Why is everyone on our team a moron? Logan Morrison is probably a bigger idiot than Hanley in a completely different way. Keep your mouth shut, kid; you're not standing up for anything worthwhile.

 

The bowling incident is probably a response to something else the Marlins did, which he believes he needs to stand up for.

he said the Florida Marlins Community Foundation “dropped the ball� and didn’t sell enough lanes in advance.

 

THAT is most probably what he doesn't want to talk about.

 

The FMCF is behind the annual in-game auction. Nancy Olson ran the outfit since '99 and just retired a month ago. She's a big bowler. FMCF has raised about $7 million for charity, almost all of it while she was running it. Every time she's interviewed, Rich and Tommy absolutely kiss her a$$. She's been with the Marlins since '96 and has both WS (staff) rings. She called her brother from the pitcher's mound after game 6 in '03. She and FMCF are untouchable, and he was too dumb to realize it and stepped over the line.

 

Essentially insulting her by blaming the FMCF is likely the straw that broke the camel's back, on top of the generalized Twitter issue, the Hanley issue, generally being a loud-mouth, etc.

 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's packaged up and traded before next year.

 

I agree with the Twitter portion. I was following him and some of his posts show his maturity level. Plus he was filling up my feed with useless posts. I bet his general immaturity and big mouth is the main reason for all of this.

I'm not sure about the timeline though, was LoMo told before the game or after ? Because it would explain his (for him) boring performance doing the lineups.

 

 

After

Hmmmm, then maybe he was just p.o'd by the fan photo thing, it must have happened around the same time as his doing the lineups.....that seems reasonable at least.

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Certainly not related to performance, at least not primarily. He's struggled but all things being equal I'm sure they'd rather him work through it up here.

 

It looks bad. Do they not worry about PR and whether what they're doing is worth it?

 

Are they still selling tickets to the new stadium at a strong pace ? If that hasn't been slipping, I don't think they do care about PR. I sometimes don't think they get that. They act as though everything is about the bottom line, and are not "people person's" in the least. They seems (to me at least as an organization) to live only in the present, and don't see how they can hurt themselves in the long run with what they do. People are goint to the games next year, but what about beyond that ? I don't think they think about that sometimes.

I'm sorry, but if there's an organization within the Marlins such as the MCF that holds so much influence that you can't criticize it - that's retarded. These people have nothing to do with day to day operations of the ball club. What if they actually did drop the ball? Screw em. These self righteous fruitcakes should have NO sway over this organization. There should be no favorite sons. Of course with Loria, we all know there will always be favorites and untouchables. What a terrible way to run an organization and a GREAT way to ensure that talent never wants to come here in the form of front office or players.

 

 

 

Why the hell is it Logan's place to share his opinion on what every single person in the organization is doing. He dissed the Community Foundation and pissed off the innocent fans who bought tickets to play with him. He affected a lot of people who didn't have anything to do with his stupid beef with the FO in order to stick it to the FO. It doesn't make sense to be angry that a charity event suffered because of someone's mismanagement and then, because the event wasn't as successful as you thought it'd be, make it even less successful by not showing up. The way I see it, you can't care about an event, blast people who didn't work on it well enough, and then not work on it yourself.

i've heard he has said some unflattering things about the team on Sid Rosenberg's show down there too, although I don't listen to it so i can't confirm that.

 

I think they probably should've just benched him for a few games and let him know he's gonna have to tone it down, but again maybe they've already had that conversation.

I'm sorry, but if there's an organization within the Marlins such as the MCF that holds so much influence that you can't criticize it - that's retarded. These people have nothing to do with day to day operations of the ball club. What if they actually did drop the ball? Screw em. These self righteous fruitcakes should have NO sway over this organization. There should be no favorite sons. Of course with Loria, we all know there will always be favorites and untouchables. What a terrible way to run an organization and a GREAT way to ensure that talent never wants to come here in the form of front office or players.

