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Interesting...is he a soft manager though?

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Interesting...is he a soft manager though?

 

 

Everybody loved him when his guy were winning

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Interesting...is he a soft manager though?

 

 

Everybody loved him when his guy were winning

 

Edwin is cool, this team ain't.

Aww how cute...

 

Just f****** win. :mad

Yeah I can tell this team really has his back. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they were trying to get him fired.

Yeah I can tell this team really has his back. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they were trying to get him fired.

 

 

Bobby Valentine sucks...

Yeah I can tell this team really has his back. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they were trying to get him fired.

 

 

Bobby Valentine sucks...

 

Alright.

It doesn't matter how much I or the rest of the team backs Edwin if he doesnt win and win soon hes going to get the can I say it happens this week

It doesn't matter how much I or the rest of the team backs Edwin if he doesnt win and win soon hes going to get the can I say it happens this week

 

 

I dont think so. It really feels like this clearly isn't on him and that the FO would try their hardest to not let him go. I also dont think they have many better options though.

I'd just like to see him get angry. He's so even-tempered and soft-spoken. I can't imagine him screaming at anyone or giving any sort of motivation. He's a smart manager, but damn....

At this point, I think you let Edwin play out the string. When your big offensive superstar is underperforming to this degree and your pitching has taken such a nosedive, that isn't on the manager. It could be if Edwin chose his staff, but I believe he didn't. I don't think his managerial moves have been bad. If we bring in new players at the trade deadline (either as the Marlins being buyers or sellers), you see how he manages them and how they respond to him.

 

But you do reevaluate at the end of the season. And if the season ended tomorrow, Edwin would be gone. If they turn it around, bigger chance of him staying. But he was on a short leash anyways.

I'd just like to see him get angry. He's so even-tempered and soft-spoken. I can't imagine him screaming at anyone or giving any sort of motivation. He's a smart manager, but damn....

 

 

By all accounts, he does get angry, but he does it in private. Which is fine by me. Seems like Fredi was the even-tempered guy that never got angry when these kids needed it.

I'd just like to see him get angry. He's so even-tempered and soft-spoken. I can't imagine him screaming at anyone or giving any sort of motivation. He's a smart manager, but damn....

 

 

Knowing how to control your emotions is intelligence in itself.

 

Whats the point of flipping out? To just flip out?

 

 

I wasn't ok when Fredi was even-tempered because I questioned his baseball intelligence.

 

I don't question Edwin he has made some pretty awesome moves this year and I will say that even with where we are in the Standings.

 

I support Edwin to the end.

I'd just like to see him get angry. He's so even-tempered and soft-spoken. I can't imagine him screaming at anyone or giving any sort of motivation. He's a smart manager, but damn....

 

 

Knowing how to control your emotions is intelligence in itself.

 

Whats the point of flipping out? To just flip out?

 

 

I wasn't ok when Fredi was even-tempered because I questioned his baseball intelligence.

 

I don't question Edwin he has made some pretty awesome moves this year and I will say that even with where we are in the Standings.

 

I support Edwin to the end.

 

 

So you're OK with Edwin being even-tempered but not OK with Fredi being even-tempered, because you didn't like the way he managed? What?

 

The point of flipping out is to show you care. I don't doubt that he cares, but I'd just like to see something besides 'Oh, we've been struggling and we need to swing the bat better.' I remember watching a Devil Rays game where they had a 10 run lead or something in the 2nd inning, and the Yankees scored like 11 runs in the 3rd and Lou Piniella broke the Gatorade cooler in the dugout. It shows he isn't there to sit around and babysit; it shows that he's sick of bulls***. It isn't going to help a team like the Devil Rays, because they were terrible, but it sure as hell gives you something to worry about if you're daydreaming out there. This team needs that.

I'd just like to see him get angry. He's so even-tempered and soft-spoken. I can't imagine him screaming at anyone or giving any sort of motivation. He's a smart manager, but damn....

 

 

Knowing how to control your emotions is intelligence in itself.

 

Whats the point of flipping out? To just flip out?

 

 

I wasn't ok when Fredi was even-tempered because I questioned his baseball intelligence.

 

I don't question Edwin he has made some pretty awesome moves this year and I will say that even with where we are in the Standings.

 

I support Edwin to the end.

 

 

So you're OK with Edwin being even-tempered but not OK with Fredi being even-tempered, because you didn't like the way he managed? What?

 

The point of flipping out is to show you care. I don't doubt that he cares, but I'd just like to see something besides 'Oh, we've been struggling and we need to swing the bat better.' I remember watching a Devil Rays game where they had a 10 run lead or something in the 2nd inning, and the Yankees scored like 11 runs in the 3rd and Lou Piniella broke the Gatorade cooler in the dugout. It shows he isn't there to sit around and babysit; it shows that he's sick of bulls***. It isn't going to help a team like the Devil Rays, because they were terrible, but it sure as hell gives you something to worry about if you're daydreaming out there. This team needs that.

