When the Marlins had fire sale we got/had players to fill in C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, RF and LF so the thing is we never got anyone to fill the CF stop. What did you think the FO plan was? Was Reggie and Aguila the only players who were fighting for the CF or was there someone else?

 

The FO must of had a plan because you would think that they would have gotten a CF instead of ANOTHER pitcher. Was Millegde in their plan and he was "untradeable"?

 

 

 

Discuss. I am curious why we never got a CF in one of the trades.

Reggie emerged and came out of nowhere during Spring Training. Eric Reed was thought to be the projected Center Fielder with his Juan Pierre like speed. It was Eric Reed's job to lose.

Reggie emerged and came out of nowhere during Spring Training. Eric Reed was thought to be the projected Center Fielder with his Juan Pierre like speed. It was Eric Reed's job to lose.

 

 

:confused Well we did upgrade abit.

*still hoping that Granderson deal was never proposed/rejected*

i think the plan was to keep acquiring top pitchers and then trade select ones to fill in those positional holes in the future

i think the plan was to keep acquiring top pitchers and then trade select ones to fill in those positional holes in the future

 

The question is when are we going to fill those holes in? This summer- Fall? Next year? Are we waiting to develop our young talent in the minors before we trade them? I want our players to develop together. When you have a few players on this team who dont belong in the majors it holds the other players back.

i think the plan was to keep acquiring top pitchers and then trade select ones to fill in those positional holes in the future

 

The question is when are we going to fill those holes in? This summer- Fall? Next year? Are we waiting to develop our young talent in the minors before we trade them?

It's very rare to see high profile minor leaguers traded for one another. I still think the Marlins fill that void in CF and catcher with the trading of Dontrelle Willis. If no Train trade, then I would think the Marlins go after some CF this offseason.

If the Marlins trade Willis it is nothing less than their way of saying goodbye to South Florida. There is no compensation that would offset the loss of our major league franchise and so those of you who want to trade Willis, I caution you, be careful what you wish for.

 

This fallacy that seems pervasive here that we are in dire need of catching help is ludicrous. On a team that isn't contending we have bigger fish to fry and problems to solve. Sure it would be great to somehow land the next Pudge Fisk but Olivo's done a good job with the righties and Treanor has handled the two lefties pretty well. Olivo's batting over .300 in the team's last ten games and overall is hitting north of .260.

 

What we need is to have Willingham and Hermida healthy at the same time and fill in the blank as best we can. Once again, playing everyday in Albuquerque, Chris Aguila is batting .361. Not that I think he's the answer but just an observation (and yes I know PCL is considered a hitter's league). I don't think you can keep Abercrombie out there too much longer as each day seems to bring a lower and lower BA and OBP for the guy who so many here actually believe his hype as a five tool player.

 

Everyone and their brother seems to believe Reggie Sanders is on the trading block and I don't know how the front office would feel about spending another $3,000,000 on a team that's not contending, but he's out there. After him, it seems to me our trade choices are limited although the pitching starved D'Rays might part with Hollins for Sanchez (just a thought, not a suggestion). In short we are going to have to work with what we have and hope either Reggie wakes up or Joe becomes much more consistent, and above all Willingham and Hermida stay healthy.

I think it was just a case of getting the most talent we could in each trade, and hoping that would fill our needs as best it could. When you throw a bunch of rookies out there, some of them arent going to cut it, plain and simple. Anyone remember top prospect Todd Dunwoody?

 

I think this year is about evaluating what we have, both in the majors and the upper levels of our minors in terms of the new additions there. We should be in a position to focus more on actual needs next offseason, and we'll have a lot of ammunition in terms of young pitching prospects to do so. Exactly what we do will depend on how much payroll, Willis and Miggy contracts, etc.

 

Our young guys on offense will continue to be very inconsistent, because thats what young players always tend to be. Just enjoy the good days:)

 

Oh and its worth adding that we did have some options like trading for Gathright, but we decided to give the marginal guys we already had like Abercrombie a shot. I think it was the right move, as this way we get to know for sure exactly what we had in the system in the way of older outfielders, and of course the young pitching it would have cost us in a trade has proved very valuable to the club.

At least we will get the 1st overrall pick in next years draft. We need to build this team around Cabrera, Willis, Ramirez, and Hermida.

If the Marlins trade Willis it is nothing less than their way of saying goodbye to South Florida. There is no compensation that would offset the loss of our major league franchise and so those of you who want to trade Willis, I caution you, be careful what you wish for.

