October 21, 200817 yr One could argue that first base would be worse for his back than LF You could argue, but you'd be wrong. Well I figured all the constant bending over, being hunched over (the ready position, if you will), digging balls out of the dirt, diving for the ball, racing in for bunts, etc would be much worse on Willingham's back than make 4-5 plays a night Most people don't really understand how tough of a position 1B really is.
October 21, 200817 yr One could argue that first base would be worse for his back than LF You could argue, but you'd be wrong. Well I figured all the constant bending over, being hunched over (the ready position, if you will), digging balls out of the dirt, diving for the ball, racing in for bunts, etc would be much worse on Willingham's back than make 4-5 plays a night Most people don't really understand how tough of a position 1B really is. I was kind of an Amezega back in my day... I've played LF, RF, 1B, 2B, 3B most of my life, all on and off. I know how difficult first base CAN be. But, it's still the easiest position on the field IMO.
October 21, 200817 yr One could argue that first base would be worse for his back than LF You could argue, but you'd be wrong. Well I figured all the constant bending over, being hunched over (the ready position, if you will), digging balls out of the dirt, diving for the ball, racing in for bunts, etc would be much worse on Willingham's back than make 4-5 plays a night Most people don't really understand how tough of a position 1B really is. I was kind of an Amezega back in my day... I've played LF, RF, 1B, 2B, 3B most of my life, all on and off. I know how difficult first base CAN be. But, it's still the easiest position on the field IMO. Depending. Are you going by natural skill or by talent. You need to have less natural skill to play 1B, but you need to be talented to play it properly. CF, in my opinion, is the easiest position to play by far. Also, I wasn't calling you out or anything, I was making a general observation.
October 21, 200817 yr I've been a big fan of Ross since 07. I definitely think he deserves a starting spot, I think it's safe to assume that one of Willingham/Hermida will be traded and I see him taking up that spot. I doubt they move Willingham to 1st, I think they plan to use Cantu and eventually Sanchez there, never know though it is an interesting idea.
October 21, 200817 yr Cody should start in front of Willingham. He is a better defender and is good with the bat. No reason he shouldnt Cody should start in front Hermida, in RF. exactly, Cody is the better fielder, and has just as good an arm. Put Hermida in left, give him ONE last chance, hopefully he takes advantage of it, but i doubt it They should definitely give Hermida one more chance. It would suck if he turned out to be the great player that he is capable of being for another team next year. But then again, if he doesn't .... that can come back to hunt us.
October 21, 200817 yr Depending. Are you going by natural skill or by talent. You need to have less natural skill to play 1B, but you need to be talented to play it properly. CF, in my opinion, is the easiest position to play by far. Also, I wasn't calling you out or anything, I was making a general observation. I understand. BUT, I completely disagree about centerfield. I think it is by far the hardest outfield spot. I was a very good technical defender, kind of like Ross, and I COULD play center... But I just didn't have anywhere near the required speed/range. And despite the good breaks I would get on balls, centerfield just has so many different angles and approaches. Far more difficult IMO.
October 21, 200817 yr Depending. Are you going by natural skill or by talent. You need to have less natural skill to play 1B, but you need to be talented to play it properly. CF, in my opinion, is the easiest position to play by far. Also, I wasn't calling you out or anything, I was making a general observation. I understand. BUT, I completely disagree about centerfield. I think it is by far the hardest outfield spot. I was a very good technical defender, kind of like Ross, and I COULD play center... But I just didn't have anywhere near the required speed/range. And despite the good breaks I would get on balls, centerfield just has so many different angles and approaches. Far more difficult IMO. See, that's where the distinction is made, it all depends on what you mean by harder. CF needs more natural talent to play but needs less "skill". The ball is generally coming straight at you or straight to the left or right. I've always found it easier to take good routes in center than at the corners. When you are in left or right, the balls is always slicing and is more difficult to judge. But hey, this is just an opinion.
