Note: This is not done to absolute scale, but it is close enough.

 

Like I said in an earlier thread, I would put the home plate entrance of the new ballpark at the corner of 16th and 3rd, which I took the liberty of renaming.

 

The roof would open to the leftfield side of the property. The rightfield side would have the window and a small strip of seats. Think Minute Maid Park in reverse, where the outfield upper deck seats, the roof and the jumbo tron are in right and the Crawford boxes and the "window" are in left. This park however, won't have crappy Crawford Boxes. Doing this would allow for views of downtown (primarily is you sit along the 3B side and LF.)

 

Parking is beyond rightfield and under the roof in leftfield. This is not to surround the ballpark with a sea of asphalt which would in the end hamper development of the surrounding area. (See: Dolphin Stadium) The street corner entrance is also how many of the old parks and now the newer parks are being built.

 

On a historical note,with this configuration, home plate would be very close to where home plate was for Miami Field which was torn down in the 1960s. For those who don't know, Miami Field was the first ballpark built in Miami and was the ST of the Dodgers, Giants and Braves for several years. This was before Miami/Bobby Maduro Stadium was built in the late 40s. Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and Jackie Robinson all played there.

 

Last note, I'm not saying this is the best configuration for the ballpark, especially when it comes to spurring development. This is just an idea to give everyone an idea of how things could look.

nice. . . give me a shovel so I can start

I decided to actually plant a stadium in place of the Orange Bowl at as close to the same scale as possible, and discovered it can be done in roughly the same footprint as the OB.

 

I present to you... MARLIN STADIUM.

 

 

 

Also, an unroofed stadium of the dimension of Kauffman Stadium fits nicely too.

Love the Jeff Conine way :lol

I decided to actually plant a stadium in place of the Orange Bowl at as close to the same scale as possible, and discovered it can be done in roughly the same footprint as the OB.

 

I present to you... MARLIN STADIUM.

 

 

 

Also, an unroofed stadium of the dimension of Kauffman Stadium fits nicely too.

That is one sexy ballpark....except it has no skyline view.

What an ugly surrounding area.Thats about as low class as you can get :confused

What an ugly surrounding area.Thats about as low class as you can get :confused

 

Where is the vision? It won't stay that way

I decided to actually plant a stadium in place of the Orange Bowl at as close to the same scale as possible, and discovered it can be done in roughly the same footprint as the OB.

 

I present to you... MARLIN STADIUM.

 

 

 

Also, an unroofed stadium of the dimension of Kauffman Stadium fits nicely too.

That is one sexy ballpark....except it has no skyline view.

So swap the roof so the roof opens to the west instead of the east. This doesn't have to be exactly what it looks like. I'm just demonstrating that a ballpark can fit in the footprint of the OB with little to no parking loss.

 

What an ugly surrounding area.Thats about as low class as you can get :confused

A new stadium will spur urban renewal in Little Havana. I agree with FreshFish. Where's your vision?

Kitchkinet,

Why not remove the front grass area and bring the stadium South a bit (ala Wrigley). Expanding the Parking area, etc,

 

btw, I think that's the way Festa put it originally

What an ugly surrounding area.Thats about as low class as you can get :confused

 

Give me a break. I dare you to name me ONE stadium that is located in a "high class" area! Just one!

 

Look at aerial shots of other stadiums, and you tell me which one of these is in a "high class" neighborhood.

 

 

Chase Field, Phoenix

 

 

Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia

 

 

Minute Maid Park, Houston

 

 

Safeco Field, Seattle

 

 

Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg

 

 

Turner Field, Atlanta

 

 

US Cellular Field, Chicago

 

 

Wrigley Field, Chicago

 

 

Site of new Nationals Ballpark, Washington

 

Compare...

A second try, looking at the field facing downtown and the roof opening from the other side.

 

Third base line can see downtown. First base line can see airplanes approaching MIA. :thumbup

I hope they either extend the metro rail there or have shuttles that go from the vizcaya stop straight to the orange bowl.

BTW, the Cell is another perfect example of the damage the sea of asphalt parking does to future development.

I hope they either extend the metro rail there or have shuttles that go from the vizcaya stop straight to the orange bowl.

 

Vizcaya is not the closest MetroRail station. Back in the day when I went to Dolphins games at the OB, MetroBus would run shuttles from the Civic Center station.

What an ugly surrounding area.Thats about as low class as you can get :confused

The traffic outlets are horrible, I really believe that it is an impossible barrier to overcome..Are they gonna bulldoze Little Havana and surrounding areas?