 

 

 

Why the hell is it Logan's place to share his opinion on what every single person in the organization is doing. He dissed the Community Foundation and pissed off the innocent fans who bought tickets to play with him. He affected a lot of people who didn't have anything to do with his stupid beef with the FO in order to stick it to the FO. It doesn't make sense to be angry that a charity event suffered because of someone's mismanagement and then, because the event wasn't as successful as you thought it'd be, make it even less successful by not showing up. The way I see it, you can't care about an event, blast people who didn't work on it well enough, and then not work on it yourself.

 

 

 

I agree he doesn't have to criticize everything, but that doesn't mean these people who aren't part of the front office should wield so much influence on day to day operations just because they are butt hurt over Logan's comments. Who is REALLY being childish and petty here? Its not just Logan.

I'm sorry, but if there's an organization within the Marlins such as the MCF that holds so much influence that you can't criticize it - that's retarded.

 

The Florida Marlins Charitable Foundation is an independent 501c(3) tax-exempt charitable organization. They are not "within the Marlins" and never have been. The FMCF has raised (and distributed) about $7 million for various charitable purposes.

 

They are not only beyond criticism (barring some sort of proof of misappropriation of funds,) certainly by you and any other ignorant yahoo like you, but by any Marlins player, even a loud-mouth juvenile like Morrison.

 

Perhaps when you grow up, you'll understand a bit more about the legalities of organizations, and why you shouldn't run your mouth when you have no idea of what you're talking about.

 

Sorta like LoMo.

Oh, so its not even part of the Marlins organization. That makes it all the better they have influence over the team. I'm so glad we're sending a player to the minors based on criticism over this. Heck, let's trade him. After all, he insulted the all powerful community foundation.

An organization that does dozens of charity events a year are "self righteous fruit cakes?"

 

Cool.

Obviously Logan needs to grow up a bit.

 

The thing is, out of all the things he's done and said, THIS would be the issue that brings forth disciplinary action? Really? From a baseball fan perspective, all I care about is the things immediately surrounding the Marlins. I'm sure the community foundation does a lot of nice things for people in the local area. But from a purely baseball perspective, I really don't care about them. Sorry. I don't think we should lose players over them. If you want to discipline him for things he's said about the team and its front office, go right ahead. But this?

I think some people are using this thread to bash LoMo's character simply because its convenient right now.

An organization that does dozens of charity events a year are "self righteous fruit cakes?"

 

Cool.

 

 

A charity organization that thinks it should wield influence over a professional baseball team to the point of player personnel management is far exceeding its intended functions.

An organization that does dozens of charity events a year are "self righteous fruit cakes?"

 

Cool.

 

 

A charity organization that thinks it should wield influence over a professional baseball team to the point of player personnel management is far exceeding its intended functions.

 

I think you're being an asshat based on hearsay and "...'s" baseless assumptions about how it went down.

I doubt this is a baseball-related move. .249 or whatever is not a good average, but considering the state of the Marlins right now, we should be leaving Morrison, hailed as part of the new core, up at the MLB level to just use the rest of the season as practice to fine-tune his skills. Any other player would stay, especially with 17 or so home runs. Seems to me like they are trying to make an attitude adjustment which is fine by me. Morrison needs to be brought down to earth a little, the little charity organization thing seems to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

This season has been such a disaster in so many ways.....

An organization that does dozens of charity events a year are "self righteous fruit cakes?"

 

Cool.

 

 

A charity organization that thinks it should wield influence over a professional baseball team to the point of player personnel management is far exceeding its intended functions.

 

I think you're being an asshat based on hearsay and "...'s" baseless assumptions about how it went down.

 

Yes, I am replying mostly based on the conspiracy theory. You're right, its possible that might not be true.

An organization that does dozens of charity events a year are "self righteous fruit cakes?"

 

Cool.

 

 

A charity organization that thinks it should wield influence over a professional baseball team to the point of player personnel management is far exceeding its intended functions.

