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Nfl free agency

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Brandon Marshall isn't going to be a Miami Dolphin, that much is certain. His character is something Parcells and company don't want on this team, and I remember a source saying that he heard somebody within the Miami organization say they don't want to deal "with somebody elses problem".

 

We want to keep that #12 pick. I mean, I'd want to keep it with guys like Earl Thomas, Dez Bryant, Brandon Graham, and Rolando McClain most likely going to be on the board.

 

If we can't get Bryant, my 2nd player that I would want would be Brandon Graham. I've changed my mind on McClain, simply because I'd rather not move Dansby to OLB. Graham is an absolute monster. He really was held back because of how bad the rest of the defense was around him. He proved just how good he was at the Senior Bowl. Graham probably has the biggest motor out of anybody in this draft, and he stepped up as the season went along.

 

But again, I want Dez Bryant. I'm praying the Browns and Broncos pass on him (doubtful), but if we can get him, we finally have ourselves a #1 WR.

 

As for free agency, if I could choose any safety, I'd want Atogwe. He is probably the most underrated safety in the entire league. However, like I said, Ryan Clark is very good in his own right, and I wouldn't be upset at all if Clark was a Dolphin.

 

I'd like to give props to Stephen Ross, I'm so happy we have an owner who is has such a drive to win that he will pay a bit of money to help improve this team.

 

 

 

If they don't want Marshall, then they're definitely not going to draft Bryant. Using "character issues" as the excuse to not want to give up the first-round pick would be hypocritical. And if they had to choose between Marshall and Bryant by their talent alone, they would take Marshall without a doubt.

 

 

Dez Bryant's "character issues" are that he is lazy. Brandon Marshall's is that he is a cancer inside the clubhouse. Big difference, as Bryant hasn't had any rifts with any teammates or coaches he's every had or been with.

 

Like I've said before, Dez Bryant's "character issues" are about as much BS as Vontae Davis' "character issues". Immaturity shouldn't be a reason not to draft a #1 WR.

 

 

That is true. Last year everyone made Davis's issues much bigger than they were. That is why he fell to us. I wouldn't be suprised if the same happens to Bryant.

Also suspended for the first eight games of the 2010 season is Miami Dolphins unrestricted free-agent nose tackle Jason Ferguson, who was placed on injured reserve Nov. 23 and underwent quadriceps surgery. Ferguson, 35, is also believed to have been suspended for violating the performance enhancing drugs policy, under which he was suspended four games in 1999.

 

Huge blow. Now we know a new NT will be playing for Miami next year.

I've heard Sharper's name, Otogwe's name and Clark's name linked to Miami. If we sign one of them, we will be the most improved team in the AFC east without a doubt.

 

Also, we re-signed Chad Pennington, but wouldn't give him a no trade clause. Something is happening.

 

 

Getting a little ahead of ourselves, are we? There's a long offseason yet to go, including the draft. And even with one of those guys, you're still worse than the Jets on paper on both sides of the ball.

 

He never said it would make the Dolphins better than the Jets. He said it would make the Fins the most improved team in the East.

 

I'm well aware what he said. I addressed it, and I made an additional point of my own. Thanks, though.

 

If you were well aware of what I said, then why did you put words in my mouth? I didn't say we were better than you on with those two guys, I said we would be the most improved.

 

But now that you say it, it will make us better than you. You're secondary is hurting. Only threat is Revis. The other corners, especially Cromartie, will be attacked. You're front of 7 is dominant, though. I will give you that. On offense, I think we top the Jets. Better running game and better QB. The QB position is debateable, though.

 

 

He didn't put your words in your mouth. You said getting those 2 guys would make the Dolphins the most improved team in the AFC East, when the offseason just started. The draft is still a month and a half away, and you're already making "most improved team" comments.

 

By the way, I don't know what you're talking about, but Antonio Cromartie is a pretty solid corner, capable of making big plays.

 

And Mark Sanchez took his team to the AFC Championship game as a rookie, so really the QB position isn't all that debatable, at this point.

I've heard Sharper's name, Otogwe's name and Clark's name linked to Miami. If we sign one of them, we will be the most improved team in the AFC east without a doubt.

 

Also, we re-signed Chad Pennington, but wouldn't give him a no trade clause. Something is happening.

 

 

Getting a little ahead of ourselves, are we? There's a long offseason yet to go, including the draft. And even with one of those guys, you're still worse than the Jets on paper on both sides of the ball.