 

This fallacy that seems pervasive here that we are in dire need of catching help is ludicrous. On a team that isn't contending we have bigger fish to fry and problems to solve. Sure it would be great to somehow land the next Pudge Fisk but Olivo's done a good job with the righties and Treanor has handled the two lefties pretty well. Olivo's batting over .300 in the team's last ten games and overall is hitting north of .260.

 

I never suggested we needed another catcher(if that was directed at me), but if Dontrelle were to be traded, the main players coming our way would be in the CF/C category. I for one do not have a problem trading Willis if we get the compensation that is being talked about.

 

By the way, here's an idea that hasnt been brought up(I believe). You could always see Hanley move to CF and put Andino at shortstop. IIRC, there was talk of Hanley moving to CF in Boston(because of Renteria), and there are scouts who believe CF is a better option for him.

 

At least we will get the 1st overrall pick in next years draft. We need to build this team around Cabrera, Willis, Ramirez, and Hermida.

 

No we wont.

Can an American League team end up with the 1st overrall pick in next years draft or does it automatically go to the worst team in the National League? Since the Royals had it this year, then I am assuming that a team in the National League will get the 1st overrall pick next year. If that's the case, then why will the Marlins not get the 1st overrall pick in next years draft? The only team that we have to pay attention to is the Pirates. Derrek Lee will be returning to the Cubs soon, the Nationals are the hottest team in baseball right now winning 8 out of their last 9 games, and every team in the NL West is in playoff contention.

Right now the Royals are winning the race for the #1 overall draft pick in 2007. It's always been based on record.

 

I'm not sure what we're going to do about CF. The FO has tried to help out that position by picking up Cody Ross and Joe Borchard for basically nothing. It looks like Ross is a bust, but Borchard has some potential. Abercrombie belongs back in AA, as far as I'm concerned.

Rounding Third you are still missing the totality of trading Dontrelle. Its not as simple as other trades. If he goes the ownership is saying, "we dont care about baseball in SoFLa". Dont forget, they have stated in the past several times that Cabs and Dontrelle are the core of the rebuilding. If Willis goes there will be NO REBUILDING.

 

Like Marlins2003 correctly stated, if Dontrelle goes its bye bye South Florida for the Marlins.

I agree. If the Marlins trade Willis, then that is sending a bad message to the fans. They would probably lose their remaining fan base.

After him, it seems to me our trade choices are limited although the pitching starved D'Rays might part with Hollins for Sanchez (just a thought, not a suggestion). In short we are going to have to work with what we have and hope either Reggie wakes up or Joe becomes much more consistent, and above all Willingham and Hermida stay healthy.

 

 

 

Hollins for Sanchez? Anibel Sanchez? God no...Beinfest would never make such a foolish move.

Anibal Sanchez for Damon Hollins is laughable. Hollins isn't even worth Cody Ross.

First of all I brought up the Hollins/Sanchez thing to make a point.

 

I think most of you missed it.

 

What we have to work with (trade-wise) right now are pitching prospects and they (those prospects) aren't going to bring much in the way of immediate ML help.

 

Hollins was used an example of that. A middling, .250 BA guy who can play the position but isn't going to fundamentally change your team's chance of contending any sooner than what we're doing right now.

Sanchez for Dukes maybe.

Olsen for Gathright maybe.

Olsen for Gathright maybe.

 

 

Kind of a dumb person to change that quote on, considering I am most likely the most blindly loyal person towards and biggest fan of Scotty O on this board.

 

And I wouldnt give up Bostick for Gathright.

I agree. If the Marlins trade Willis, then that is sending a bad message to the fans. They would probably lose their remaining fan base.

 

 

Doubt it. The 8000 or so of us that go to the games are the hard core fan base. I'm seeing basically the same people at the games as I did in '98, '99, and '00. The FO has always said everyone is tradeable given the right situation. I don't see them trading DTrain but it wouldn't bother me if they did and we got alot in return. Come the deadline we are not going to be buyers. We are either going to be sellers or we will be spectators. I believe spectators.

What about Melky Cabrera? The Yankees are gonna need pitching soon and they're probably going to trade for a big name OF'er soon since Sheff and Matsui are out untill September. Would anyone be interested in this and who do you think it would take? I think he would fit in good with the rest of our rookies.

What about Melky Cabrera? The Yankees are gonna need pitching soon and they're probably going to trade for a big name OF'er soon since Sheff and Matsui are out untill September. Would anyone be interested in this and who do you think it would take? I think he would fit in good with the rest of our rookies.

 

It would have to be a 3 team trade because we dont have the veteran pitching the Yankees would want for Cabrera.

I like Melky, but I'd rather not trade for him.