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love the orange bowl letters idea. the grooms marlins homerun thing can work if it has craploads of lights and lazers and sh!t. still on the fence about that though

The "Miami Orange Bowl" letters are a brilliant idea and a great way to honor the history of the stadium grounds. It would be a nice touch to have the "W" lit up after Marlins wins, kind of like the Cubs W flag at Wrigley.

The "Miami Orange Bowl" letters are a brilliant idea and a great way to honor the history of the stadium grounds. It would be a nice touch to have the "W" lit up after Marlins wins, kind of like the Cubs W flag at Wrigley.

 

the letters can spell diffrent things, such as orange bowl, and game won.

everything but the Grooms work is amazing.

I like the Orange Bowl letters. That's actually a nice aesthetic touch.

 

That Red Grooms thing is an absolute monstrosity.

I like the Orange Bowl letters. That's actually a nice aesthetic touch.

 

That Red Grooms thing is an absolute monstrosity.

 

 

I'll second that.

 

Love the OB letters layout, my only beef is that it's on the wrong side of the ballpark. If the concept is supposed to be that they "fell off the old stadium", then they should be on the west plaza, not the east. This drawing places them on what was the open end of the OB.

The "Miami Orange Bowl" letters are a brilliant idea and a great way to honor the history of the stadium grounds. It would be a nice touch to have the "W" lit up after Marlins wins, kind of like the Cubs W flag at Wrigley.

 

 

That's a great idea. Extend it on to the "O" and "N". You should send that thought on to Samson. He's very accomodating when it comes to emails.

I like the Orange Bowl letters. That's actually a nice aesthetic touch.

 

That Red Grooms thing is an absolute monstrosity.

 

 

I'll second that.

 

Love the OB letters layout, my only beef is that it's on the wrong side of the ballpark. If the concept is supposed to be that they "fell off the old stadium", then they should be on the west plaza, not the east. This drawing places them on what was the open end of the OB.

 

Okay. If we are going to be so picky....

 

A "Hurricane" blew them off the old stadium and over to that side.

 

That better?

The stadium is going to be awesome and this art stuff makes the stadium alot more intresting.

So it looks like Daniel Arsham did the letters outside of the stadium. He will also be doing an exterior lighting installation. He's actually a pretty damn good artist. I've heard of him and have seen pictures of his work (I've never been to a gallery of his). I am pleased with this selection and think Loria made a good choice.

 

I've never heard of Carlos Cruz-Diez but having looked up his work, I'm not terribly optimistic. He's supposed to be installing a series of multi-colored walkways. I don't think that is a wise artistic choice for this stadium for the same reason I loathe the Grooms' piece.

 

Arsham's modernism is more in tune with the aesthetic of the stadium than the work of Grooms and Cruz-Diez is. I have no idea why Loria is obsessed with the rainbow color scheme.

I have no idea why Loria is obsessed with the rainbow color scheme.

 

It's design appears to be based on the work of Gaudi. It almost looks like it could have been designed by Gaudi, if he was still alive.

Loria did spend some time in Barcelona recently. He's evidently a fan.

I have no idea why Loria is obsessed with the rainbow color scheme.

 

It's design appears to be based on the work of Gaudi. It almost looks like it could have been designed by Gaudi, if he was still alive.

Loria did spend some time in Barcelona recently. He's evidently a fan.

 

If anything I think Grooms and Gaudi have similar taste, but Carlos Cruz-Diez is very modern and does a lot of spectrum art. I think Cruz-Diez fits very well into the stadium and if it is anything like I think it will be, it will be pretty cool.

 

I assume each lot will have a color and the dominate color of that lot will "mis-mash" with the other lines and colors, but you will always know which way you were going. I

By supporting the Tampa Bay Bucs, I support the team with the coolest stadium in the NFL (pirate ship!!!). And soon it seems like the Marlins will have the coolest stadium in MLB.

 

This I like!

I like the Orange Bowl letters. That's actually a nice aesthetic touch.

 

That Red Grooms thing is an absolute monstrosity.

 

 

I'll second that.

 

Love the OB letters layout, my only beef is that it's on the wrong side of the ballpark. If the concept is supposed to be that they "fell off the old stadium", then they should be on the west plaza, not the east. This drawing places them on what was the open end of the OB.

 

Okay. If we are going to be so picky....

 

A "Hurricane" blew them off the old stadium and over to that side.

 

That better?

 

 

Works for me lol

The "Miami Orange Bowl" letters are a brilliant idea and a great way to honor the history of the stadium grounds. It would be a nice touch to have the "W" lit up after Marlins wins, kind of like the Cubs W flag at Wrigley.

 

the letters can spell diffrent things, such as orange bowl, and game won.

Is it bad that I originally read it as "game won"?

Man, those letters are really cool.

I like the Orange Bowl letters. That's actually a nice aesthetic touch.

 

That Red Grooms thing is an absolute monstrosity.

 

 

I'll second that.

 

Love the OB letters layout, my only beef is that it's on the wrong side of the ballpark. If the concept is supposed to be that they "fell off the old stadium", then they should be on the west plaza, not the east. This drawing places them on what was the open end of the OB.

 

Okay. If we are going to be so picky....

 

A "Hurricane" blew them off the old stadium and over to that side.

 

That better?

 

But then how did they all land so close together? And howcome they didn't shatter into a million pieces when they hit the ground?

I like the Orange Bowl letters. That's actually a nice aesthetic touch.

 

That Red Grooms thing is an absolute monstrosity.

 

 

I'll second that.

 

Love the OB letters layout, my only beef is that it's on the wrong side of the ballpark. If the concept is supposed to be that they "fell off the old stadium", then they should be on the west plaza, not the east. This drawing places them on what was the open end of the OB.