 

He never said it would make the Dolphins better than the Jets. He said it would make the Fins the most improved team in the East.

 

I'm well aware what he said. I addressed it, and I made an additional point of my own. Thanks, though.

 

If you were well aware of what I said, then why did you put words in my mouth? I didn't say we were better than you on with those two guys, I said we would be the most improved.

 

But now that you say it, it will make us better than you. You're secondary is hurting. Only threat is Revis. The other corners, especially Cromartie, will be attacked. You're front of 7 is dominant, though. I will give you that. On offense, I think we top the Jets. Better running game and better QB. The QB position is debateable, though.

 

Uh, I didn't put words in your mouth.

 

You said it would make you most improved. I said "Getting a little ahead of ourselves, are we? There's a long offseason to go, including the draft." That was addressing your claim. Maybe you'd be most improved up to that point (in fact you probably would be), but there still is a long time before the regular season. Restricted free gents haven't even been signed yet or anything.

 

Then, as a separate point, I said "And even with one of those guys, you're still worse than the Jets on paper on both sides of the ball." This was partially what I feel is a factual observation, and partially a rib at a fan of my team's rival.

 

As for the actual analysis. Cromartie is better than Lito Sheppard, so that's an improvement. This Kerry Rhodes business is weird, but he wasn't great last year. So, we were the #1 defense last year (in yards AND points against), we improved at least a bit at corner, and we lost our worst starter. Also, Kris Jenkins should be back, and he's dominant. So last year's best defense should be better. We're easily better on defense.

 

On offense, I agree that QB is a toss-up. You do not have a better running game; at best, it's close. The Jets lead the league in rushing last year. Also, despite being a run-first team, we still averaged more yards-per-carry than you, and we had fewer fumbles lost in more attempts. So we were better last year. And I think we will actually improve next year since Shonn Greene is better than Thomas Jones at this point in their careers, and we lost Leon Washington for a good chunk of last year but he's healthy now.

 

Fasano struggled last year, and Keller had better numbers across the board, so you don't have an edge there either. And I'll take Braylon Edwards + Jerricho Cotchery over Greg Camarillo and Davone Bess.

 

The Dolphins have a better pass rush, and we certainly can't take away your two victories last year, but at least on paper, the Jets are stronger on both sides of the ball.

 

 

He didn't put your words in your mouth. You said getting those 2 guys would make the Dolphins the most improved team in the AFC East, when the offseason just started. The draft is still a month and a half away, and you're already making "most improved team" comments.

 

By the way, I don't know what you're talking about, but Antonio Cromartie is a pretty solid corner, capable of making big plays.

 

And Mark Sanchez took his team to the AFC Championship game as a rookie, so really the QB position isn't all that debatable, at this point.

 

He didn't put words in my mouth, but he did change what I said. What I said was signing Clark/Otogwe along with the signing of Dansby will make us the most improved team in the AFC East. I obviously meant that as in RIGHT NOW, TODAY. Sure, alot can change. But with those signings, we are the most improved team.

 

Cromartie isn't good. He's extremely overrated. Soft, blows coverages, lazy. He's not a good player, and teams will pick on him.

 

Mark Sanchez didn't play better than Henne, though. He had better receivers and a better option at Tight End, but he didn't play better than Henne. The QB position is defenitely debatle, and in favor of Henne at this point. When you play solid with Ginn as your #1 receiver, you're good.

 

Uh, I didn't put words in your mouth.

 

You said it would make you most improved. I said "Getting a little ahead of ourselves, are we? There's a long offseason to go, including the draft." That was addressing your claim. Maybe you'd be most improved up to that point (in fact you probably would be), but there still is a long time before the regular season. Restricted free gents haven't even been signed yet or anything.

 

Then, as a separate point, I said "And even with one of those guys, you're still worse than the Jets on paper on both sides of the ball." This was partially what I feel is a factual observation, and partially a rib at a fan of my team's rival.

 

As for the actual analysis. Cromartie is better than Lito Sheppard, so that's an improvement. This Kerry Rhodes business is weird, but he wasn't great last year. So, we were the #1 defense last year (in yards AND points against), we improved at least a bit at corner, and we lost our worst starter. Also, Kris Jenkins should be back, and he's dominant. So last year's best defense should be better. We're easily better on defense.

