On my high-school team, everyone right now is growing a beard to the best of their ability.

 

Why? So we can kick-ass... Chuck Norris style.

 

That's really THE only way to kick ass

Are any of our players even old enough to grow facial hair?

It's good to see Girardi asserting some authority over the young 'ens. Whatever Beckett thought he was doing was dumb.

This is stupid. I think the people who are saying it's no big deal are the ones without facial hair. I grew a goatee when I was 17 and have had it since (I'm 28 now).. For the past 6 months, I've had a beard. It's my choice to have it. It doesn't affect the way I work. They would never even think of asking me to shave at work...

 

And I'll bet the one guy that would have fought this the most last year would have been Carlos Delgado. Much like Greg Vaughn when he joined Cincinnati. These guys have had it for years and they've made it a part of who they are... It's more than just fuzz on your face for a lot of people.

I have facial hair and I despise shaving.

 

Still think it's a good idea.

Lame.

 

They are in the major leagues, not the armed services.

 

As for the people asking if they could grow facial hair, unless they are 15, yes they can.

 

:plain

I agree with Joe Girardi, Im really fed-up with all this ugly Facial hair, Cavemen dont belong in baseball.

I have a goatee and if I was getting paid between 300,000 and a million dollars to play the game of baseball I wouldnt think twice about it. It dosent matter wether i am comfortable with it or not, but it's a business as much as it is a game and you listen to the boss, it's a small price to pay to get an oppertunity very few in the world get to have, to play in the big leagues

This is stupid. I think the people who are saying it's no big deal are the ones without facial hair. I grew a goatee when I was 17 and have had it since (I'm 28 now).. For the past 6 months, I've had a beard. It's my choice to have it. It doesn't affect the way I work. They would never even think of asking me to shave at work...

 

And I'll bet the one guy that would have fought this the most last year would have been Carlos Delgado. Much like Greg Vaughn when he joined Cincinnati. These guys have had it for years and they've made it a part of who they are... It's more than just fuzz on your face for a lot of people.

 

 

 

Get a haircut hippie!

I have a goatee and if I was getting paid between 300,000 and a million dollars to play the game of baseball I wouldnt think twice about it. It dosent matter wether i am comfortable with it or not, but it's a business as much as it is a game and you listen to the boss, it's a small price to pay to get an oppertunity very few in the world get to have, to play in the big leagues

 

 

 

I don't think the question here is whether the players should shave or not. Obviously, they should. They have no choice. And I'm not even saying they should complain. If I was a Marlin, I wouldn't think twice about shaving if that was the team policy. If my manager told me to do it, I'd do it..

 

My point is that I think the policy is stupid. They're baseball players, not salesmen.

I really don't think it has as much to do with facial hair as it is the manager letting everyone know who's in charge and who makes the rules.

 

Sure the Yankee way may be the path Girardi wants to follow but he's simply establishing himself as the (rookie) skipper who will steer the good ship Fish in 2006. Through guidelines for dress and appearance, Girardi is looking for cohesion among a group of strangers who he needs to work together, and quickly, to form the nucleus of a team he can carry forward into 2007 and beyond.

 

While some may disagree with his methods, or specifically with the facial hair issue, my guess is his decision is more symbolic than anything else.

On my high-school team, everyone right now is growing a beard to the best of their ability.

 

Why? So we can kick-ass... Chuck Norris style.

 

That's really THE only way to kick ass

 

Oh, we know...

 

We don't even have to hit. We just use round-a-bout kicks to defeat the opposition.

I really don't think it has as much to do with facial hair as it is the manager letting everyone know who's in charge and who makes the rules.

 

Sure the Yankee way may be the path Girardi wants to follow but he's simply establishing himself as the (rookie) skipper who will steer the good ship Fish in 2006. Through guidelines for dress and appearance, Girardi is looking for cohesion among a group of strangers who he needs to work together, and quickly, to form the nucleus of a team he can carry forward into 2007 and beyond.

 

While some may disagree with his methods, or specifically with the facial hair issue, my guess is his decision is more symbolic than anything else.

 

 

Thank you! Finally somebody gets it.

I really don't think it has as much to do with facial hair as it is the manager letting everyone know who's in charge and who makes the rules.