 

 

I don't see how your confused with that part. Edwin Rodriguez makes some pretty good moves during the game where as Fredi Gonzalez didn't. That's all that really matters. Who cares about them being even-tempered? All that really matters are the moves they make.

The best way to "have his back" is to win. That's all that matters.

The best way to "have his back" is to win. That's all that matters.

 

 

That's hard with only one good starting pitcher.

The best way to "have his back" is to win. That's all that matters.

 

 

That's hard with only one good starting pitcher.

 

Very hard to do, but Edwin's gone if they don't figure out a way to start winning.

I'd just like to see him get angry. He's so even-tempered and soft-spoken. I can't imagine him screaming at anyone or giving any sort of motivation. He's a smart manager, but damn....

 

 

Knowing how to control your emotions is intelligence in itself.

 

Whats the point of flipping out? To just flip out?

 

 

I wasn't ok when Fredi was even-tempered because I questioned his baseball intelligence.

 

I don't question Edwin he has made some pretty awesome moves this year and I will say that even with where we are in the Standings.

 

I support Edwin to the end.

 

 

So you're OK with Edwin being even-tempered but not OK with Fredi being even-tempered, because you didn't like the way he managed? What?

 

The point of flipping out is to show you care. I don't doubt that he cares, but I'd just like to see something besides 'Oh, we've been struggling and we need to swing the bat better.' I remember watching a Devil Rays game where they had a 10 run lead or something in the 2nd inning, and the Yankees scored like 11 runs in the 3rd and Lou Piniella broke the Gatorade cooler in the dugout. It shows he isn't there to sit around and babysit; it shows that he's sick of bulls***. It isn't going to help a team like the Devil Rays, because they were terrible, but it sure as hell gives you something to worry about if you're daydreaming out there. This team needs that.

 

 

I don't see how your confused with that part. Edwin Rodriguez makes some pretty good moves during the game where as Fredi Gonzalez didn't. That's all that really matters. Who cares about them being even-tempered? All that really matters are the moves they make.

 

 

 

 

 

When two managers do (or don't do) the exact same thing, you shouldn't look at it any differently. Being even-tempered is a trait that the poster associated with intelligence. How is it that he approves of Edwin's mild temper and not Fredi's? Regardless of whether or not Edwin's winning games, the poster seems to believe that being even-tempered is a favorable trait, but just not for Fredi because he didn't like how he managed. And that makes no sense.

The Marlins made a series of roster moves today, but MLB.com's Joe Frisaro hears that the team is not considering a managerial change (Twitter links). Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, meanwhile, says that manager Edwin Rodriguez is on shaky ground and the team maintains interest in Ozzie Guillen and even Bobby Valentine.

Peter Gammons hears that Marlins players believe team ownership will go over the the heads of the baseball operations department and fire Rodriguez as well as his coaches (Twitter link).

 

 

Who to believe Gammons or the beat reporters?

I f***ing hate this team.

 

A bunch of whiny pussies. Stop crying about the hitting coach being fired and stop crying about stupid sh*t like the manager possibly being fired. The owner has the right to do that. Maybe if these pussies would win more than one game a month, they wouldn't be having this problem. Idiots.

Wish we had some good veterans (not Wes Helms) in this line-up to play by example and tell these kids to shut the f*** up

Funny how these guys could be making a fortune out of this game and reap the business side's rewards, and not come to terms with any other part. This is Loria's team and he's going to continue doing what he wants, because it's his money.

Funny how these guys could be making a fortune out of this game and reap the business side's rewards, and not come to terms with any other part. This is Loria's team and he's going to continue doing what he wants, because it's his money.

 

But, to be expected.

 

With very few exceptions, these guys have little to no knowledge of business, finance or economics, and certainly not of the challenges any small-market owner faces.

 

Some of them, in addition to being ignorant are just plain below-grade in the gray-matter department. Many of them are over-grown children (even into their 30s) and many have been pampered forever because of their athletic talent so it's almost a given that they'll whine and complain and criticize things they don't understand and probably won't understand until long after they're retired, if ever.

 

When they're under less duress than going 1-16 generates and something "bad" happens like someone is traded or DFAed or released, the best they can usually manage is to mouth cliches like "It's part of the game" and similar inanities because that's the sum total of their understanding. That's in between the five to 10 "You know?" fillers per 15 seconds of interview while their brain is constantly fighting a losing battle to catch up with their mouth.

 

And then there's the stylings of the released Cody Ross. And he was one of the smarter guys on this team.

 

:lol

 

I'm actually surprised there hasn't been more kvetching. Maybe there will be after more fit hits the shan.

The best way to "have his back" is to win. That's all that matters.

 

 

That is basically what I heard on TV yesterday. The announcer (I think he was a former player) blasted Hanley because he said he has Edwin's back, but yet he's hitting .200 for the season. He said he thought that if he didn't know better Hanley was trying to get traded, because speaking out like that is what Marlins owners don't like.