August 15, 200916 yr Lots of debate over in the 2009 NFL Thread so here is a place where everyone can post their thoughts on who will win each division and who will grab the wildcard places. AFC East - New England Patriots North - Pittsburgh Steelers South - Indianapolis Colts West - San Diego Chargers WC - Baltimore Ravens & Tennessee Titans NFC East - Philadelphia Eagles North - Green Bay Packers South - New Orleans Saints West - Arizona Cardinals WC - New York Giants & Minnesota Vikings
August 15, 200916 yr AFC East- Patriots North- Steelers South- Colts West- Chargers Wild card- Titans, Dolphins NFC East- Eagles North- Bears South- Falcons West- Cardinals Wild card- Packers, Giants Super Bowl- Patriots-Bears Champs- Patriots
August 15, 200916 yr AFC North- Steelers South- Colts East- Patriots West- Chargers WC- Ravens & Texans NFC North- Vikings South- Saints East- Eagles West- Cardinals WC- Giants & Bears
August 15, 200916 yr AFC East - New England Patriots North - Pittsburgh Steelers South - Indianapolis Colts West - San Diego Chargers WC - Houston Texans / New Jork Jets NFC East - Philadelphia Eagles North - Minnesota Vikings South - Atlanta Falcons West - Arizona Cardinals WC - New Orleans Saints / Washington Redskins
August 15, 200916 yr AFC East - New England Patriots North - Pittsburgh Steelers South - Indianapolis Colts West - San Diego Chargers WC - Miami Dolphins & Tennessee Titans NFC East - Philadelphia Eagles North - Green Bay Packers South - Atlanta Falcons West - Arizona Cardinals WC - New York Giants & Washington Redskins
August 15, 200916 yr AFC East - New England South - Indianapolis West - San Diego North - Pittsburgh WC - Miami and Houston NFC East - New York South - Carolina West - Arizona North - Chicago WC - Philadelphia and Washington
August 15, 200916 yr AFC East - Dolphins North - Steelers South - Colts West - Chargers WC - Patriots, Jaguars NFC East - Giants North - Vikings South - Falcons West - Cardinals WC - Panthers, Eagles Sorry to Titans, Ravens, Bears, Packers... :/
August 15, 200916 yr AFC East - Patriots North - Steelers South - Colts West - Chargers WC - Ravens, Dolphins/Titans (depends on things like injuries) NFC East - Giants North - Vikings South - Falcons West - Cardinals WC - Panthers, Eagles
August 16, 200916 yr AFC East- Dolphins, Patriots, Bills, Jets North- Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, Browns South- Titans, Colts, Texans, Jaguars West- Chargers, Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders WC- Colts and Patriots NFC East- Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins North- Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions South- Falcons, Panthers, Saints, Buccaneers West- Cardinals, Seahawks, 49ers, Rams WC- Eagles, Bears
August 16, 200916 yr AFC East - Dolphins North - Steelers South - Colts West - Chargers WC - Patriots, Jaguars NFC East - Giants North - Vikings South - Falcons West - Cardinals WC - Panthers, Eagles Sorry to Titans, Ravens, Bears, Packers... :/
August 17, 200916 yr AFC East - New England Patriots North - Pittsburgh Steelers South - Indianapolis Colts West - San Diego Chargers WC - Tennesse Titans/Denver Broncos NFC East - Philadelphia Eagles North - Chicago Bears South - New Orleans Saints West - Seattle Seahawks WC - Atlanta Falcons /Green Bay Packers Superbowl: Eagles v Patriots Pats win
August 17, 200916 yr AFC East - Dolphins North - Steelers South - Colts West - Raiders (yes crazy I know) WC - Jets, Ravens NFC East - Giants North - Vikings South - Falcons West - Cardinals WC - Panthers, Eagles
August 17, 200916 yr I'll wait until the end of the preseason to make my predictions for the season. Too many things can happen between now and then.
August 17, 200916 yr AFC East - New England Patriots North - Pittsburgh Steelers South - Indianapolis Colts West - San Diego Chargers WC - Baltimore Ravens & Oakland Raiders -------------------------------------------------------------------- NFC East - Philadelphia Eagles North - Green Bay Packers South - Atlanta Falcons West - Seattle Seahawks WC - Minnesota Vikings & New Orleans Saints
August 17, 200916 yr AFC East - New England South - Indianapolis West - San Diego North - Pittsburgh WC - Miami and Cincinnati NFC East - New York South - Carolina West - Arizona North - Chicago WC - Philadelphia and Atlanta
August 18, 200916 yr im guessing everyone who picked new england failed to see how awful their defense will be...and i mean really super duper awful granted alot can happen...but tom brady cant tackle anyone
August 18, 200916 yr im guessing everyone who picked new england failed to see how awful their defense will be...and i mean really super duper awful granted alot can happen...but tom brady cant tackle anyone It's not "awful." They still have the same front 3 (Warren, Wilfork, Seymour). LB's are still there, for the most part. (Mayo, Bruschi, Thomas)...they also brought back Tully Banta-Cain who has had success with them before. And their secondary...1 corner is Ellis Hobbs who's been there for awhile...the other will probably be Leigh Bodden. And James Sanders and Brandon Meriweather (from the U) is a solid safety tandem. Awful? I think not. Then again, if I were a Dolphins fan, I'd want to believe that, as well. That defense is certainly good enough to win a lot of games, as well, considering the support they'll receive from their offense. By the way, the Dolphins defense is by no means "great." And their offense sure as hell isn't as good as New England's.
