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An Incredibly Cute Article on the Marlins

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http://bleacherrepor...o-heat-dolphins

 

A comparison of the Marlins, the Heat and that great team that hasn't won in 30 years! This has got to be the absolute worst article I have ever read. What do you guys think? I mean, it's one thing to criticize this front office for penny-pinching (which I have done before) but it's another thing to say things that simply aren't true.

http://bleacherrepor...o-heat-dolphins

 

A comparison of the Marlins, the Heat and that great team that hasn't won in 30 years! This has got to be the absolute worst article I have ever read. What do you guys think? I mean, it's one thing to criticize this front office for penny-pinching (which I have done before) but it's another thing to say things that simply aren't true.

 

 

I dont think it matters if the Dolphins haven't won anything in a while...they've been around the longest and for awhile were the only thing Miami had to offer. That's why they'll always be #1.

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http://bleacherrepor...o-heat-dolphins

 

A comparison of the Marlins, the Heat and that great team that hasn't won in 30 years! This has got to be the absolute worst article I have ever read. What do you guys think? I mean, it's one thing to criticize this front office for penny-pinching (which I have done before) but it's another thing to say things that simply aren't true.

 

 

I dont think it matters if the Dolphins haven't won anything in a while...they've been around the longest and for awhile were the only thing Miami had to offer. That's why they'll always be #1.

 

 

The article isn't really a ranking of the teams, but rather some dude arguing that the Marlins are third place because the front office is incompetent.

Didn't read the article but as far as fan interest it's the Dolphins and then the Marlins and then the Heat. I haven't seen the TV ratings lately but in past years the Marlins ratings blew away the Heat ratings. But unfortunately among the local radio hosts and sports columnists it's all just Dolphins and Heat so there's no Marlins coverage except for the beat writers and they are not good at all.

What is the article is not true?

 

Loria traded away a HOFer because he was too stupid to lock him up early - like TB did with Longoria - and too cheap to pay the market rate later and got NOTHING for that HOF except payroll relief.

 

If the Marlins had not dumped Olsen and Willingham for nothing (Bonifacio) after 2008, they would have made the playoffs last year with Josh in LF, Cogs at 3B and Cantu remaining at 1B. And they took a million and half savings rather than keep Arthur Rhodes.

 

They also let a terrific left handed pinch hitter and versitile bench player Gload) go to save a million bucks in salary.

 

Any team that has David Samson involved with baseball decisions opens itself up for criticism.

Didn't read the article but as far as fan interest it's the Dolphins and then the Marlins and then the Heat. I haven't seen the TV ratings lately but in past years the Marlins ratings blew away the Heat ratings. But unfortunately among the local radio hosts and sports columnists it's all just Dolphins and Heat so there's no Marlins coverage except for the beat writers and they are not good at all.

 

 

 

I think I'll disagree.

The Heat took over #1 the minute they signed Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, and LeBron James in the span of 2 days. If they haven't taken over #1 yet, they'll take over the spot once the Heat win about 4 or 5 championships in the next 6 years or so. (that's if they don't win all 6, of course...)

What is the article is not true?

 

Loria traded away a HOFer because he was too stupid to lock him up early - like TB did with Longoria - and too cheap to pay the market rate later and got NOTHING for that HOF except payroll relief.

 

If the Marlins had not dumped Olsen and Willingham for nothing (Bonifacio) after 2008, they would have made the playoffs last year with Josh in LF, Cogs at 3B and Cantu remaining at 1B. And they took a million and half savings rather than keep Arthur Rhodes.

 

They also let a terrific left handed pinch hitter and versitile bench player Gload) go to save a million bucks in salary.

 

Any team that has David Samson involved with baseball decisions opens itself up for criticism.

 

 

And the good moves? The Marlins have had about as much success as the Dolphins recently. The only great team in South Florida is the Heat. The Panthers don't even exist, unfortunately. They just find ways to get worse, somehow.

