December 20, 200718 yr Who would you rank Best all around at their position including Defense/Hitting ect.. 1B 2B 3B SS LF RF CF C Just Curious.
December 20, 200718 yr 1B. Pujols 2B. Chase Utley 3B. A-Rod SS. Jimmy Rollins but soon to be Hanley Ramirez LF Manny Ramirez (shaky defense but the hitting more than makes up for it) RF Magglio Ordonez CF Andruw Jones C Joe Mauer
December 20, 200718 yr Author 1B. Pujols 2B. Chase Utley 3B. A-Rod SS. Jimmy Rollins but soon to be Hanley Ramirez LF Manny Ramirez (shaky defense but the hitting more than makes up for it) RF ? CF Andruw Jones C Joe Mauer That is pretty close to what I'd say, Though I think Andruw is falling off the top of the mount at CF.. RF is really a tough one as well. There are a lot of = players, but no real standouts IMHO.
December 20, 200718 yr 1B. Pujols 2B. Chase Utley 3B. A-Rod SS. Jimmy Rollins but soon to be Hanley Ramirez LF Manny Ramirez (shaky defense but the hitting more than makes up for it) RF ? CF Andruw Jones C Joe Mauer That is pretty close to what I'd say, Though I think Andruw is falling off the top of the mount at CF.. RF is really a tough one as well. There are a lot of = players, but no real standouts IMHO. I ended up saying Magglio just to throw out a name
December 20, 200718 yr i know u said "just to throw a name out there" and all, so im not lashing at you...but i would take vladdy's career over maglios "ONE magicial season" anyday. IMO C- Mauer 1b-Pujols 2b-Utley Ss- Hanley (cant pick anyone over a guy whos 1homer shy of history--3rd player with 30hr50sb in a year) 3b-A-Rod Lf-Soriano Cf- Hunter (Griffey if he gets back to old form) Rf- Vladdy
December 20, 200718 yr i know u said "just to throw a name out there" and all, so im not lashing at you...but i would take vladdy's career over maglios "ONE magicial season" anyday. this wasn't Magglio's first .900 OPS season
December 20, 200718 yr 1B. Pujols 2B. Chase Utley 3B. A-Rod SS. Jimmy Rollins but soon to be Hanley Ramirez LF Manny Ramirez (shaky defense but the hitting more than makes up for it) RF ? CF Andruw Jones C Joe Mauer That is pretty close to what I'd say, Though I think Andruw is falling off the top of the mount at CF.. RF is really a tough one as well. There are a lot of = players, but no real standouts IMHO. I ended up saying Magglio just to throw out a name I would say Abreu if he didn't have that power drop.
December 21, 200718 yr i know u said "just to throw a name out there" and all, so im not lashing at you...but i would take vladdy's career over maglios "ONE magicial season" anyday. IMO Vlad totally slipped my mind.
December 21, 200718 yr C Pudge Rodriguez (still the best in my book) 1st Albert Pujols 2nd Chase Utley SS Michael Young (Soon to be Hanley Ramirez) 3rd Alex Rodriguez LF Manny Ramirez CF Ichiro Suzuki RF Vladimir Guerrero DH David Ortiz
December 21, 200718 yr Looking at both offense and defense and also at who is the best for right now, not for their careers and for those with a chance to equal at least what they produced this past season. C-Martinez-Cle 1b-Gonzalez-SD/Youkilis-Bos 2b-Phillips-Cin SS-Tulowitzki-Col 3b-Rodriguez-NYY Lf-Crawford-TB cf-Hunter-LAA Rf-Suzuki-Sea
December 22, 200718 yr 1B Derek Lee (I don't care what anyone says about this!!) 2B Chase Utley 3B David Wright SS Derek Jeter LF Matt Holliday RFVlad Guererro/Ichiro CF Grady Sizemore/Andrew Jones, take your pick? C Joe Mauer
December 22, 200718 yr C- Joe Mauer 1B- Albert Pujols 2B- Chase Utley SS- Hanley Ramirez 3B- Alex Rodriguez LF- Manny Ramirez CF- Ichiro Suzuki RF- Vlad Guerrero
December 22, 200718 yr There are some really dumb names being thrown about. Care to throw some out yourself then?
