Stop taking the easy way out...

 

First off, Cantu shouldn't have gone home in the first place, with no one out. Second...the Marlins had three chances to score with .RISP in that inning...and failed. (specifically Dan Uggla, on the "C.B Bucknor" play).

 

They made 2 unforced errors in one inning, which led to a Phillies run.

 

It's easy to blame an umpire, but fact is they are human. He went a little overboard on that strike 1 call to Baker...but seriously, put yourself in his position on the play at home plate...being honest, (if I were a casual fan, in this game)...I probably would've called Cantu out, as well. While he was safe, the ball got there before Cantu did, and Bucknor had a bad angle on the play.

 

Tough. But...I'm proud of this team...still in it, if we can get to within 3 of the Mets before that final series. It's almost impossible...but hey, whatever.

 

I'll be there tomorrow, cheering on this 2008 team. They deserve it.

Yeah seriously....blaming the ump is for Mets and Phillies fans. Maybe if Uggla or Willingham could hit the damn ball out of the infield we could have scored a run or two. Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

He wasn't the only reason for the loss but he sure was part of it.

Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

 

 

 

Great point. I didn't even realize it, until you pointed it out.

Of course Erick tries to sound logical, it is true, u shouldn't blame the ump, we did screw ourselves in the beginning, but we were on a role, if he is safe, then we have 1st and 2nd and no outs, and that ground ball out leads to 2nd and 3rd 1 out. Who knows what happens after that. CB really didn't help his case, he messed up for both teams throughout the game, just happened to do it to us in the crucial moment.

Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

 

 

 

Great point. I didn't even realize it, until you pointed it out.

 

 

I TOLD U THAT IN THE GAME THREAD

Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

 

 

 

Great point. I didn't even realize it, until you pointed it out.

 

yep, deffinately would have gaven us another shot at tying the game.

He wasn't the only reason for the loss but he sure was part of it.

 

 

that was part of it then Andino going to 3rd or Uggla Hitting a flyball for the Sacrifice and the consecutive errors by Cantu and Anibal

Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

 

 

 

Great point. I didn't even realize it, until you pointed it out.

 

yep, deffinately would have gaven us another shot at tying the game.

Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

 

 

 

Great point. I didn't even realize it, until you pointed it out.

 

 

I TOLD U THAT IN THE GAME THREAD

 

I didn't read your post on the gamethread, then.

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

 

 

 

Great point. I didn't even realize it, until you pointed it out.

 

 

I TOLD U THAT IN THE GAME THREAD

 

I didn't read your post on the gamethread, then.

 

 

I'm just guessing u like to ignore my posts tbh

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

yeah, and then he gives criticism to people who don't deserve it. We've all seen it before

Or if Andino wasn't asleep on second base he could have moved to third and scored on the next ground ball. Its a good thing Andino is such a talented player!!!

 

 

 

Great point. I didn't even realize it, until you pointed it out.

 

 

there's no guarantee that andino would have scored cause the infield might have been in at that time w/ one out and andino at third.

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

yeah, and then he gives criticism to people who don't deserve it. We've all seen it before

 

 

Like?

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

 

And Cantu, Uggla, Andino, Anibal Sanchez (throwing error) to be specific...also played a BIG part. That won't get as much criticism, however. UMPIRE SUCKS! :whistle

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

yeah, and then he gives criticism to people who don't deserve it. We've all seen it before

 

 

Like?

 

u really expect me to come up wit examples off the top of my head? its a general observation, i don't notice the details

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

 

And Cantu, Uggla, Andino, Anibal Sanchez (throwing error) to be specific...also played a BIG part. That won't get as much criticism, however. UMPIRE SUCKS! :whistle

 

I get what you say man, but those are two independent mistakes. The fact that we had already made mistakes does NOT take anything from the fact that the ump BLEW the call. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

 

And Cantu, Uggla, Andino, Anibal Sanchez (throwing error) to be specific...also played a BIG part. That won't get as much criticism, however. UMPIRE SUCKS! :whistle

 

But all of that wouldn't have mattered had Bucknor made the proper call. See what I'm saying? Nobody is saying the team should have NO blame. They certainly desevre SOME blame, but Bucknor deserves MORE blame.

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

 

And Cantu, Uggla, Andino, Anibal Sanchez (throwing error) to be specific...also played a BIG part. That won't get as much criticism, however. UMPIRE SUCKS! :whistle

 

But all of that wouldn't have mattered had Bucknor made the proper call. See what I'm saying? Nobody is saying the team should have NO blame. They certainly desevre SOME blame, but Bucknor deserves MORE blame.

 

But he doesn't deserve MORE blame. If anything, he deserves an EQUAL amount of blame. Plus...how the hell do the Marlins win if Bucknor calls him safe? A 3-3 game = a W now?

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

Im not suprised, but thats because he actually thinks. yea C.B screwed up the call, but we had so many more chances to score, and we didnt. And our D ruined this game, not C.B. If you guys would actually think, you would understand why Erick made this thread.

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

yeah, and then he gives criticism to people who don't deserve it. We've all seen it before

 

 

Like?

 

u really expect me to come up wit examples off the top of my head? its a general observation, i don't notice the details

 

 

Well, if you don't have any details...then I guess you're talking sh*t. Come up with an example...maybe then I'll pay attention.

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

yeah, and then he gives criticism to people who don't deserve it. We've all seen it before

 

 

Like?

 

u really expect me to come up wit examples off the top of my head? its a general observation, i don't notice the details

 

 

Well, if you don't have any details...then I guess you're talking sh*t. Come up with an example...maybe then I'll pay attention.

 

 

ignorance imo

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

 

And Cantu, Uggla, Andino, Anibal Sanchez (throwing error) to be specific...also played a BIG part. That won't get as much criticism, however. UMPIRE SUCKS! :whistle

 

But all of that wouldn't have mattered had Bucknor made the proper call. See what I'm saying? Nobody is saying the team should have NO blame. They certainly desevre SOME blame, but Bucknor deserves MORE blame.

 

But he doesn't deserve MORE blame. If anything, he deserves an EQUAL amount of blame. Plus...how the hell do the Marlins win if Bucknor calls him safe? A 3-3 game = a W now?

 

If Bucknor didn't blow the call, the Marlins would have had a VERY VERY VERY good opportunity to win the game...but because Bucknor (who btw, is rated by the players as the worst umpire in the league by a large margin) blew the game, the marlins were robbed of that opportunity. Therefore, Bucknor deserves heavy blame for the loss.

Anyone else not surprised Erick started this thread?

 

He's always quick to defend people who deserve criticism. Of course Bucknor didn't single handedly change the outcome of the game...but he blew a call that was a major determinent of the outcome of the game.

 

 

 

And Cantu, Uggla, Andino, Anibal Sanchez (throwing error) to be specific...also played a BIG part. That won't get as much criticism, however. UMPIRE SUCKS! :whistle

 

But all of that wouldn't have mattered had Bucknor made the proper call. See what I'm saying? Nobody is saying the team should have NO blame. They certainly desevre SOME blame, but Bucknor deserves MORE blame.

 

But he doesn't deserve MORE blame. If anything, he deserves an EQUAL amount of blame. Plus...how the hell do the Marlins win if Bucknor calls him safe? A 3-3 game = a W now?

 

 

its called momentum, a tying run scoring and guys on 1st and 2nd wit no outs is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the frustration after a missed call and 1st and 2nd wit no outs, down by 1