canada-marlin24 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 wow didnt know that reyes gets that good of a scouting report on cousins. bad work by webb and we blew a golden opportunity to win the game. sh*t way to lose and dont want to see many more of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 We're done. Finished. Bring out the tarp. Tear the place down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMagnus Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I know its only one game, but I can only imagine what Beinfest is thinking as so much emphasis was put on the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 I know its only one game, but I can only imagine what Beinfest is thinking as so much emphasis was put on the bullpen. yea weve seen way to many of these. OK the mets got a run now keep it there and they let them get more and of course we score a run in the bottom of the inning. totally thought cousins had a hit there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 wow didnt know that reyes gets that good of a scouting report on cousins. Unreal. That seemed like a single off the bat, and then Reyes was basically just standing there. Phenomenal job by the infield coach and Reyes on the positioning. I know its only one game, but I can only imagine what Beinfest is thinking as so much emphasis was put on the bullpen. He's thinking "TRADE THEM ALL! I NEVER THOUGHT WE'D LOSE ONE GAME!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbrownies Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 good ballgame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 We're not going 162-0. Sell now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunMarlin Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Whatever the bullpen did or did not do, we had the bases loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th with Infante up...lost the game right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. He's above average at being inconsistent and giving up runs in key situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Whatever the bullpen did or did not do, we had the bases loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th with Infante up...lost the game right there. There were also 2 outs. Infante has had a .360 OBP the last two years, so he had a 74% chance of making a single out. That's not a situation where you lose a game. More often than not, you don't get a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. He's above average at being inconsistent and giving up runs in key situations. He's a late game reliever. Damn near every situation he pitches in is a key situations. He pitches plenty of key situations where he blanks people out completely. See: the first half of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. He's above average at being inconsistent and giving up runs in key situations. He's a late game reliever. Damn near every situation he pitches in is a key situations. He pitches plenty of key situations where he blanks people out completely. See: the first half of last season. So what happened the second half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. Why is that silly? And he's arguably not even a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher, really. Also, in hindsight, the Webb outing is partially Edwin Rodriguez fault. Terrible time to bring him when the Mets have their two tough left-handed hitters at the top of the order coming up; Webb has had trouble against lefties the last couple of years, although I'm not sure who he could've gone to. I guess Mike Dunn to start the inning, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. He's above average at being inconsistent and giving up runs in key situations. He's a late game reliever. Damn near every situation he pitches in is a key situations. He pitches plenty of key situations where he blanks people out completely. See: the first half of last season. So what happened the second half? .387 BABIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom2613 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Whatever the bullpen did or did not do, we had the bases loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th with Infante up...lost the game right there. I know Uggla would gone deep there, just like he did off of Gordon. Were gonna need to do something about 3rd base though. Leo might net us one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. Why is that silly? And he's arguably not even a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher, really. Also, in hindsight, the Webb outing is partially Edwin Rodriguez fault. Terrible time to bring him when the Mets have their two tough left-handed hitters at the top of the order coming up; Webb has had trouble against lefties the last couple of years, although I'm not sure who he could've gone to. I guess Mike Dunn to start the inning, but whatever. Yeah, I didn't agree with Edwin putting in Leo and Webb when he did. especially for the former since it was 9th inning and they had already seen Nunez last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is it over-reacting to want Leo Nunez gone after the second game (since I wanted him gone long before this)? If your reasoning involves anything other than "That money could be better spent on a 3rd baseman," then you're just a silly person. He's a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher. The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. He's above average at being inconsistent and giving up runs in key situations. He's a late game reliever. Damn near every situation he pitches in is a key situations. He pitches plenty of key situations where he blanks people out completely. See: the first half of last season. A great half a season doesn't make a reliever above average, to be fair. He was very mediocre in the 2nd half, just like he was very mediocre the entire year of '09. And his barely above average relief pitching is not as needed here this year. At least not as much as a 3B, although you seem to think that's silly, for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Whatever the bullpen did or did not do, we had the bases loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th with Infante up...lost the game right there. The game wasn't lost there, it just wasn't won there. 160 games left boys... pace yourselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Why is that silly? And he's arguably not even a perfectly acceptable, above average relief pitcher, really. . He really, really is. It's super silly to suggest that a guy with a 3.77 ERA over 133 IP with a 1.26 WHIP over two seasons with 9 K/9 and a close to 3 K:BB ratio isn't an above average relief pitcher, even with his occasional HR troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 .387 BABIP. While that's sh*t luck, it's worth noting that part of that might just be that he's really hittable when he's missing location. And hitting his location is something he's always be rather inconsistent at; it's the reason why people are stupid with him and think he needs another pitch (slider). He doesn't need another pitch; he just needs to locate his changeup, consistently and use his fastball some more. All in all, it's getting to the point where it's put up or shut up time for him. It's his 3rd year in the role, and the Marlins can't wait to make a switch if he starts struggling. His bad outings seem to come in spurts and I really hope that's not the case this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVETOY Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Easy guys, it is only the second game of the season, 160 to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 At least not as much as a 3B, although you seem to think that's silly, for some reason. We are really, really, really, really gonna have to work on your reading comprehension... Check my post: The only reason you could want him gone is because he makes a decent chunk of change that could potentially net us a starting caliber 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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