October 21, 200817 yr Sorry Rab, but CF is one of the toughest positions on the field. If a ball is in between Left and CF or RF and CF, the CF is the one that makes the decision, he is responsible for a lot of the plays in the OF. As for the routes, I have to say there is a lot more room in CF, so it is a lot easier to see how much room you have and to take a good route, CF's are the only OF position which you really need speed, which makes it a hell of a lot harder. In the corners, the walls get closer as you approach them, and sometimes causes the outfielders to take bad routes, but they have a lot less field they are responsible for. Although many would disagree, I would have to say 2nd base is the easiest position in baseball. I have played all positions on the diamond on my HS team, and I have to say 2B is by far the easiest. All you have to do is most of the time judge the ball, and after that it is usually either an easy toss to 2nd or an easy throw to 1st.
October 21, 200817 yr Sorry Rab, but CF is one of the toughest positions on the field. If a ball is in between Left and CF or RF and CF, the CF is the one that makes the decision, he is responsible for a lot of the plays in the OF. Although many would disagree, I would have to say 2nd base is the easiest position in baseball. I have played all positions on the diamond on my HS team, and I have to say 2B is by far the easiest. All you have to do is most of the time judge the ball, and after that it is usually either an easy toss to 2nd or an easy throw to 1st. Actually, when you are playing CF, even if a ball curves away from you, you either have the LF or the RF to back you up. If you play in a corner outfield spot, the ball would sometimes bounce in fair territory, but then curve towards the wall. I also wouldn't consider any infield position the easiest in baseball, seeing as though balls can take wild hops, which they rarely do in the grass.
October 21, 200817 yr Sorry Rab, but CF is one of the toughest positions on the field. If a ball is in between Left and CF or RF and CF, the CF is the one that makes the decision, he is responsible for a lot of the plays in the OF. Although many would disagree, I would have to say 2nd base is the easiest position in baseball. I have played all positions on the diamond on my HS team, and I have to say 2B is by far the easiest. All you have to do is most of the time judge the ball, and after that it is usually either an easy toss to 2nd or an easy throw to 1st. Actually, when you are playing CF, even if a ball curves away from you, you either have the LF or the RF to back you up. If you play in a corner outfield spot, the ball would sometimes bounce in fair territory, but then curve towards the wall. I also wouldn't consider any infield position the easiest in baseball, seeing as though balls can take wild hops, which they rarely do in the grass. In CF, you need tons of speed out there, remember the guys are a far way away from each other, so a ball curving usually means it is up to the CF'er to get to the ball. As for the IF positions, 2nd Base is still easiest, just based off of the difficulty of throws the majority of the time
October 21, 200817 yr Sorry Rab, but CF is one of the toughest positions on the field. If a ball is in between Left and CF or RF and CF, the CF is the one that makes the decision, he is responsible for a lot of the plays in the OF. Although many would disagree, I would have to say 2nd base is the easiest position in baseball. I have played all positions on the diamond on my HS team, and I have to say 2B is by far the easiest. All you have to do is most of the time judge the ball, and after that it is usually either an easy toss to 2nd or an easy throw to 1st. Actually, when you are playing CF, even if a ball curves away from you, you either have the LF or the RF to back you up. If you play in a corner outfield spot, the ball would sometimes bounce in fair territory, but then curve towards the wall. I also wouldn't consider any infield position the easiest in baseball, seeing as though balls can take wild hops, which they rarely do in the grass. In CF, you need tons of speed out there, remember the guys are a far way away from each other, so a ball curving usually means it is up to the CF'er to get to the ball. As for the IF positions, 2nd Base is still easiest, just based off of the difficulty of throws the majority of the time Sure, any CF needs speed, but most balls that land in the gap usually end up going to the wall, making it a pretty easy play for the CF. Just because they would be allowing a double or a triple, doesn't mean its a hard position to play. You're right, 2B is the easiest infield position to play, but not the easiest overall position to play.
October 22, 200817 yr I completely disagree that second base is the easiest position to play on the infield. That was actually my main position, and between first and second it is no contest. Second base you have to deal with major range to the right, and having to come back across the body on several plays to make the throw to first. You also have to deal with double plays, whether it be fielding a ball and spitting it out to the SS as soon as possible, or receiving a transfer and getting rid of it as fast as possible while avoiding contact (which is usually much more difficult for a 2B than a SS).