 

I think you're being an asshat based on hearsay and "...'s" baseless assumptions about how it went down.

 

Yes, I am replying mostly based on the conspiracy theory. You're right, its possible that might not be true.

So maybe you should not criticize the charity organization as "self righteous fruitcakes."

An organization that does dozens of charity events a year are "self righteous fruit cakes?"

 

Cool.

 

 

A charity organization that thinks it should wield influence over a professional baseball team to the point of player personnel management is far exceeding its intended functions.

 

Maybe it doesn't think it should wield influence? Maybe it just does.

 

See, the thing about influence is that it comes with time and what you do throughout that time. That is what earns you respect. Logan's been a major leaguer for about a year now. Throughout that time, he's criticized Hanley, the FO and now the community foundation. We know Logan doesn't have the tenure to be influential and highly respected - but the other factor, what he's done in his time here, doesn't speak well for him either.

 

Compare him to Mike Stanton. Stanton's a better player, who has done more in his time as a Marlin than LoMo - and, most importantly, he understands the concept of a hierarchy and an almost-rookie player's position within it.

 

LoMo's acting like that douchebag guy who hangs out with your group of friends once and automatically joins in on all the jokes within the group that would otherwise be taken offensively. LoMo needs a f***ing reality check.

The Florida Marlins Charitable Foundation is an independent 501c(3) tax-exempt charitable organization. They are not "within the Marlins" and never have been. The FMCF has raised (and distributed) about $7 million for various charitable purposes.

 

How much have they raised and how much have they distributed to charities?

Oh, so its not even part of the Marlins organization. That makes it all the better they have influence over the team.

 

Well, let's see. Loria has to live in this town. He wants the Marlins to have the best possible image in this town.

 

How does he do that? By putting the best possible team on the field and working the PR aspect of having a charitable adjunct to the team, namely the FMCF, as well as no end of other "community" functions and initiatives.

 

The FMCF's reputation is spotless. To have an active-roster Marlins player criticize FMCF is total apostasy and totally intolerable. To then, within about 36 hours, stiff season ticket holders (and perhaps blow off other functions) after having criticized Loria (for the Mallee firing) and bad-mouthing Hanley over the last 2 months makes for the sort of situation where the loud-mouth needs to be taught a really stiff lesson.

 

How better to do that than to send him down for a month?

 

No more MLB clubhouse perks or first-class travel and hotels. Hop on the bus, kid. No more $400K/yr, more like $50K/yr. How do you like them apples, smartass?

 

The FMCF has no influence on this team, FMCF is only involved to the extent that Morrison was idiotic enough to impugn them and their efforts. Morrison is the author of his own sad story.

 

He'll be lucky if he hasn't soured them entirely on the idea of him being around here for the next few years.

The Florida Marlins Charitable Foundation is an independent 501c(3) tax-exempt charitable organization. They are not "within the Marlins" and never have been. The FMCF has raised (and distributed) about $7 million for various charitable purposes.

 

How much have they raised and how much have they distributed to charities?

 

Huh?

 

Could I have been more explicit?

The Florida Marlins Charitable Foundation is an independent 501c(3) tax-exempt charitable organization. They are not "within the Marlins" and never have been. The FMCF has raised (and distributed) about $7 million for various charitable purposes.

 

How much have they raised and how much have they distributed to charities?

 

Huh?

 

Could I have been more explicit?

 

He asking how much have they raised minus how much they've distributed. What is their overhead? How much have they not distributed.

The Florida Marlins Charitable Foundation is an independent 501c(3) tax-exempt charitable organization. They are not "within the Marlins" and never have been. The FMCF has raised (and distributed) about $7 million for various charitable purposes.

 

How much have they raised and how much have they distributed to charities?

 

Huh?

 

Could I have been more explicit?

So they distribute to charities 100% of the funds they raise? That's hard to believe. Do you have a link?