December 22, 200718 yr There are some really dumb names being thrown about. Care to throw some out yourself then? C: Is probably not Pudge anymore. A case could be made for either V-Mart or Mauer, though neither is a stellar defender. 1B: Gotta be Pujols, though Lee isn't far behind. 2B: Probably gotta go with Utley. His defense isn't great, but he's so much better than anyone with the bat that there's no other choice. SS: Definitely not Rollins. Overrated both offensively and defensively. Possibly Hanley (Much better with the bat than Rollins, almost a wash with the glove), but I'll give it to Tulo for the glove. 3B: Arod (Miguel is not far behind) LF: No real standout defenders (If they were better defenders, they'd be in RF or CF) so you are left choosing between a multitude of stud bats with no glove (Bonds, Manny, Holliday, and to a lesser extent Dunn and Soriano) CF: Gotta be Andruw, despite the one bad season, he's still the best out there. Anyone saying Torii Hunter or Grady Sizemore is a fool. (Hunter's got a good glove, but he's an overrated hitter, Sizemore's a stud at the plate, but he's not much of a fielder) RF: Vlad or Magglio. Neither's got much of a glove, but there's not really anyone else. (If Hermida get's his head on in the field, this will be him in 2 years.)
December 22, 200718 yr C= Mauer (Smart player, defensively and offensively) 1b-Lee (A+++Defender, and he can hit too) 2b- Utley (although I prefer CANO) SS- Tie with Jose Reyes and Derek Jeter (although the best SS in baseball plays *look down*) 3b- Arod, Best hitter in the game, and he isn't too bad at the hot corner. LF- Manny Ramirez CF-Ichiro (5 tool type of guy) RF-Vlad (no brainer DH- Ortiz SP-Peavy or Bedard RP-Zumaya (100mph fastball) CL- Rivera (Still)
December 22, 200718 yr Author There are some really dumb names being thrown about. Care to throw some out yourself then? C: Is probably not Pudge anymore. A case could be made for either V-Mart or Mauer, though neither is a stellar defender. 1B: Gotta be Pujols, though Lee isn't far behind. 2B: Probably gotta go with Utley. His defense isn't great, but he's so much better than anyone with the bat that there's no other choice. SS: Definitely not Rollins. Overrated both offensively and defensively. Possibly Hanley (Much better with the bat than Rollins, almost a wash with the glove), but I'll give it to Tulo for the glove. 3B: Arod (Miguel is not far behind) LF: No real standout defenders (If they were better defenders, they'd be in RF or CF) so you are left choosing between a multitude of stud bats with no glove (Bonds, Manny, Holliday, and to a lesser extent Dunn and Soriano) CF: Gotta be Andruw, despite the one bad season, he's still the best out there. Anyone saying Torii Hunter or Grady Sizemore is a fool. (Hunter's got a good glove, but he's an overrated hitter, Sizemore's a stud at the plate, but he's not much of a fielder) RF: Vlad or Magglio. Neither's got much of a glove, but there's not really anyone else. (If Hermida get's his head on in the field, this will be him in 2 years.) you're Delusional. J-Roll 11 errors. Hanley 24 errors.
December 22, 200718 yr you're Delusional. J-Roll 11 errors. Hanley 24 errors. Errors are the "batting average" of fielding stats.
December 23, 200718 yr Sure. Hanley is also terrible in the field. Rollins is probably middle of the road. I'd still take Hanley's overall game any day over Rollins'. The difference between the two with the bat is much greater than the difference with the glove.
December 23, 200718 yr The Fielding Bible had Rollins at +7 runs last year (9th best in MLB) and Hanley at -37 runs (last in MLB), FWIW. I'd still take Hanley even with that gap. Although for this pointless discussion, I guess Rollins would be the better 'choice'
December 23, 200718 yr The Fielding Bible had Rollins at +7 runs last year (9th best in MLB) and Hanley at -37 runs (last in MLB), FWIW. I'd still take Hanley even with that gap. Although for this pointless discussion, I guess Rollins would be the better 'choice' Give me Tulowitzki or even Jeter over Rollins. Not a fan of any guy who leads the league in outs in a "career year".
December 23, 200718 yr I was just comparing the two. Jeter was second worst in baseball in +/-. I'm giving this zero thought.
December 23, 200718 yr I didn't say I would take Rollins over Ramirez, but you can't say Rollins and Ramirez are a wash with the glove. Last year there was a huge difference, and in 2006 Rollins was still better. And it's not hard to lead the league in outs when you lead the league in ab
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