Remove this cloud, and I'll care and I'll be there as often as I was in 1998. That was a great year. I won 2 bags of charcoal when they had that "promotion" of turning in a foul ball for a free bag of charcoal. The Marlins need to make a stadium deal in SoFla.....ASAP to keep what fan base they have in SoFla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3Username Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Gomes # for those who only followed him last year. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/jonny-gomes.shtml Batting Statistics Order Baseball Data Year Team Name League Age Org. Level G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP IBB SH SF DP Avg Obp Slg Ops 2001 Princeton App 20 Tb Rk 62 206 58 60 11 2 16 44 15 4 33 73 .291 .597 2002 Bakersfield Calif 21 Tb A 133 446 102 123 24 9 30 72 15 3 91 173 31 6 0 1 4 .276 .431 .572 1003 2003 Orlando Sou 22 Tb AA 120 442 68 110 28 3 17 56 23 2 53 148 16 1 0 4 5 .249 .348 .441 789 2003 Durham IL 22 Tb AAA 5 19 2 6 2 1 0 1 0 0 2 5 2 0 0 0 0 .316 .435 .526 961 2003 TB Devil Rays AL 22 Tb MLB 8 15 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 1 0 0 0 0 .133 .188 .200 388 2004 Durham IL 23 Tb AAA 114 390 73 100 27 1 26 78 8 5 51 136 22 0 0 7 6 .256 .368 .531 899 2004 TB Devil Rays AL 23 Tb MLB 5 14 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 6 0 0 0 0 0 .071 .133 .071 204 2005 Durham IL 24 Tb AAA 45 162 34 52 13 0 14 46 7 1 30 44 .321 .446 .660 1106 2005 TB Devil Rays AL 24 Tb MLB 101 348 61 98 13 6 21 54 9 5 39 113 14 1 1 5 6 .282 .372 .534 906 MLB Totals: 3 years 114 377 62 101 14 6 21 55 9 5 40 125 15 1 1 5 6 .268 .357 .504 861 Minor League Totals: 5 years 479 1665 337 451 105 16 103 297 68 15 260 579 71 7 0 12 15 .271 --- .539 --- MLB Average: 3 years 161 535 88 143 19 8 29 78 12 7 56 177 21 1 1 7 8 .268 .357 .504 861 His scouting report is basically this: projects as a DH, bad defense OF, long swing, leads to alot of K's, big time power Again I rather not deal with the Rays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 .861 OPS for a 25 year old. Sign me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 You want to get "well" soon? This certainly gets you back to at least being competitive about as quickly as any move I can think of, and at minimum wage. Maybe it's pure BS, who knows, but if Beinfest made this happen we all ought to drive out to PPS and carry the guy around the infield on our shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Gaby for Gomes and Gathright? think that is a little better then giving up Pettit too. I think Gaby has a lower ceiling and not as far along as pettit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Gaby for Gomes and Gathright? think that is a little better then giving up Pettit too. I think Gaby has a lower ceiling and not as far along as pettit. I agree Gaby has a bit lower ceiling, but he could very well turn out better. He's younger and who knows. But honestly, if it took Petit to get the deal done--git r done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Gaby for Gomes and Gathright? think that is a little better then giving up Pettit too. I think Gaby has a lower ceiling and not as far along as pettit. I agree Gaby has a bit lower ceiling, but he could very well turn out better. He's younger and who knows. But honestly, if it took Petit to get the deal done--git r done. I dont see the Marlins trading what arguably was the centerpiece in the Delgado trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Yes pierremvp01, you've said the same thing a billion times before in all sorts of different threads. We get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3Username Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 11. JONNY GOMES, of, Durham Bulls (Devil Rays) Age: 24 Ht: 6-1 Wt: 200 B-T: R-R Drafted/Signed: Devil Rays '01 (18) The biggest reason for Gomes' surge this year was simple: improved recognition on breaking pitches. The Devil Rays sent Gomes to the Mexican Pacific League last offseason so he could get a better handle on breaking stuff, and he responded by winning BA's Winter Player of the Year award. Gomes continued to hit back in the United States, tearing up the International League for two months and proving he belonged in the majors when Tampa Bay finally gave him a chance. He always has possessed the bat speed and power to knock the ball out of any park, though his swing can get long at times. He doesn't offer much in the way of speed or arm strength, and he's rough defensively as a corner outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Gaby for Gomes and Gathright? think that is a little better then giving up Pettit too. I think Gaby has a lower ceiling and not as far along as pettit. I agree Gaby has a bit lower ceiling, but he could very well turn out better. He's younger and who knows. But honestly, if it took Petit to get the deal done--git r done. I dont see the Marlins trading what arguably was the centerpiece in the Delgado trade Ah I hate when players are valued based on who they were dealt for. It's all about pride when you incorporate such tactics. And the centerpiece for the Delgado trade wasn't Petit--it was Jacobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3Username Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Olsen and Gaby for Gomes and Gathright? think that is a little better then giving up Pettit too. I think Gaby has a lower ceiling and not as far along as pettit. I agree Gaby has a bit lower ceiling, but he could very well turn out better. He's younger and who knows. But honestly, if it took Petit to get the deal done--git r done. I dont see the Marlins trading what arguably was the centerpiece in the Delgado trade Ah I hate when players are valued based on who they were dealt for. It's all about pride when you incorporate such tactics. And the centerpiece for the Delgado trade wasn't Petit--it was Jacobs. Wrong it was Petit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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