 

On offense, I agree that QB is a toss-up. You do not have a better running game; at best, it's close. The Jets lead the league in rushing last year. Also, despite being a run-first team, we still averaged more yards-per-carry than you, and we had fewer fumbles lost in more attempts. So we were better last year. And I think we will actually improve next year since Shonn Greene is better than Thomas Jones at this point in their careers, and we lost Leon Washington for a good chunk of last year but he's healthy now.

 

Fasano struggled last year, and Keller had better numbers across the board, so you don't have an edge there either. And I'll take Braylon Edwards + Jerricho Cotchery over Greg Camarillo and Davone Bess.

 

The Dolphins have a better pass rush, and we certainly can't take away your two victories last year, but at least on paper, the Jets are stronger on both sides of the ball.

 

 

That bolded part is exactly what I meant.

 

If there is an improvemant over sheppard, it's not by much. Losing Rhodes hurts your secondary alot. All I'm worried about now is Revis, and all I'm focusing on is attacking Cromartie if I'm the Dolphins.

 

We do have a better running game. You pull out the stats, but you have to remember, we lost Ronnie Brown for a good portion of the year. When he was playing, the Dolphins were the number one running team in the league. And the Jets only got worse in the running game losing Thomas Jones. Shonn Green could be an animal next year, but he is not going to out produce our tandem.

 

Agreed. Your receivers and Tight End top ours.

 

I'm not so sure the Dolphins have a better pass rush. We lost Porter(wasn't very good, but still) and Taylor is a FA. I will give the Jets the defensive side of the ball. But on offense, I think it's miami. Our running game gives us the edge, imo.

^ lol

 

Eagles fans should be extremely dissapointed. They had a chance at Kampan or Peppers and came away with none. And on top of that they released Will Weatherspoon. Not a productive offseason for them thus far.

It should be mentioned that former Steelers FS Ryan Clark has landed in Miami and is expected to be working on a deal with the Dolphins tonight. Hopefully we can get this signing done, as it would eliminate another need. If this gets done, our major needs will then be WR, NT, OLB, TE. We will have other needs, but these will be the main focus.

 

 

He didn't put your words in your mouth. You said getting those 2 guys would make the Dolphins the most improved team in the AFC East, when the offseason just started. The draft is still a month and a half away, and you're already making "most improved team" comments.

 

By the way, I don't know what you're talking about, but Antonio Cromartie is a pretty solid corner, capable of making big plays.

 

And Mark Sanchez took his team to the AFC Championship game as a rookie, so really the QB position isn't all that debatable, at this point.

 

He didn't put words in my mouth, but he did change what I said. What I said was signing Clark/Otogwe along with the signing of Dansby will make us the most improved team in the AFC East. I obviously meant that as in RIGHT NOW, TODAY. Sure, alot can change. But with those signings, we are the most improved team.

 

Cromartie isn't good. He's extremely overrated. Soft, blows coverages, lazy. He's not a good player, and teams will pick on him.

 

Mark Sanchez didn't play better than Henne, though. He had better receivers and a better option at Tight End, but he didn't play better than Henne. The QB position is defenitely debatle, and in favor of Henne at this point. When you play solid with Ginn as your #1 receiver, you're good.

 

 

Cromartie is a rich man's CB version of Ted Ginn. He should be better with the Jets though since he has Revis across the field from him.

 

Also, the Dolphin's receivers weren't that much worse (if at all), and Dustin Keller is not a good TE.

I'm not sure why you don't like Keller; I think he has a good bit of upside. But he was better than Fasano last year, or at least he had better stats despite being on a run-first team and despite quarterback play that was probably somewhat weaker for large chunks of the regular season.

 

FWIW, I don't think the Jets' receivers are significantly better than the Dolphins, but I give them the slight edge. I certainly wouldn't call someone crazy for arguing the opposite.

I'm not sure why you don't like Keller; I think he has a good bit of upside. But he was better than Fasano last year, or at least he had better stats despite being on a run-first team and despite quarterback play that was probably somewhat weaker for large chunks of the regular season.

If anything, playing with a mediocre quarterback should help a TEs numbers, theoretically. It's a lot easier to throw in the middle of the field than to the sides. A lot of teams with rookie or inexperienced QBs have good TE play.

I'm not sure why you don't like Keller; I think he has a good bit of upside. But he was better than Fasano last year, or at least he had better stats despite being on a run-first team and despite quarterback play that was probably somewhat weaker for large chunks of the regular season.

