Willingham and Allison? :lol

 

Why would they want that for a future HOF'er?

Clearly, Boston's front office and Manny aren't communicating now, but Boston has said, they want lots of good prospects back for Manny.

 

Willingham and Allison gives them a return of a DH (who hits less than Manny...something they don't need since they already have Ortiz)...

 

And Allison? The guy who's currently struggling, and has had drug addiction problems?

 

99.9% sure Boston wouldn't want that.

 

At least we can dream. :|

 

I definately see why Boston wouldnt do it... and I definately see why the Marlins wouldnt do it.... this trade hurts both teams. Willingham will be here next season. Manny wont.

 

If that's the deal, I'd take Manny in a heartbeat, and take the draft picks he'd give us on his way out.

 

Willingham has back problems, and Allison has had drug addiction problems. We're basically giving up zero prospects (unless if Allison resurrects his career...he has a long way to go) for one of the best RH hitters in the game.

 

If it's Hermida, no thanks. Hermida's actually not even reached his prime, and is our present and future RF'er for the next handful of years, at least...imo.

 

Willingham is actually just a stop gap for a guy like Stanton (someone the Red Sox would actually be interested in).

Manny to the Marlins? Could happen...

 

:whistle

 

Lol... Willingham or Hermida. Yeah right. Maybe Jacobs or Ross... but not Hammer or Hermida.

 

This is Manny f***ing Ramirez. You have to give up value to get value. acobs or Ross aren't going to bring back Ramirez - the Giants wouldn't even accept Jacobs for Molina. Stop dreaming.

 

Stop dreaming? This is Manny f***ING RENTAL Ramirez. You dont give out roster players, no matter the freaking value, for a player you will see sign elsewhere in 3 months. Especially when Manny just loves being Manny, he needs to get his act together.

 

You play to win the game. Manny in the outfield gets you much closer to a world series berth than Hermida/Hammer. I like both players, but come on.

 

 

And in the meantime... you try to build a dynasty. Try to build a winning team for the future. It isnt about building a 1 season team that will win it all and suck till kingdom come after that. Both ARE possible.

 

I hate to say it but we did the later in both 1997 and 2003 :|

Manny to the Marlins? Could happen...

 

:whistle

 

Lol... Willingham or Hermida. Yeah right. Maybe Jacobs or Ross... but not Hammer or Hermida.

 

This is Manny f***ing Ramirez. You have to give up value to get value. acobs or Ross aren't going to bring back Ramirez - the Giants wouldn't even accept Jacobs for Molina. Stop dreaming.

 

Stop dreaming? This is Manny f***ING RENTAL Ramirez. You dont give out roster players, no matter the freaking value, for a player you will see sign elsewhere in 3 months. Especially when Manny just loves being Manny, he needs to get his act together.

 

You play to win the game. Manny in the outfield gets you much closer to a world series berth than Hermida/Hammer. I like both players, but come on.

 

 

And in the meantime... you try to build a dynasty. Try to build a winning team for the future. It isnt about building a 1 season team that will win it all and suck till kingdom come after that. Both ARE possible.

 

I hate to say it but we did the later in both 1997 and 2003 :|

I agree I don't even think Hermida has begun to blossom as a star quite yet.

I agree I don't even think Hermida has begun to blossom as a star quite yet.

Manny to the Marlins? Could happen...

 

:whistle

 

Lol... Willingham or Hermida. Yeah right. Maybe Jacobs or Ross... but not Hammer or Hermida.

 

This is Manny f***ing Ramirez. You have to give up value to get value. acobs or Ross aren't going to bring back Ramirez - the Giants wouldn't even accept Jacobs for Molina. Stop dreaming.

 

Stop dreaming? This is Manny f***ING RENTAL Ramirez. You dont give out roster players, no matter the freaking value, for a player you will see sign elsewhere in 3 months. Especially when Manny just loves being Manny, he needs to get his act together.

 

You play to win the game. Manny in the outfield gets you much closer to a world series berth than Hermida/Hammer. I like both players, but come on.

 

 

And in the meantime... you try to build a dynasty. Try to build a winning team for the future. It isnt about building a 1 season team that will win it all and suck till kingdom come after that. Both ARE possible.

 

Willingham isn't a long term piece, and Hermida is still up in the air (whether you believe that's right or wrong, it's the truth). Trading one of them and a non-Volstad/West pitching prospect doesn't mortgage the future at all. It's not like we're trading Hanley Ramirez.

Manny to the Marlins? Could happen...

 

:whistle

 

Lol... Willingham or Hermida. Yeah right. Maybe Jacobs or Ross... but not Hammer or Hermida.

 

This is Manny f***ing Ramirez. You have to give up value to get value. acobs or Ross aren't going to bring back Ramirez - the Giants wouldn't even accept Jacobs for Molina. Stop dreaming.

 

Stop dreaming? This is Manny f***ING RENTAL Ramirez. You dont give out roster players, no matter the freaking value, for a player you will see sign elsewhere in 3 months. Especially when Manny just loves being Manny, he needs to get his act together.

 

You play to win the game. Manny in the outfield gets you much closer to a world series berth than Hermida/Hammer. I like both players, but come on.

 

 

And in the meantime... you try to build a dynasty. Try to build a winning team for the future. It isnt about building a 1 season team that will win it all and suck till kingdom come after that. Both ARE possible.

 

Willingham isn't a long term piece, and Hermida is still up in the air (whether you believe that's right or wrong, it's the truth). Trading one of them and a non-Volstad/West pitching prospect doesn't mortgage the future at all. It's not like we're trading Hanley Ramirez.

