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Things that need to happen for this team to be successful

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1. Hanley needs to leadoff again.

 

2. Dan Uggla needs to get his bat out of his ass.

 

3. Ricky Nolasco needs to get back to '08 form.

 

4. Trade for a starting pitcher.

1. Hanley needs to leadoff again.

 

2. Dan Uggla needs to get his bat out of his ass.

 

3. Ricky Nolasco needs to get back to '08 form.

 

4. Trade for a starting pitcher.

 

 

1. Hanley is better at the three spot, as long as the people ahead of him are getting on base.

 

2. Uggla has hit many balls hard, but some of his low stats have to do with bad luck.

 

3. Nolasco is in '08 form.

 

4. Tarding for a starting pitcher isn't a need just yet.

-Hermida needs to sacrifice a smidge of OBP for slugging

 

-Ross needs to stop being downright terrible

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1. Hanley needs to leadoff again.

 

2. Dan Uggla needs to get his bat out of his ass.

 

3. Ricky Nolasco needs to get back to '08 form.

 

4. Trade for a starting pitcher.

 

 

1. Hanley is better at the three spot, as long as the people ahead of him are getting on base.

 

2. Uggla has hit many balls hard, but some of his low stats have to do with bad luck.

 

3. Nolasco is in '08 form.

 

4. Tarding for a starting pitcher isn't a need just yet.

 

1. That's the problem.

 

2. Doesn't matter how hard he's hit them, they need to fall for hits.

 

3. He needs to get to mid '08 form.

 

4. It likely will be.

1. Hanley needs to leadoff again.

 

2. Dan Uggla needs to get his bat out of his ass.

 

3. Ricky Nolasco needs to get back to '08 form.

 

4. Trade for a starting pitcher.

 

 

1. Hanley is better at the three spot, as long as the people ahead of him are getting on base.

 

2. Uggla has hit many balls hard, but some of his low stats have to do with bad luck.

 

3. Nolasco is in '08 form.

 

4. Tarding for a starting pitcher isn't a need just yet.

 

1. That's the problem.

 

2. Doesn't matter how hard he's hit them, they need to fall for hits.

 

3. He needs to get to mid '08 form.

 

4. It likely will be.

 

 

1. They are getting on base more than the 8 and 9 hitters would.

 

2. They will eventually fall if he keeps on hitting them that hard. His bad luck will run out.

 

3. He will in mid '08.

 

4. Then wait until it happens.

Hanley needs to bat third for this team to be successful. Bonifacio will have his growing pains but he is coming out of his slump and is the ideal leadoff guy if he can get his OPS up. Bake should be hitting #2 because he has been successful there and let the new guy Coughlin try to contribute to the lower part of the order. The problem most of the year has been the lower part of the order. It seems no one can hit down there. We need Ugs to start find gaps, especially that gap over the fence. Cody needs to be Cody. Hermida needs to crap or get of the pot already. Of course without Nolasco getting back to any version of last years Ricky we can pack up the tent and call it a season. But assuming he does get better, and he must, I think that Marlins need to find a legitimate bottom of the rotation guy. A Mark Redman type circa 2003 that will give you a chance to win and finish with 10-12 wins and not lose more than that. It's scary right now. We need to start winning. But at least we have a few players slumping right now. That means that a bunch of guys are due for a hot streak.

Uggla needs to have balls fall in

Ross needs to hit his customary .800+ OPS

Nolasco needs to be solid

Bonifacio needs to visit New Orleans

Uggla needs to have balls fall in

Ross needs to hit his customary .800+ OPS

Nolasco needs to be solid

Bonifacio needs to visit New Orleans

 

Has some law been passed now that makes it illegal to not hate Emilio Bonifacio? Jeez, the amount of hate he gets here in relationship to the real slumpers like Uggla, Hermida, Ross & Nolasco is totally disproportionate. The guy's obviously improving (4 for 9 in Milwaukee) but it's still a case of "Send Bonifraudio/Bonifacio(ut) to New Orleans cos he's like the worst player ... like ... ever". Some people need to grow up.