I hope they either extend the metro rail there or have shuttles that go from the vizcaya stop straight to the orange bowl.

 

Vizcaya is not the closest MetroRail station. Back in the day when I went to Dolphins games at the OB, MetroBus would run shuttles from the Civic Center station.

The Canes play 5 games a year and the Dolphins with exhibitions played 10 games a year...Huge difference from 81 games to be played there by the Marlins. Shuttles would not be an adequaqte response

The Canes play 5 games a year and the Dolphins with exhibitions played 10 games a year...Huge difference from 81 games to be played there by the Marlins. Shuttles would not be an adequaqte response

What in the world are you talking about? The bus service from the station to the stadium was part of the line. Miami-Dade Transit runs buses to the stadium now for baseball games, it's just that nobody uses them. Plus, we're talking about a 36,000 seat stadium, not a 78,000 seat stadium. It's not much to have one bus coordinated with the trains that runs the less than two miles from the Civic Center station to the OB site.

How many people can you fit on a Shuttle Bus? Maybe 50, how many buses do you plan to have running. There must be a reason why people don't use them...

Transit would have no issues doing Park & Ride Rapid Transit Service for events at the Orange Bowl.

 

But it only takes about 8,000 parking spots to have a MLB park properly served.

 

They all don't have to be right on site.

Id like to know how exactly the Marlins/City will Fix and improve the surrounding area.I'm sure Destroying peoples houses isn't an option.

Can we name it "The Ballpark at Marlington"?

 

Id like to know how exactly the Marlins/City will Fix and improve the surrounding area.I'm sure Destroying peoples houses isn't an option.

They never build stadiums in "nice" neighborhoods. No one in a nice house wants to live around that crap.

Transit would have no issues doing Park & Ride Rapid Transit Service for events at the Orange Bowl.

 

But it only takes about 8,000 parking spots to have a MLB park properly served.

 

They all don't have to be right on site.

most people that go to fenway walk a mile or more to get to game...and in boston...that is almost always a never fun walk...unless your sloshed...then its ok

What an ugly surrounding area.Thats about as low class as you can get :confused

 

Give me a break. I dare you to name me ONE stadium that is located in a "high class" area! Just one!

 

Look at aerial shots of other stadiums, and you tell me which one of these is in a "high class" neighborhood.

 

 

Chase Field, Phoenix

 

 

Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia

 

 

Minute Maid Park, Houston

 

 

Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg

 

 

Turner Field, Atlanta

 

 

US Cellular Field, Chicago

 

 

Wrigley Field, Chicago

 

 

Site of new Nationals Ballpark, Washington

 

Compare...

Chase Field is in downtown Phoenix and in what I remember to be a pretty high class are (granted it was probably 7 years ago).

Citizens Bank is in like a metroplex of stadiums. It has the Eagles, Phillies, Sixers/Fliers, and the old home of the Sixers/Fliers. So that's 4 stadiums right next to each other. It's not much of a neighborhood.

Minute Maid is in downtown Houston, and not a place you want to be.

Turner Field is just outside of ATL, and you really don't want to be there.

The Cell is in the ghetto. Lets put it that way.

Wrigley is in a great place, but it's going to be impossible to find a spot like that.

 

What are you guys hoping for? The great things about the new stadiums is they have bars and resturants built into them. You really don't need an area like Wrigleyville.

What an ugly surrounding area.Thats about as low class as you can get :confused

The traffic outlets are horrible, I really believe that it is an impossible barrier to overcome..Are they gonna bulldoze Little Havana and surrounding areas?

The traffic outlets have worked for 75000 people going to football games. Here you are talking about, hopefully, averaging 25-30000. Also, if you have lived in Dade County long enough there are various alternate routes to get in and out of the stadium and not get caught up. If you are nice, maybe I will tell all you non natives or those who only know 95 to the 836 to the 12th ave. exit, many better ways to go.

 

Finally, please, stop with the remarks that sound like, "who wants to go to a place where disgusting people live". Is your judgement of people having "class" because they live in a gated community with multiple car garages and nice yards with landscaping and pools? Maybe because growing up I lived in an area with just apartments and old buildings and only knew my neighbors as good people, that I see these people the same way. Class is not defined by income-it is by values and unless you know that the people living there have no value system, the disparaging remarks are offensive. There are many wealthy people who are really lousy people. And if you go to the OB, there are very few, if any, panhandlers or homeless asking for money, or car protection money etc. That is not the case if you build downtown-although that is not a reason not to build downtown if possible.

That's all.

I've come up with a third idea, this time based on Chase Field.