Didn't read the article but as far as fan interest it's the Dolphins and then the Marlins and then the Heat. I haven't seen the TV ratings lately but in past years the Marlins ratings blew away the Heat ratings. But unfortunately among the local radio hosts and sports columnists it's all just Dolphins and Heat so there's no Marlins coverage except for the beat writers and they are not good at all.

 

 

 

I think I'll disagree.

The Heat took over #1 the minute they signed Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, and LeBron James in the span of 2 days. If they haven't taken over #1 yet, they'll take over the spot once the Heat win about 4 or 5 championships in the next 6 years or so. (that's if they don't win all 6, of course...)

 

Let's wait and see what the local TV ratings say before anointing them No. 1. Media buzz is not the same thing as fan interest.

Didn't read the article but as far as fan interest it's the Dolphins and then the Marlins and then the Heat. I haven't seen the TV ratings lately but in past years the Marlins ratings blew away the Heat ratings. But unfortunately among the local radio hosts and sports columnists it's all just Dolphins and Heat so there's no Marlins coverage except for the beat writers and they are not good at all.

 

 

 

I think I'll disagree.

The Heat took over #1 the minute they signed Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, and LeBron James in the span of 2 days. If they haven't taken over #1 yet, they'll take over the spot once the Heat win about 4 or 5 championships in the next 6 years or so. (that's if they don't win all 6, of course...)

 

Let's wait and see what the local TV ratings say before anointing them No. 1. Media buzz is not the same thing as fan interest.

 

I agree. This is a football city, so it's a wait and see on the Heat over taking the Dolphins. Although, it will happen if the Dolphins don't start winning soon.

Didn't read the article but as far as fan interest it's the Dolphins and then the Marlins and then the Heat. I haven't seen the TV ratings lately but in past years the Marlins ratings blew away the Heat ratings. But unfortunately among the local radio hosts and sports columnists it's all just Dolphins and Heat so there's no Marlins coverage except for the beat writers and they are not good at all.

 

 

The Marlins have seen their ratings take a 12% dive this year according to this article: http://www.sportsbus...m/article/66312

 

The Marlins and Heat are also tied in attendance for this most recent season (the Marlins averaged 114 more fans this season) which is pretty lousy when you consider 24 MLB teams average more than the best NBA team. And I fully expect the Heat to surpass the Marlins easily in the upcoming season when it comes to this statistic.

 

I do think it is still all about the Fins and Hurricanes as long as they are relevant down here in S. Fla.

What is the article is not true?

 

Loria traded away a HOFer because he was too stupid to lock him up early - like TB did with Longoria - and too cheap to pay the market rate later and got NOTHING for that HOF except payroll relief.

 

If the Marlins had not dumped Olsen and Willingham for nothing (Bonifacio) after 2008, they would have made the playoffs last year with Josh in LF, Cogs at 3B and Cantu remaining at 1B. And they took a million and half savings rather than keep Arthur Rhodes.

 

They also let a terrific left handed pinch hitter and versitile bench player Gload) go to save a million bucks in salary.

 

Any team that has David Samson involved with baseball decisions opens itself up for criticism.

 

 

And the good moves? The Marlins have had about as much success as the Dolphins recently. The only great team in South Florida is the Heat. The Panthers don't even exist, unfortunately. They just find ways to get worse, somehow.

 

What good moves?

 

Getting Ricky, getting Nunez and getting fair value for Beckett and Lowell?

What is the article is not true?

 

Loria traded away a HOFer because he was too stupid to lock him up early - like TB did with Longoria - and too cheap to pay the market rate later and got NOTHING for that HOF except payroll relief.

 

If the Marlins had not dumped Olsen and Willingham for nothing (Bonifacio) after 2008, they would have made the playoffs last year with Josh in LF, Cogs at 3B and Cantu remaining at 1B. And they took a million and half savings rather than keep Arthur Rhodes.

 

They also let a terrific left handed pinch hitter and versitile bench player Gload) go to save a million bucks in salary.

 

Any team that has David Samson involved with baseball decisions opens itself up for criticism.

 

 

And the good moves? The Marlins have had about as much success as the Dolphins recently. The only great team in South Florida is the Heat. The Panthers don't even exist, unfortunately. They just find ways to get worse, somehow.