The only difference, Jack, is that the likes of Uggla, Ross and Hermida have shown that they are capable of succeeding at the major league level, while Bonifacio really hasn't other than his unworldly first week of the season.

Has some law been passed now that makes it illegal to not hate Emilio Bonifacio? Jeez, the amount of hate he gets here in relationship to the real slumpers like Uggla, Hermida, Ross & Nolasco is totally disproportionate. The guy's obviously improving (4 for 9 in Milwaukee) but it's still a case of "Send Bonifraudio/Bonifacio(ut) to New Orleans cos he's like the worst player ... like ... ever". Some people need to grow up.

 

I have no hate for Bonifacio, I happen to think he has an idea of what to do, just doesn't yet know how to do it. He should have started the season in AAA to finish putting it together.

The only difference, Jack, is that the likes of Uggla, Ross and Hermida have shown that they are capable of succeeding at the major league level, while Bonifacio really hasn't other than his unworldly first week of the season.

 

 

You forgot the fact that Bonifacio hasn't really shown much at the minor league level, either...

1. Hanley needs to leadoff again.

 

2. Dan Uggla needs to get his bat out of his ass.

 

3. Ricky Nolasco needs to get back to '08 form.

 

4. Trade for a starting pitcher.

 

 

1. Hanley is better at the three spot, as long as the people ahead of him are getting on base.

 

2. Uggla has hit many balls hard, but some of his low stats have to do with bad luck.

 

3. Nolasco is in '08 form.

 

4. Tarding for a starting pitcher isn't a need just yet.

 

I love how this works two ways.

3. Ricky Nolasco needs to get back to '08 form.

Thing is he was pitching this same way at the start of '08. If you look at his game logs, they're eerily similar this year compared to last years'.

Uggla needs to have balls fall in

Ross needs to hit his customary .800+ OPS

Nolasco needs to be solid

Bonifacio needs to visit New Orleans

 

Has some law been passed now that makes it illegal to not hate Emilio Bonifacio? Jeez, the amount of hate he gets here in relationship to the real slumpers like Uggla, Hermida, Ross & Nolasco is totally disproportionate. The guy's obviously improving (4 for 9 in Milwaukee) but it's still a case of "Send Bonifraudio/Bonifacio(ut) to New Orleans cos he's like the worst player ... like ... ever". Some people need to grow up.

 

Actually, a 5 game hit streak going right now. You have a point. It's not exactly the right time to do some Boni-hating. Wait until he is in a slump or at least isn't doing as well as some of the guys that are loved here no matter how badly they are playing. But you have to remember, he beat out a BGB for that 3B job. The hate will continue for a while yet. Remember the hate filled posts about Cantu last year at this time? Different type hitters, but they came by that job identically.

3. Ricky Nolasco needs to get back to '08 form.

Thing is he was pitching this same way at the start of '08. If you look at his game logs, they're eerily similar this year compared to last years'.

Right, but I hoped that last season was when he figured it all out and that this season would be a continuation of that.... moreso than just "this is his usual slow start to a season"... though I guess that's a possibility too.

Uggla needs to have balls fall in

Ross needs to hit his customary .800+ OPS

Nolasco needs to be solid

Bonifacio needs to visit New Orleans

 

Has some law been passed now that makes it illegal to not hate Emilio Bonifacio? Jeez, the amount of hate he gets here in relationship to the real slumpers like Uggla, Hermida, Ross & Nolasco is totally disproportionate. The guy's obviously improving (4 for 9 in Milwaukee) but it's still a case of "Send Bonifraudio/Bonifacio(ut) to New Orleans cos he's like the worst player ... like ... ever". Some people need to grow up.

 

My problem with Bonifacio is that he stole the leadoff spot from Maybin after Maybin hit .500 there in September. In an ideal world, Maybin would have started the season hitting leadoff, produced to a respectable level .260-.270 and either Gaby Sanchez or Chris Coghlan would be playing at 3B, with Bonifacio on the bench as a utility player.

