jsprt05 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 If you could blame the 2005 dissapointment on only one person (player, coach, front office guy) who would it be??? Lowell, Pierre, McKeon, Beinfest. anyone else??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I dont know if you could blame just ONE person or thing. If I had to pick it would one it would be the disappearing act of Mike Lowell's bat in the middle of the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 lots of different things, but mostly, I think Jack... his failure to get the most out of what was essentially an all-star team, on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanks1212 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 1A - Lowell 1B - Pierre 2 - Leiter Everyone else is pretty far behind IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Baseball is a team sport. Trying to individualize what occurred over a 162 game season is something only a fool would attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Baseball is a team sport. Trying to individualize what occurred over a 162 game season is something only a fool would attempt. Thank You old wise one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Ricky Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I blame myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Mike Lowell. Jack McKeon for sticking with Mike Lowell. Admin Beinfest for failing to make that "fix 'em up" trade when we were scuffling in June. The middle relief. Al Leiter (I find it hard to blame Leiter because it's not as if there were qualified replacements for his spot in the rotation to start the year, unlike Lowell who could easily have been replaced with Cabrera at third and Conine in left). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinAddict Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Beinfest would be low on my list of those responsible. There wasn't much available in June, or even at the no-waiver deadline in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 All of the above and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Altamonte Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I blame H. Wayne Huizenga anything bad that happens with this team forever will be his fault...THE JACKASS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tealmarlin Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Lowell, Pierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Admin Beinfest for failing to make that "fix 'em up" trade when we were scuffling in June. Well. I guess you didn't hear about Ron Villone??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champkind Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Baseball is a team sport. Trying to individualize what occurred over a 162 game season is something only a fool would attempt. Calling all fools? Then here I go: 1. Mike Lowell- chief culprit. I don't know if I can ever remember any one player falling off that much in one year (year and a 1/2). 2. JP- He did make me fully appreciate the difference between batting average and OBP. So he's got that going for him. Which is nice. 3. Mota- Imagine if he had been able to be our 7th/8th guy like he was for Gagne 4. The Yankees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Baseball is a team sport. Trying to individualize what occurred over a 162 game season is something only a fool would attempt. Playing the fool is so easy and so fun. Blame game Co-MVP's: Guillermo Mota (is he just terrible or did Jack and "Hitch Up Pants" Wiley just bring out the worst in him) Mike Lowell (sad to watch, but the glove makes me still like him and I wish him luck) Juan Pierre (JP would it kill ya to take a base on balls now and again) Al Leiter (great guy, a gamer, but he should write a check to the team for about 4 mil for the pathetic performances he turned in) And lastly, The Marlins as a whole as they dropped both sides of a double header to the girls team known as the Colorado Rockies. :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Life Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 There's no I in TEAM... I blame the entire team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 you can't blame anybody for the woos of 2005, it was always a differ failure. Somebody always messed it up, but if you want to point fingers, point them at Al Lieter, who lost most of the games that could have counted positive towards our record...but you know what, Pierre wasn't getting on base, Lowell's bat disappeared into thin air...guys were not producing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinFan10 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 McKeon. When the team underacheives, you gotta blame the coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 There's no I in TEAM... But there is a "ME"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 There's no I in TEAM... But there is a "ME"! There's also some T & A. :mischief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 There's no I in TEAM... But there is a "ME"! There's also some T & A. :mischief nice. High-five! **slap** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 There's almost an incalcuable number of reasons why the Marlins disappointed in 2004 and 2005, from hurricanes to fillintheblank, but you know, I sit back and look at it all and I don't blame the FO/ownership for cleaning house. Honestly, where was this team going anyways? A race for second or third, another losing effort to sneak into the playoffs through the wildcard, more rainouts and lousy attendance, if you're going to blow up a team, give these guys credit, nobody does it better than the Florida Marlins. So while some among us still feel the need to lay blame on individuals, I'm 100% okay with starting anew comfortable in the knowledge that no matter how badly we feel, Jeffrey Loria feels worse, and that will lead to building a better more competitive team in the future. My Loria comment will no doubt renew misplaced hatred towards our owner, and I know I can't do anything about that. But for those of you who watched him at games, agonizing over every out, regardless of the hate spewed here, I still think he loves this team more than anyone on the face of the earth, and a couple of years from now when we're playing in October, we'll be singing his praises once again. Such is the life of a Marlins fan. Masochists of the world unite ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Like was said before, baseball is a team sport. The only two I don't at least partially blame are Dontrelle and Delgado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Nation Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Lowell's performance basically voided the Delgado acquisition. We needed his 28-30 HR's to put us over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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