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The most important thing for me is to limit the amount of appearances for Pinto, they killed his arm.

 

 

It annoyed the hell out of me that in the Sun Sentinal they listed Pinto before Gregg as a reason the marlins aren't in the playoffs. I know he had a bad August, but other than that he was great, and his mistakes were more due to Fredi overworking him, they also mentioned how the majority of people say that Fredi did not do a good job managing this year

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gardner did really good in 07 and if nelson & owens do a good job then we have plenty of backups incase lindstrom struggles

 

We have mentioned Henry Owens in the bullpen for most of last year, the beginning of this year and now for next year. Owens has pitched at total of 23 innings in just under 2 years, with 19 hits, 10 BB and 16 strikes and has been on the disabled list for that entire time. I would think Owens has a heck of lot to prove to even be considered for the bull pen. Owens had rotator cuff surgery last August and has yet to re-appear. I suggest we leave him out any bullpen discussion until he proves he can even throw again. With his awkward arm slot he uses keeping healthy will be a real problem for him.

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i hope he is. but i wouldn't go with 8 guys in the bullpen. i don't think rhodes will be back so pinto would take his spot and i hope kensing doesn't make the major league roster which would leave lindstrom, nelson, pinto, lee, weachter, owens, and tankersley in the bullpen.

 

I hope your wrong Rhodes is still an extremely effective pitcher . Rhoades and Pinto have different roles , Pinto is a 8th inning guy , Rhodes a lefty specialist. If my memory is correct Pinto's number were better against right hand batters than left hand batters or it was until he couldnt get anyone out.

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You guys think Lee Gardner will be a Marlin next year?

I really think he should be one especially having that 1.90 ERA season in 2007.

 

Bullpen for 09:

CL: Lindstrom

Nelson

Gardner

Rhodes

Kensing

Waechter

Tankersely

Owens

 

sick bullpen

 

 

looks good but i have doubts with Owens, Rhodes might not be back next season and we might not resign Kensing or Dw and maybe even Joe No but hopefully we do. Also we need Gardy, Tank and DW to go back to form so our pen can be at its best

I still think we need to acuirre a GOOD veteran arm to lead the bullpen.

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gardner did really good in 07 and if nelson & owens do a good job then we have plenty of backups incase lindstrom struggles

 

We have mentioned Henry Owens in the bullpen for most of last year, the beginning of this year and now for next year. Owens has pitched at total of 23 innings in just under 2 years, with 19 hits, 10 BB and 16 strikes and has been on the disabled list for that entire time. I would think Owens has a heck of lot to prove to even be considered for the bull pen. Owens had rotator cuff surgery last August and has yet to re-appear. I suggest we leave him out any bullpen discussion until he proves he can even throw again. With his awkward arm slot he uses keeping healthy will be a real problem for him.

 

You'd of thought Henry Owens had Tommy John surgery with all the time he has missed. I second the motion of keeping Owens out of bullpen discussions until I see him in spring training (not doing light tossing or light baseball activities), but actually really throwing the ball!

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