September 18, 200817 yr http://www.miamiherald.com/459/story/691573.html In a ruling carrying implications for Miami's megaplan -- a public-works package that includes a new Florida Marlins stadium and other projects -- the Florida Supreme Court Thursday ruled that voter referendums are not required when spending large chunks of community-redevelopment money. The ruling had been holding up the final court decision in auto dealer Norman Braman's lawsuit attempting to derail the stadium. But the Supreme Court's ruling could well pave the way for the end of Braman's case. The development money, usually administered by community redevelopment agencies, or CRAs, is the glue that holds Miami's megaplan together. Although not used to directly fund the Marlins stadium, CRA money would flow to other pieces of the megaplan -- freeing up separate dollars to pay for the stadium. The voter-referendum issue has been one of the biggest headaches for megaplan backers, though they have done their best to work around it. The issue was raised by megaplan opponent Braman in court, and despite Braman's string of recent court defeats, it still had the potential to complicate the issue of stadium funding going foward. No longer. Thursday's ruling is a 180-degree about-face from a 2007 decision by the same court. Last year, Florida Supreme Court justices found that in order to bond out CRA money -- the typical method of funding big-ticket projects -- voter approval had to be obtained. That decision sent shock waves to local governments throughout the state. With CRA coffers swelled by the recent real estate boom, local governments had been assembling a virtual laundry list of construction projects to use the money on. For decades, taking that spending to voters was never a requirement. In its new ruling, the court acknowledged that its decision last year held the potential to upend the state's financial structure, which had come to depend on spending CRA money under a certain set of rules. Adding the voter requirement, the court found, "would cause serious disruption to the governmental authorities that have relied upon that precedent for planning public works that are in various stages of development and approval.'' Game, set, match. The stadium is as good as yours. :mischief
September 18, 200817 yr What about all this talk about the commissioners voting again and needing 9 yes'?
September 18, 200817 yr What about all this talk about the commissioners voting again and needing 9 yes'? they have to vote on the construction agreement....alot of them were undecided but because they felt the public should have a say in it, or a referendum...but i think this decsion by the supreme court sums it up... here is the link to the article i mentioned earlier: http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/080918/story4.shtml the supreme courts ruling is a great thing...but we need the commisioners votes to get this thing fianlized
September 18, 200817 yr From the Marlins site: Even with recent legal victories, the stadium plan still must receive final approval from commissioners in the city of Miami and in Miami-Dade County. The team is hopeful to complete the four remaining documents, and have them voted on by commissioners within 30 to 60 days.
September 18, 200817 yr Author Yes!!!! Burn in hell Braman! :devil This is the point. Of course the construction agreement needs to be approved, but Norman Braman has now been completely eliminated from the equation.
September 18, 200817 yr Dude, all I could see in the preview on the post was FL Supreme Court rules referendum, so I was like: f***!
September 18, 200817 yr Wow! feels like a walk off. Now if the local politicians just don't queer the deal with their petty bickering..
September 18, 200817 yr i bet Braman going say he going appeal to highest court he want delay it too end of year he is ass*** that Braman donot know when to stop
September 18, 200817 yr I'm sure Braman will appeal, but looking at this from afar, I don't see how this will slow things down. Most of the court's rulings seemed pretty clear; the referendum was the toughest call. Now that the FL Supreme Court has ruled, he would be silly to even raise it as a ground of appeal. Regardless, as others have pointed out, unless an appellate court issues an injunction (highly unlikely), the Marlins can move forward. The only real remaining issue, it seems, is contract approval, but, I imagine, after much political posturing, it will pass with the minimum number of votes needed.
September 18, 200817 yr i bet Braman going say he going appeal to highest court he want delay it too end of year he is ass*** that Braman donot know when to stop Not an attorney, but I would think that somewhere he needs to be getting advice that he is throwing away his money, unless he has a bunch of yes people around him. There seems to be just to much precedent on the rulings for the Supreme court to reverse anything. So, miamibaseball, I know you worry alot about this, and I guess justifiably so given the politics, but we could really be seeing this thing break ground this year.
September 18, 200817 yr i bet Braman going say he going appeal to highest court he want delay it too end of year he is ass*** that Braman donot know when to stop Not an attorney, but I would think that somewhere he needs to be getting advice that he is throwing away his money, unless he has a bunch of yes people around him. There seems to be just to much precedent on the rulings for the Supreme court to reverse anything. So, miamibaseball, I know you worry alot about this, and I guess justifiably so given the politics, but we could really be seeing this thing break ground this year. yes i want to see ground breaking but Braman want to be pain in ass
September 18, 200817 yr Yah know how some Boston fan buried a jersey at the New Yankee Stadium site, let's bury Braman beneath home plate at the new stadium lol!
September 18, 200817 yr Braman will surely croak before the appeal runs it's course. My guess is his heirs don't give a ratsass about any of this quixotic nonsense. Done deal, just give me a seating chart and GO MIAMI MARLINS!!
September 18, 200817 yr Braman will surely croak before the appeal runs it's course. My guess is his heirs don't give a ratsass about any of this quixotic nonsense. Done deal, just give me a seating chart and GO MIAMI MARLINS!! Agreed, now when do opening day tickets go on sale? I wanna get in line as early as possible! :thumbup
September 18, 200817 yr FYI, here's the story on the decision: http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/storie...15/daily52.html
September 19, 200817 yr It is done! all barriers have been surpassed. The final step won't be a problem. Time to break ground
September 19, 200817 yr I trust that the county manager won't bring the stadium agreements up for a vote if the votes are not there. I am sure they know each commissioner's concerns and hopefully have a plan to try to convince the commissioners to vote for the stadium. Sorenson and Souto are hopeless. Gimenez will probably vote against. We need Martinez or Heyman to vote for the stadium. I think Heyman is a no vote. Martinez I think can be convinced. The other eight commissioners will vote for the stadium. We need 9
September 19, 200817 yr Sampson needs to get his head out of his ass and show us those renderings...stop promising that you'll show them next week or the week after!!!! Just do it!!!! Maybe with all the excitement that it will generate with the fans it'll push this team to continue winning...and you never know what'll happen next.
September 19, 200817 yr Talked to my source today. Because of his position in the city, its hard not to trust what he says. Since the whole Braman thing started, he told me not to worry. I explained to him why I was worried, and he basically predicted this entire thing. He predicted exactly every court decision and around what time they were made. Anyone who thinks they wait for decisions just like we do is naive. Every commissioner knows how they are going to vote already. Certain commissioners held their yes vote for a ransom. Some are going to get what they want, and already have, while others wont. Thats the beauty of these things. You don't need everyone to say yes. You just need to make the minimum requirement of votes. From my source in the city, "Technically, the vote hasn't passed. But in reality it will, because we already have the required amount of votes." I'm not worried at all, and haven't been. He showed me another sneak peak at final renderings. They are the same ones I saw a month ago. The stadium looks great, and I cannot wait until everyone gets to see what I have. wow, awseome info...thanx!!!!!
September 19, 200817 yr and I cannot wait until everyone gets to see what I have. Wanna leak them? Anonymously of course.
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