August 18, 200916 yr Yea, the Dolphins defense isn't that great. Our rush D is pretty good, but our secondary had problems last season. But, I still think our defense is better than the Pats D.
August 18, 200916 yr im guessing everyone who picked new england failed to see how awful their defense will be...and i mean really super duper awful granted alot can happen...but tom brady cant tackle anyone It's not "awful." They still have the same front 3 (Warren, Wilfork, Seymour). LB's are still there, for the most part. (Mayo, Bruschi, Thomas)...they also brought back Tully Banta-Cain who has had success with them before. And their secondary...1 corner is Ellis Hobbs who's been there for awhile...the other will probably be Leigh Bodden. And James Sanders and Brandon Meriweather (from the U) is a solid safety tandem. Awful? I think not. Then again, if I were a Dolphins fan, I'd want to believe that, as well. That defense is certainly good enough to win a lot of games, as well, considering the support they'll receive from their offense. By the way, the Dolphins defense is by no means "great." And their offense sure as hell isn't as good as New England's. They have Shawn Springs (severely underrated, but injury prone CB) as their #1 CB, they added a solid serviceable LB in Derrick Burgess, and I'm being a homer but a very solid rookie LB in Tyrone McKenzie (USF Bull). So, they should field an average (by NFL standards) defense.
August 18, 200916 yr Dolphins D was very underrated last year and I predict a top 5 finish this year. First pre-season game and they looked awfully solid. I mean they improved that Defense a LOT. And their Offense was surprisingly outstanding last year, sans maybe the running game, which should get better with a more experienced line this year.
August 18, 200916 yr Yea, I'm expecting alot, too. If Cameron Wake and JT can rush the passer effectively, freeing up JP, watch out. I also read that CC might rush the passer a bit as well, so we might have a very, very dangerous pass rush this season, taking pressure off our secondary.
August 18, 200916 yr im guessing everyone who picked new england failed to see how awful their defense will be...and i mean really super duper awful granted alot can happen...but tom brady cant tackle anyone It's not "awful." They still have the same front 3 (Warren, Wilfork, Seymour). LB's are still there, for the most part. (Mayo, Bruschi, Thomas)...they also brought back Tully Banta-Cain who has had success with them before. And their secondary...1 corner is Ellis Hobbs who's been there for awhile...the other will probably be Leigh Bodden. And James Sanders and Brandon Meriweather (from the U) is a solid safety tandem. Awful? I think not. Then again, if I were a Dolphins fan, I'd want to believe that, as well. That defense is certainly good enough to win a lot of games, as well, considering the support they'll receive from their offense. By the way, the Dolphins defense is by no means "great." And their offense sure as hell isn't as good as New England's. They have Shawn Springs (severely underrated, but injury prone CB) as their #1 CB, they added a solid serviceable LB in Derrick Burgess, and I'm being a homer but a very solid rookie LB in Tyrone McKenzie (USF Bull). So, they should field an average (by NFL standards) defense. ESPN doesn't have updated rosters, do they? I ask b/c I checked ESPN for my post, and none of those guys are on the depth chart. Then again, Jason Taylor isn't on the Dolphins depth chart either, so yeah.
August 18, 200916 yr Yea, I'm expecting alot, too. If Cameron Wake and JT can rush the passer effectively, freeing up JP, watch out. I also read that CC might rush the passer a bit as well, so we might have a very, very dangerous pass rush this season, taking pressure off our secondary. It's well known I'm not a Dolphin fan, but to be fair...their secondary improved, as well, with the draft. I don't think they'll be bad this year, although I don't see them repeating what they did last year because... 1. New England is tougher this year...Tom Brady is still the man. 2. I think the Wildcat offense gets figured out, at some point. I also think the AFC East might be the best division in football, as well. If it's not, it's 2nd to the NFC East.
August 18, 200916 yr The secondary did improve, but we still don't know yet. Sean Smith and Vontae Davis can be busts, and Eric Green is nothing special. Adding Gibril Wilson, though, was a fantastic move. I loved it. AFC East isn't as tough as many think. The Bills, IMO, will struggle this season. I don't see them competeing. And I'm not scared of the Jets. No Receivers+No QB= Epic Fail. Their defense can be a Top 5 defense, but their Offense will doom them.
August 18, 200916 yr Author Yea, I'm expecting alot, too. If Cameron Wake and JT can rush the passer effectively, freeing up JP, watch out. I also read that CC might rush the passer a bit as well, so we might have a very, very dangerous pass rush this season, taking pressure off our secondary. It's well known I'm not a Dolphin fan, but to be fair...their secondary improved, as well, with the draft. I don't think they'll be bad this year, although I don't see them repeating what they did last year because... 1. New England is tougher this year...Tom Brady is still the man. 2. I think the Wildcat offense gets figured out, at some point. I also think the AFC East might be the best division in football, as well. If it's not, it's 2nd to the NFC East. I'd like to throw the NFC South into the mix for the best division. Saints and Falcons are exciting teams, Panthers are solid, and while many pundits are writing off the Buccs, I think they will suprise a lot of people despite the new management such as Atlanta did last year.
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