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham) plus Allison (who could morph into Tucker at a moment's notice).

 

Willingham only comes in because of the old Gammons rumor that the Red Sox like Hammer.

 

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all (see my Uggla quote below). Or because they think Hermida is too high a price to pay. As long as Hermida plays right field with a frying pan and is prone to long hitting droughts with arbitration coming up for 13 guys next season he's gone if this deal gets done and especially with two draft picks coming our way out of it.

 

But again I have to remind myself that so far this is all idle speculations built on last minute rumors compounded by a ravenous media knocking out trading deadline stories every five minutes.

 

And then there's Manny's knee...

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham) plus Allison (who could morph into Tucker at a moment's notice).

 

Willingham only comes in because of the old Gammons rumor that the Red Sox like Hammer.

 

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all (see my Uggla quote below). Or because they think Hermida is too high a price to pay. As long as Hermida plays right field with a frying pan and is prone to long hitting droughts with arbitration coming up for 13 guys next season he's gone if this deal gets done and especially with two draft picks coming our way out of it.

 

But again I have to remind myself that so far this is all idle speculations built on last minute rumors compounded by a ravenous media knocking out trading deadline stories every five minutes.

 

And then there's Manny's knee...

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham) plus Allison (who could morph into Tucker at a moment's notice).

 

Willingham only comes in because of the old Gammons rumor that the Red Sox like Hammer.

 

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all (see my Uggla quote below). Or because they think Hermida is too high a price to pay. As long as Hermida plays right field with a frying pan and is prone to long hitting droughts with arbitration coming up for 13 guys next season he's gone if this deal gets done and especially with two draft picks coming our way out of it.

 

But again I have to remind myself that so far this is all idle speculations built on last minute rumors compounded by a ravenous media knocking out trading deadline stories every five minutes.

 

And then there's Manny's knee...

 

The point on Hermida though is that he has yet to blossom, do you believe this? He is supposably a 5 tool player.

 

Meh. :|

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham) plus Allison (who could morph into Tucker at a moment's notice).

 

Willingham only comes in because of the old Gammons rumor that the Red Sox like Hammer.

 

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all (see my Uggla quote below). Or because they think Hermida is too high a price to pay. As long as Hermida plays right field with a frying pan and is prone to long hitting droughts with arbitration coming up for 13 guys next season he's gone if this deal gets done and especially with two draft picks coming our way out of it.

 

But again I have to remind myself that so far this is all idle speculations built on last minute rumors compounded by a ravenous media knocking out trading deadline stories every five minutes.

 

And then there's Manny's knee...

 

The point on Hermida though is that he has yet to blossom, do you believe this? He is supposably a 5 tool player.

 

Meh. :|

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all

 

These boys are only 6 years old and will do anything people tell them or anything they see others do.

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all

 

These boys are only 6 years old and will do anything people tell them or anything they see others do.

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham)

 

 

the rumor is that we offered either-or and the Red Soxs can pick which they'd rather have.

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham)

 

 

the rumor is that we offered either-or and the Red Soxs can pick which they'd rather have.

Well, Samson will be on with LeBatard at 6. My guess is that he rebukes these rumors. The past few years he has taken fun speculation away from Marlins fans with these kind of rumors. Hope I'm wrong.

Well, Samson will be on with LeBatard at 6. My guess is that he rebukes these rumors. The past few years he has taken fun speculation away from Marlins fans with these kind of rumors. Hope I'm wrong.

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all

 

These boys are only 6 years old and will do anything people tell them or anything they see others do.

I'm amazed people are willing to turn their backs to a potential .400 OBP in the middle of the lineup because some think our "boys" are too young and impressionable and Manny will ruin them all

 

These boys are only 6 years old and will do anything people tell them or anything they see others do.

What ever. I know Willingham isnt part of the long term but he is part of the longer term, in terms of Manny. And if we trade him, you want him to be replaced, not erased. Simple as that.

What ever. I know Willingham isnt part of the long term but he is part of the longer term, in terms of Manny. And if we trade him, you want him to be replaced, not erased. Simple as that.

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham)

 

 

the rumor is that we offered either-or and the Red Soxs can pick which they'd rather have.

 

 

I don't see why any team would take Hammer over Hermida, at the moment, though, so I'll go with Marlins2003, and say 99.9% sure it'll be Hermida.

 

I'm also 99.9% sure this isn't happening. :|

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham)

 

 

the rumor is that we offered either-or and the Red Soxs can pick which they'd rather have.

 

 

I don't see why any team would take Hammer over Hermida, at the moment, though, so I'll go with Marlins2003, and say 99.9% sure it'll be Hermida.

 

I'm also 99.9% sure this isn't happening. :|

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham)

 

 

the rumor is that we offered either-or and the Red Soxs can pick which they'd rather have.

 

 

I don't see why any team would take Hammer over Hermida, at the moment, though, so I'll go with Marlins2003, and say 99.9% sure it'll be Hermida.

 

I'm also 99.9% sure this isn't happening. :|

 

I am 00.1% percent sure this can/will happen :|

The rumor is Hermida (not Willingham)

 

 

the rumor is that we offered either-or and the Red Soxs can pick which they'd rather have.

 

 

I don't see why any team would take Hammer over Hermida, at the moment, though, so I'll go with Marlins2003, and say 99.9% sure it'll be Hermida.

 

I'm also 99.9% sure this isn't happening. :|

 

I am 00.1% percent sure this can/will happen :|