October 22, 200817 yr Sorry Rab, but CF is one of the toughest positions on the field. If a ball is in between Left and CF or RF and CF, the CF is the one that makes the decision, he is responsible for a lot of the plays in the OF. Although many would disagree, I would have to say 2nd base is the easiest position in baseball. I have played all positions on the diamond on my HS team, and I have to say 2B is by far the easiest. All you have to do is most of the time judge the ball, and after that it is usually either an easy toss to 2nd or an easy throw to 1st. Actually, when you are playing CF, even if a ball curves away from you, you either have the LF or the RF to back you up. If you play in a corner outfield spot, the ball would sometimes bounce in fair territory, but then curve towards the wall. I also wouldn't consider any infield position the easiest in baseball, seeing as though balls can take wild hops, which they rarely do in the grass. In CF, you need tons of speed out there, remember the guys are a far way away from each other, so a ball curving usually means it is up to the CF'er to get to the ball. As for the IF positions, 2nd Base is still easiest, just based off of the difficulty of throws the majority of the time See, that is the issue again. You are talking about the natural ability. If you are fast, it's not "hard" to be fast. That's genetics. Also, even when the ball is curving, it's easy to see. It's more difficult, for me at least, when I am in left and right.
October 22, 200817 yr I completely disagree that second base is the easiest position to play on the infield. That was actually my main position, and between first and second it is no contest. Second base you have to deal with major range to the right, and having to come back across the body on several plays to make the throw to first. You also have to deal with double plays, whether it be fielding a ball and spitting it out to the SS as soon as possible, or receiving a transfer and getting rid of it as fast as possible while avoiding contact (which is usually much more difficult for a 2B than a SS). I never found avoiding the runner that difficult, because i good 2nd baseman doesn't just standing on the base , recieve the ball then throw to first. A good 2nd baseman catches it, runs through the base, and while in the air or while running through the base throw the ball to first. On 2nd base, if a ball is hit sharply, if you have to dive, since you are so close to the base, you usually have enough time to turn yourself around, set yourself up and make the throw, and it is a lot easier due to the fact that you are closer to 1st than any other position
October 22, 200817 yr I completely disagree that second base is the easiest position to play on the infield. That was actually my main position, and between first and second it is no contest. Second base you have to deal with major range to the right, and having to come back across the body on several plays to make the throw to first. You also have to deal with double plays, whether it be fielding a ball and spitting it out to the SS as soon as possible, or receiving a transfer and getting rid of it as fast as possible while avoiding contact (which is usually much more difficult for a 2B than a SS). 1B- Has to make scoops on bad throws, and has to charge on bunts. 2B- Has to deal with double plays, and some off-balance throws. 3B- Has to have the best arm out of every infielder, and has to charge on bunts. SS- Has to cover for most steals, has to deal with double plays, and has to make some off-balance throws. In my opinion, 2B is the easiest infield position to play.
October 22, 200817 yr Author Btw in the title it says #8 CF but in the first post it says #7.......... Oops.
October 22, 200817 yr Cody should start in front of Willingham. He is a better defender and is good with the bat. No reason he shouldnt Cody should start in front Hermida, in RF. exactly, Cody is the better fielder, and has just as good an arm. Put Hermida in left, give him ONE last chance, hopefully he takes advantage of it, but i doubt it You make me think you are a moron quite often.
October 22, 200817 yr If Hammer stays, he is still the better player than Ross. Unbiased response to your comment :thumbdown Enlighten me as to why Cody is the better player. Cody has more power imo. The most important thing is in the field. This team was terrible defensively last year, but Cody was one of the few bright spots in the OF. We need to keep him and start him to help out our defense. Cody is faster and more mobile in the outfield, and teams are not afraid to run on Hammer's arm, while teams will be cautious with Cody's arm Ya might want to stick with the truth when comparing the two. One on Hammer's pluses is his arm. He just can't stay healthy enough to use it for a full season.
October 22, 200817 yr One could argue that first base would be worse for his back than LF You could argue, but you'd be wrong. Well I figured all the constant bending over, being hunched over (the ready position, if you will), digging balls out of the dirt, diving for the ball, racing in for bunts, etc would be much worse on Willingham's back than make 4-5 plays a night Not much bending, outfielders also stand in a ready position (if they're more attentive than Hermida), outfield dives are much harder on the body, first basemen rarely run down for bunts, ect. Sorry, but you're very, very wrong. What????