Only 4 ......

Dude the list of things the Marlins need to do is way longer than just 4.....

Please disregard this if your doing this list in 4 or 5 parts.....

Uggla needs to have balls fall in

Ross needs to hit his customary .800+ OPS

Nolasco needs to be solid

Bonifacio needs to visit New Orleans

 

Has some law been passed now that makes it illegal to not hate Emilio Bonifacio? Jeez, the amount of hate he gets here in relationship to the real slumpers like Uggla, Hermida, Ross & Nolasco is totally disproportionate. The guy's obviously improving (4 for 9 in Milwaukee) but it's still a case of "Send Bonifraudio/Bonifacio(ut) to New Orleans cos he's like the worst player ... like ... ever". Some people need to grow up.

 

My problem with Bonifacio is that he stole the leadoff spot from Maybin after Maybin hit .500 there in September. In an ideal world, Maybin would have started the season hitting leadoff, produced to a respectable level .260-.270 and either Gaby Sanchez or Chris Coghlan would be playing at 3B, with Bonifacio on the bench as a utility player.

He's doing as well as could be expected. He's a light hitting midget middle infielder that should be hitting 8th. It's not his fault the manager put him in whta is generally a power position (3B) leading-off. Just because the manager is a dummy doesn't mean his expectations should change.

 

Also, Maybin had more than half his plate appearances leading-off or hittign second so the "he's hitting 8th getting nothing to hit" excuse doesn't fly.

HANLEY NEEDS TO BAT 3rd NOT LEAD OFF EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS!

 

i saw a stat somewhere, when hitting first, you hit with runners on 33 percent of the time, hittign 3rd its 49 percent of the time. i think id rather have hanley hit with runners on half the time than a third.

The only difference, Jack, is that the likes of Uggla, Ross and Hermida have shown that they are capable of succeeding at the major league level, while Bonifacio really hasn't other than his unworldly first week of the season.

 

 

You forgot the fact that Bonifacio hasn't really shown much at the minor league level, either...

Except having the talent to make the Dacks' top prospects list, make all-star teams, bat .300 as a 21-year old in high A and 23-year old in AAA, and steal 40 bases 4 different times.

His career minor league average and on base percentage is similar to Hanley Ramirez, Dan Uggla, and Miguel Cabrera.

He may not be that talented, and his game may need some major work. But don't say he's undeserving of a chance. He has a history of success. Hopefully, for our sake and his, that continues that at the major league level.

Man we need divine intervention and Barry Bonds for Hermida. They bout at least will walk and can't field.

The only difference, Jack, is that the likes of Uggla, Ross and Hermida have shown that they are capable of succeeding at the major league level, while Bonifacio really hasn't other than his unworldly first week of the season.

 

 

You forgot the fact that Bonifacio hasn't really shown much at the minor league level, either...

Except having the talent to make the Dacks' top prospects list, make all-star teams, bat .300 as a 21-year old in high A and 23-year old in AAA, and steal 40 bases 4 different times.

His career minor league average and on base percentage is similar to Hanley Ramirez, Dan Uggla, and Miguel Cabrera.

He may not be that talented, and his game may need some major work. But don't say he's undeserving of a chance. He has a history of success. Hopefully, for our sake and his, that continues that at the major league level.

 

 

He had some great K/BB rates that really showed off his potential in the minors. :rolleyes:

 

I could care less about "batting average."

He had some great K/BB rates that really showed off his potential in the minors. :rolleyes:

 

I could care less about "batting average."

 

Do you care about On Base Percentage? Because you failed to acknowledge this fairly interesting statistical comparison:

 

Hanley Career Minor Leage OBP - .351

Emilio Career Minor Leage OBP - .341

 

K/BB is important, but so is getting on base.

 

The point is you said "he never showed much at the minor league level" and that is probably an exaggeration. The BB/K ratio is important, but it is definitely not the only way someone can 'show something' in the minors.

 

I agree with JRD that the EB hatred is over-the-top and often very sophomoric.

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