If anything, playing with a mediocre quarterback should help a TEs numbers, theoretically. It's a lot easier to throw in the middle of the field than to the sides. A lot of teams with rookie or inexperienced QBs have good TE play.

 

Fair point; I dig the analysis. I think Fasano is better right now, but I see a good bit of upside with Keller (unrelated to how he compares with Fasano). Interestingly, they are both the same age, but Fasano has a couple of years more experience already.

I'm not sure why you don't like Keller; I think he has a good bit of upside. But he was better than Fasano last year, or at least he had better stats despite being on a run-first team and despite quarterback play that was probably somewhat weaker for large chunks of the regular season.

If anything, playing with a mediocre quarterback should help a TEs numbers, theoretically. It's a lot easier to throw in the middle of the field than to the sides. A lot of teams with rookie or inexperienced QBs have good TE play.

 

Fair point; I dig the analysis. I think Fasano is better right now, but I see a good bit of upside with Keller (unrelated to how he compares with Fasano). Interestingly, they are both the same age, but Fasano has a couple of years more experience already.

 

I think if you look at the Dolphins vs. Jets right now, it stacks up as this:

 

The Dolphins have a top 5-7 O-Line, the Jets have a top 3. Advantage Jets.

Chad Henne is more ready to be a capable NFL quarterback right now than Mark Sanchez. But Sanchez has a higher ceiling, though I don't think it is significantly higher. Advantage Dolphins (but they are really close in these two categories).

The runningbacks on both teams are going to be consistently overrated because of the O-Lines they run behind. Edge Jets, but I really don't think Leon Washington or Shonn Greene are every day backs on a team with an average line.

Receiving is an edge for the Jets, but it's not huge. Edwards isn't a #1, despite having every possible tool.

The Jets have an edge on defense, to be sure. But who knows how long they can keep their guys together, with having a QB making top money, a LT making top money, and Revis on the verge of some huge money.

 

The Jets are further along with their rebuilding, but they don't look like an immediate Super Bowl contender to me, as long as they lack the passing game. If Sanchez takes a step, or if Edwards remembers how to catch the ball, then you're talking some big things.

 

The question for them is whether the young QB develops in time for them to keep the O-Line and Defense together and under the cap. If the Sanchize doesn't show up for 3 years, they might be left with a lot of holes. I'm not convinced he's going to develop quickly.

 

For the Dolphins, it's all about whether Parcells can put together a young defense in the next couple of years and build around a core of veterans.

I disagree with the Jets having a better rushing attack than Miami. The Dolphins have better running backs with an elite line to block. While the Jets have a better line, they're running backs aren't as talented as ours are.

Ricky is the most talented back of the group IMO, but he's getting up there in age, and Ronnie Brown is such a tremendous injury risk.

 

I do think Greene is capable of being an every-down back with an average O-line. I think he's quite explosive and pretty tough, even if he lacks awesome breakaway speed. He reminds me of MJD, but it's over an admittedly small sample. Still, he was getting bursts when Jones was struggling later on in the season.

Ricky is 34 and Ronnie Brown is a bit injury prone(although his injuries are freak injuries not recurring injuries), but I still don't think Washington and Green can out produce Brown and Williams. With them two splitting carries, they are one of the best duos in the league.

 

Also, On twitter Mike Berardino reported that Ryan Clark finished his physical and is touring the stadium.

And Mark Sanchez took his team to the AFC Championship game as a rookie, so really the QB position isn't all that debatable, at this point.

 

You're just saying this to get a rise out of Dolphans, right? That's like saying Rex Grossman took the Bears to the Super Bowl a few years back.

 

The Jets defense and running game took them to the AFC Championship, Sanchez went along for the ride.

Sanchez did step up in the playoffs, though. Like, I kept expecting him to do something to screw the Jets over, yet he kept proving me wrong. POS.

Goddamnit, now we have to set our sights on Sharper, although he is without a doubt going to resign with New Orleans. After that fails, we've got to look at OJ Atogwe. Atogwe was my favorite free agent safety in this class, so I'd be absolutely thrilled to get him.

 

However, if we fail to get either of these guys, we will then have to maybe look to make an offer to Atari Bigby (would cost us a 2nd round pick).

 

In the end, what I am saying is, we will most likely have to look into the draft to get our next starting FS, and Earl Thomas out of Texas seems like the most obvious option at the #12 selection.

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