 

What good moves?

 

Getting Ricky, getting Nunez and getting fair value for Beckett and Lowell?

 

 

Getting John Baker from the As for basically no one. Drafted Dan Uggla in the Rule 5 draft. Trading Becket and Lowell for the best SS in baseball and Anibal Sanchez, a very solid pitcher. Signing Jorge Cantu, Cody Ross and Ronny paulino and turning them into something. Mike Jacons for Leo Nunez. Juan Pierre for Ricky Nolasco. Kevin Gregg for Jose Ceda. All those bullpen arms that went from nothing to something for the Marlins.

 

That was off the top of my head, too.

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What is the article is not true?

 

Loria traded away a HOFer because he was too stupid to lock him up early - like TB did with Longoria - and too cheap to pay the market rate later and got NOTHING for that HOF except payroll relief.

 

If the Marlins had not dumped Olsen and Willingham for nothing (Bonifacio) after 2008, they would have made the playoffs last year with Josh in LF, Cogs at 3B and Cantu remaining at 1B. And they took a million and half savings rather than keep Arthur Rhodes.

 

They also let a terrific left handed pinch hitter and versitile bench player Gload) go to save a million bucks in salary.

 

Any team that has David Samson involved with baseball decisions opens itself up for criticism.

 

 

In all honesty, are you really a Marlins fan?

The Dolphins have done a lot lately...:rolleyes:

 

 

And the Marlins have?

 

 

Done pretty much the same thing. Only with more championships.

What is the article is not true?

 

Loria traded away a HOFer because he was too stupid to lock him up early - like TB did with Longoria - and too cheap to pay the market rate later and got NOTHING for that HOF except payroll relief.

 

If the Marlins had not dumped Olsen and Willingham for nothing (Bonifacio) after 2008, they would have made the playoffs last year with Josh in LF, Cogs at 3B and Cantu remaining at 1B. And they took a million and half savings rather than keep Arthur Rhodes.

 

They also let a terrific left handed pinch hitter and versitile bench player Gload) go to save a million bucks in salary.

 

Any team that has David Samson involved with baseball decisions opens itself up for criticism.

 

 

And the good moves? The Marlins have had about as much success as the Dolphins recently. The only great team in South Florida is the Heat. The Panthers don't even exist, unfortunately. They just find ways to get worse, somehow.

 

What good moves?

 

Getting Ricky, getting Nunez and getting fair value for Beckett and Lowell?

 

 

Don't really feel the need to explain again. Basically, what Ashraf said. If it were all bad, we wouldn't consistently be an above .500 team, for the most part. The Marlins haven't been a joke, regardless of the media's popular opinion.

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The Dolphins have done a lot lately...:rolleyes:

 

 

And the Marlins have?

 

 

Done pretty much the same thing. Only with more championships.

 

and with less support.

Didn't read the article but as far as fan interest it's the Dolphins and then the Marlins and then the Heat. I haven't seen the TV ratings lately but in past years the Marlins ratings blew away the Heat ratings. But unfortunately among the local radio hosts and sports columnists it's all just Dolphins and Heat so there's no Marlins coverage except for the beat writers and they are not good at all.

 

 

The Marlins have seen their ratings take a 12% dive this year according to this article: http://www.sportsbus...m/article/66312

 

The Marlins and Heat are also tied in attendance for this most recent season (the Marlins averaged 114 more fans this season) which is pretty lousy when you consider 24 MLB teams average more than the best NBA team. And I fully expect the Heat to surpass the Marlins easily in the upcoming season when it comes to this statistic.

 

I do think it is still all about the Fins and Hurricanes as long as they are relevant down here in S. Fla.

 

Looking at that website it looks like the Heat's ratings in the 2nd half of this past season were in the 2.50 to 2.60 range (*) so the Marlins ratings of 3.05 early this season are about 20% higher than the Heat's. The Marlins are more popular.

 

(*) look at 4, 5 and 6 in these results.

 

http://www.sportsbus...mi+heat+ratings

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