May 23, 200818 yr ESPN ranks Uggla better then utley based just on stats... RK PLAYER TEAM AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 1 Dan Uggla FLA 164 36 53 17 1 14 32 2 1 21 46 .323 .402 .695 1.097 2 Chase Utley PHI 185 35 58 15 1 14 32 4 0 19 30 .314 .390 .632 1.022 looking just at the numbers uggla has 1 more run, 2 more 2B, same rbi, same hr, higher BA OBP SLG and OPS
May 23, 200818 yr BUT, Utley will surely get the nod in the allstar game. Sucks. :banghead Meh, as long as Uggla stays ahead of him where it counts (division standings) it's ok.
May 23, 200818 yr I'm going to have to check out their fielding numbers. Utley can't be that much better, can he?
May 23, 200818 yr YEAR TEAM POS GP GS INN TC PO A E DP FPCT RF ZR Utley 2008 Phi 2B 48 46 409 244 107 131 6 33 .975 5.24 .824 Uggla 2008 Fla 2B 43 43 379 221 98 118 5 30 .977 5.13 .797 Utley is as better at fielding, as Uggla is at hitting. If that makes any sense?
May 23, 200818 yr Utley is generally ranked as one of the best fielding 2B's, whereas uggla is ranked at best average, and normally below average. going by most defensive statistics... In 2006 Uggla was roughly average In 2007 (loss of Perry Hill and pre-game fielding drills), Uggla was argueably the worst in the majors. This year (woo pre-game fielding drills), so far he's been about imbetween 2006 and 2007, so still below average, but not one of the worst. You also have to remember the different park factors (hitters park v.s. pitchers park) when it comes to comparing offensive stats, so you could still argue that Uggla's been better even with the defensive difference.
May 23, 200818 yr Uggla has been fielding his position well...Yeah Utley has more range but Uggla is fine
May 23, 200818 yr Utley is generally ranked as one of the best fielding 2B's, whereas uggla is ranked at best average, and normally below average. going by most defensive statistics... In 2006 Uggla was roughly average In 2007 (loss of Perry Hill and pre-game fielding drills), Uggla was argueably the worst in the majors. This year (woo pre-game fielding drills), so far he's been about imbetween 2006 and 2007, so still below average, but not one of the worst. You also have to remember the different park factors (hitters park v.s. pitchers park) when it comes to comparing offensive stats, so you could still argue that Uggla's been better even with the defensive difference. From what I've seen, Uggla has been average to slightly above average this year. Not as good as Utley, but pretty good. Also, Utley seems to have been playing slightly worse on D this year.
May 23, 200818 yr AND, 21 less AB's for Uggla in his current streak means a ton, thats like 3 more HR's and 8 more hits on his current pace...
May 23, 200818 yr BUT, Utley will surely get the nod in the allstar game. Sucks. :banghead Uggla will be in the all-star game. The players will vote him in. There's no doubt about that. Very few guys who deserve to go get omitted.
May 23, 200818 yr As I understand it Uggla has a great deal of admiration for Utley, and says so. I also have read or heard that the feeling is mutual from Utley's side.
May 23, 200818 yr You can't not consider Utley the better player. But to have the subject of who's better even debated shows how far Uggla has come this season. He's gone from a power player with obvious flaws who was one of the better 2B in the game to a complete player who's playing as well as anyone in MLB at any position. 162 games is a long season. I'm personally just going to enjoy this ride for as long as it lasts. No one can convince me that Uggla is not a complete badass with many years of great baseball ahead of him. Is he as good as Utley, one of the best 2B in the last 50 years....ofcourse not. But he's pretty fu$king good and he's as hot as any player has been in years. Let's throw the 5yr/30 million at him. How much more could it possibly take to lock him up. His name is Dan F'ing Uggla Bitch! You better recognize.
May 23, 200818 yr You can't not consider Utley the better player. But to have the subject of who's better even debated shows how far Uggla has come this season. He's gone from a power player with obvious flaws who was one of the better 2B in the game to a complete player who's playing as well as anyone in MLB at any position. 162 games is a long season. I'm personally just going to enjoy this ride for as long as it lasts. No one can convince me that Uggla is not a complete badass with many years of great baseball ahead of him. Is he as good as Utley, one of the best 2B in the last 50 years....ofcourse not. But he's pretty fu$king good and he's as hot as any player has been in years. Let's throw the 5yr/30 million at him. How much more could it possibly take to lock him up. His name is Dan F'ing Uggla Bitch! You better recognize. Utley may be better but Uggla is playing better... so Uggla should be the allstar.
May 23, 200818 yr BUT, Utley will surely get the nod in the allstar game. Sucks. :banghead Very few guys who deserve to go get omitted. Hanley was omitted two years in a row.
May 23, 200818 yr BUT, Utley will surely get the nod in the allstar game. Sucks. :banghead Very few guys who deserve to go get omitted. Hanley was omitted two years in a row. Unfortunately for Hanley the all-star game is played in mid JUly and the selection process is over by early July. If the game was played after the seaosn then he would have belonged but because of when the game is played and when the players are selected, Hanley didn't belong either year.
May 23, 200818 yr BUT, Utley will surely get the nod in the allstar game. Sucks. :banghead Very few guys who deserve to go get omitted. Hanley was omitted two years in a row. Unfortunately for Hanley the all-star game is played in mid JUly and the selection process is over by early July. If the game was played after the seaosn then he would have belonged but because of when the game is played and when the players are selected, Hanley didn't belong either year. Hanley was omitted cuz Reyes and Rollins were more popular, admit it. :mischief
May 23, 200818 yr Unfortunately for Hanley the all-star game is played in mid JUly and the selection process is over by early July. If the game was played after the seaosn then he would have belonged but because of when the game is played and when the players are selected, Hanley didn't belong either year. Run that by me again? He didn't belong in 2007? His stats leading up to June 29th, 2007(last day of all-star voting): G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS +---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+ 77 354 320 65 104 19 4 11 29 26 2 51 5 2 1 3 24 7 .325 .384 .513 .897 All-star backup JJ Hardy in the same period: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS +---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+ 72 324 295 45 82 13 0 18 50 28 1 47 0 0 1 3 0 3 .278 .340 .505 .845 All-Star starter Jose Reyes: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS +---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+ 77 364 317 54 101 16 8 4 34 44 10 42 0 2 1 2 39 11 .319 .401 .457 .858 I love the internet.
May 23, 200818 yr Unfortunately for Hanley the all-star game is played in mid JUly and the selection process is over by early July. If the game was played after the seaosn then he would have belonged but because of when the game is played and when the players are selected, Hanley didn't belong either year. Run that by me again? He didn't belong in 2007? Renteria, Reyes and Hardy belonged over Hanley. I know you're ignoring defense as if it doesn't matter but it does matter and last year Hanley was the worst defensive SS in MLB and if I remember corectly Hanley also stunk it up with RISP the first half while Hardy was very good at it. These are the overall numbers as of 6/29. Given that Hanley sucked with the glove and sucked with RISP, he didn't belong over any of these three other guys Hanley - .897 Renteria - .886 Hardy - .845 Reyes - .858
May 24, 200818 yr quick people vote uggla ovr utley http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2008/ballot_reg.html uggla keeps this up he should start but 3/4 of the country dosent kno his name
May 24, 200818 yr quick people vote uggla ovr utley http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2008/ballot_reg.html uggla keeps this up he should start but 3/4 of the country dosent kno his name Im voting for Uggla, Hanley, and Jacobs, being most deserving. There may be better options... but of the Marlins Im sayin.
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