 

Sure the Yankee way may be the path Girardi wants to follow but he's simply establishing himself as the (rookie) skipper who will steer the good ship Fish in 2006. Through guidelines for dress and appearance, Girardi is looking for cohesion among a group of strangers who he needs to work together, and quickly, to form the nucleus of a team he can carry forward into 2007 and beyond.

 

While some may disagree with his methods, or specifically with the facial hair issue, my guess is his decision is more symbolic than anything else.

 

 

Thank you! Finally somebody gets it.

 

I get that and understand it, but there are other ways of going about that. You don't have to make everyone look the same to send a message.

doesnt that mean vargas has to cut his hair? cuz the article said no shaggy hair...

Ooohrah...........do I have to explain my position. Semper Fi!

It's silly, this whole clean shaven thing. I just hope he can manage. :hat

That's very stupid. How can you tell someone they HAVE to shave? People like their own styles...this is very retarded.

...How can you tell someone they HAVE to shave?

 

Very simple.

 

"You aren't playing tonight."

Whatever, when you're micromanaging your players' appearance you're already reducing the time you can spend on their development. There's no I in team, but there is in winner.

Whatever, when you're micromanaging your players' appearance you're already reducing the time you can spend on their development. There's no I in team, but there is in winner.

 

 

I wouldn't call setting a blanket policy for the whole team "micromanaging".

On my high-school team, everyone right now is growing a beard to the best of their ability.

 

Why? So we can kick-ass... Chuck Norris style.

 

That's really THE only way to kick ass

 

 

To avoid future round house kicks, its MR. Chuck Norris

Whatever, when you're micromanaging your players' appearance you're already reducing the time you can spend on their development. There's no I in team, but there is in winner.

 

 

I wouldn't call setting a blanket policy for the whole team "micromanaging".

How detailed is this policy? Are sideburns allowed? If so, how long can they be? What's the penalty for having them too long? Is five o'clock shadow okay if you shaved that morning, or do you have to shave right before game time? Is Girardi going to line-up the players and inspect them before the game? Who is enforcing this? Is there a department of facial hair code enforcement in the front office now? Is there an appeal process, and how would it work? Does the players' union have any say in punishment (fine vs suspension)? It is micromanaging. There are better things to worry about like, say, hitting and pitching than this.

It just seems like such a stupid thing to crack down on, I've had all kinds of different stuff going on with my hair or with facial hair at various times and like, I can see how in a classroom or office setting if something is extremely over-the-top it could be viewed as excessive, but in the confines of professional sports?

I don't get why building a cohesive ballclub is going to start by telling everyone they have to shave and cut their hair...especially when we've got such a young team and somehow I can't picture chemistry being the downfall of the 2006 Marlins. Egos are going to be pretty scarce when half the roster has never been above AA--most of the players are going to be working hard to prove themselves as legitimate major league players. Though I must admit, I absolutely can't stand the Yankees and the Marlins becoming a small-market clone of them in attitude definitely disturbs me. :confused

Whatever, when you're micromanaging your players' appearance you're already reducing the time you can spend on their development. There's no I in team, but there is in winner.

 

 

I wouldn't call setting a blanket policy for the whole team "micromanaging".

How detailed is this policy? Are sideburns allowed? If so, how long can they be? What's the penalty for having them too long? Is five o'clock shadow okay if you shaved that morning, or do you have to shave right before game time? Is Girardi going to line-up the players and inspect them before the game? Who is enforcing this? Is there a department of facial hair code enforcement in the front office now? Is there an appeal process, and how would it work? Does the players' union have any say in punishment (fine vs suspension)? It is micromanaging. There are better things to worry about like, say, hitting and pitching than this.

 

You are needlessly complicating the issue. It seems pretty clear cut (pun intended). Players show up clean shaven or they are penalized. I am not sure what the punishment is or what exactly Girardi considers clean shaven, but I am sure he laid that out plainly.

 

If every player on the roster had different rules on what facial hair was allowed, that would be micomanaging. When a coach lays down a uniform rule that effects everyone, that is macromanaging.

 

At any rate, like I pointed out in my first post to this thread, I think this is more about creating a disciplined team, and I am all for it. Obviously you disagree or think this will turn out bad for the team, and that is fine. It looks like fans here are pretty evenly divided on the issue, so lets leave it at that.