 

Okay. If we are going to be so picky....

 

A "Hurricane" blew them off the old stadium and over to that side.

 

That better?

 

But then how did they all land so close together? And howcome they didn't shatter into a million pieces when they hit the ground?

 

They landed on "Gators".

 

FYI Not a fan of either college team. Just trying to help out the imagination-challenged among us.

Why do I have a feeling people are going to dress way too nice to go to games in the new stadium?

 

 

Funny you should say that. We always get a kick out of people that do that. Like they are trying to impress somebody at a sporting event. Of course it is a double-edged sword. At least they are at the games. If females want to wear short skirts and high heels to sit in the stands, who am I to argue?

Why do I have a feeling people are going to dress way too nice to go to games in the new stadium?

 

 

Funny you should say that. We always get a kick out of people that do that. Like they are trying to impress somebody at a sporting event. Of course it is a double-edged sword. At least they are at the games. If females want to wear short skirts and high heels to sit in the stands, who am I to argue?

 

Remember, Loria and the Marlins want the new stadium to play into the "Event" mentality of So. FL, so I'm expecting even more "see and be seen" types than currently, especially being closer to the population center. It certainly is going to be an interesting mix.

 

As far as these pictures, I agree with everyone' thoughts on the Orange Bowl letters- a great way to pay tribute to the history on the site but also be an interesting aesthetic addition. Has anyone heard if they're still going to incorporate the OB scoreboard facade into the stadium at all? Back when they were doing the demo work, I remember there being an article on the marlins.com website where Sampson said they donate the actual scoreboard to a highschool, but kept the facade (the one that said "Welcome to the Historic Orange Bowl"); he said they planned to incorporate it into the stadium design to pay tribute. Perhaps in the concourse? I also recall in the same article they planned on having a mini museum playing up the history there.

 

I also agree with most people's take on the home run CF installation. I don't personally have anything against the design of it; in fact, I think it's kind of neat to have a giant recreation of the early 1900's mechanical arcarde and carnival games. Howevcer, it's extremely out of place with the design of the stadium and the rest of the art that will be present. It doesn't fit in any way any design aesthetic in Miami, nor does it have any connection whatsoever to baeball or the MArlins (to me, the dominate features are the pelicans and seagulls). This would be far more at home in the nouveau retro stadiums of the last 10 or 20 years like Camden Yards or Busch Stadium.

 

I don't have an opinion one way or the other on the walkways. I figure it could make you kind of dizzy walking on them.

 

What I'm trying to do is try and gleam what color palete the Marlins will be using from these pcitures. I've pretty much given up on any chance of my beloved teal surviving. We've all read Loria's comments about teal and wanting a whole new identity, and several letters I've written to him and Sampson about saving the teal have not been returned. That being said, the dominate color scheme in the CF feature appears to be sea blue and almost magenta. The OB letters and the dominate color in those walkways are of course orange (though there does appear to be teal as well).

There is not one park in MLB where that contraption would "fit."

 

I especially don't think that it would fit in Camden Yards. The beauty of OPACY is that it is a "no frills" venue, despite being a "new" stadium. It pays tribute to the blue collar and indsutrial history of Baltimore by featuring the warehouse and that's mostly it. My biggest complaint is that the seating layout is the worst of any MLB park I've been to (arguably worse than Fenway's) but that has nothing to do with aesthetics.

 

I also think it is very "big" in the corridors and it feels odd when you walk through the stadium concourse. I also think the tribute outside the park player numbers is a little blah and doesn't have a nice feel. Nationals Park isn't much better. When you enter through the outfield entrance it is just too open and doesn't feel like a ballpark. It feels more like an outdoor shopping mall. I would take National Park over Camden Yards---I also think if they develop the whole Navy Yard area it would be a really nice area (not sure if they have last time I was there was beginning of 08 season).

There is not one park in MLB where that contraption would "fit."

 

I especially don't think that it would fit in Camden Yards. The beauty of OPACY is that it is a "no frills" venue, despite being a "new" stadium. It pays tribute to the blue collar and indsutrial history of Baltimore by featuring the warehouse and that's mostly it. My biggest complaint is that the seating layout is the worst of any MLB park I've been to (arguably worse than Fenway's) but that has nothing to do with aesthetics.

 

I also think it is very "big" in the corridors and it feels odd when you walk through the stadium concourse. I also think the tribute outside the park player numbers is a little blah and doesn't have a nice feel. Nationals Park isn't much better. When you enter through the outfield entrance it is just too open and doesn't feel like a ballpark. It feels more like an outdoor shopping mall. I would take National Park over Camden Yards---I also think if they develop the whole Navy Yard area it would be a really nice area (not sure if they have last time I was there was beginning of 08 season).

 

Nationals Park should be the model for the Marlins' ballpark as far as aesthetics go IMO. I went there this past September(ended up with Hanley's 99th career HR ball, thanks Lindstrom!) and I was impressed. Modern and sleek but nothing over the top. It has some weirdish art too, those statues at the center field entrance saluting the DC players from years past, but they still mesh nicely with the design of the park. They're bronze(I think) so they don't stand out too much, unlike the seizure inducing calamity proposed for our center field. I hope at the very least it gets toned down.

 

In the end regardless of the crazy art installations and potentially horrible uniforms, I'm sure I'm gonna love the new place because I've only seen baseball in 4 venues(The Shark, Tropicana Field, Shea and Nationals Park) and from the looks of it ours will easily be the best I've ever been to.

honestly i would be quite content with just the marlins teal logo popping up. im not an artist but u get the point lol.

The letters are FUNKY! :mischief