October 22, 200817 yr Cody should start in front of Willingham. He is a better defender and is good with the bat. No reason he shouldnt Cody should start in front Hermida, in RF. exactly, Cody is the better fielder, and has just as good an arm. Put Hermida in left, give him ONE last chance, hopefully he takes advantage of it, but i doubt it The only reason that wont happen is because Hermida has a stronger arm than Cody and you need a strong arm in RF also Hermida is unfamiliar with LF and would probably suck at playing the wall Also Cody, not just looking at offensive numbers is one of the Top CF in the League Only ones i can think that are ahead are Beltran, Griffey, Ellsbury, BJ Upton, a healthy Mcclouth and Kemp but thats just off the top of my head
October 22, 200817 yr Sorry Rab, but CF is one of the toughest positions on the field. If a ball is in between Left and CF or RF and CF, the CF is the one that makes the decision, he is responsible for a lot of the plays in the OF. As for the routes, I have to say there is a lot more room in CF, so it is a lot easier to see how much room you have and to take a good route, CF's are the only OF position which you really need speed, which makes it a hell of a lot harder. In the corners, the walls get closer as you approach them, and sometimes causes the outfielders to take bad routes, but they have a lot less field they are responsible for. Although many would disagree, I would have to say 2nd base is the easiest position in baseball. I have played all positions on the diamond on my HS team, and I have to say 2B is by far the easiest. All you have to do is most of the time judge the ball, and after that it is usually either an easy toss to 2nd or an easy throw to 1st. I have to agree with Rabb that CF is easier because most balls are not slicing , I understand range is a concern but knowledge to play the hitter is more important that is why Kotsay was such a great CF. Playing 2nd base is not easy, I mean playing it well many shortstops have not been able to transition to 2nd because of the pivot
October 22, 200817 yr I never found avoiding the runner that difficult, because i good 2nd baseman doesn't just standing on the base , recieve the ball then throw to first. A good 2nd baseman catches it, runs through the base, and while in the air or while running through the base throw the ball to first. On 2nd base, if a ball is hit sharply, if you have to dive, since you are so close to the base, you usually have enough time to turn yourself around, set yourself up and make the throw, and it is a lot easier due to the fact that you are closer to 1st than any other position Actually, most of the time at second base receiving a throw or flip from short, you will keep a foot on second with your body on the right side of the bag, receive the ball, and come off and throw. Many times when you are coming off in a bang-bang play, you are required to jump. Not so easy. And to BroncoBob: How often is a wheel play in affect? And how often will there be a play in which maybe a lefty will bunt it down the line in maybe an attempt to get it past a left-handed pitcher who is out of position to field the play?
October 22, 200817 yr Too be honest 2nd base is not as easy as it looks. Played there for the 1st ime in my life last week and it wasent exactly a picnic. Not only do you have to turn DP but avoidng runners that will basically grab you to stop it from happening really sucks and makes the throw more difficult plus you have to put everything on the throw if you go off your back foot. Then the range factor because you have to chase shallow balls going into rightfield especially with a slower 1st baseman. Diring practice thought it was going to be as easy as 1,2,3 but it gets tough come game time. CF isn't as difficult though as Rabb said the balls dont slice as much and there easier to read but you need speed in CF to track all thoose balls down because a Jog dosent cut it.
October 22, 200817 yr I'm a Popeye fan all the way. Love his defense, whether in right or center. I think he offers some pop to the seven spot in the batting order. Willingham is q question mark health wise but is a solid performer when he can take the field everyday. The Marlins would not suffer unduly to have the two of them in the outfield.
October 22, 200817 yr Cody should start in front of Willingham. He is a better defender and is good with the bat. No reason he shouldnt Cody should start in front Hermida, in RF. exactly, Cody is the better fielder, and has just as good an arm. Put Hermida in left, give him ONE last chance, hopefully he takes advantage of it, but i doubt it You make me think you are a moron quite often. a moron? nice response but anyway, I know people see that Hermida has the better arm, but his lazy nature of getting to the ball makes it a lot harder to judge how good his arm is, because we never get to see him use it at 100% hustle. Cody had the least errors out of all our regular OF's last season, i see know reason why Cody shouldn't be starting in RF next season
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