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2012 NFL Offseason Thread

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So, they're giving Mark Sanchez two more seasons to prove himself. Or one season, and a very expensive back up.

 

Feels that way. It's not like they had a realistic shot at any of the legit QB options this offseason anyway, assuming Peyton had no interest. Maybe Matt Flynn, but he's far from proven, too. With this deal, they save cap space while keeping the same QB they would've had regardless; have some chance at a bargain if he improves; and are only stuck with Sanchez and a big salary for 1 additional season if he doesn't improve/regresses/gets hurt.

According to ESPN, Manning is deciding between Arizona and Denver. Miami is losing steem in the race.

That doesn't sound very good...

 

After at least 12 teams contacted Peyton Manning when he became a free agent, the former Indianapolis Colts quarterback has narrowed his options.

 

 

The Denver Broncos and Arizona Cardinals, the first two teams Manning visited, are considered his two likeliest landing spots, according to sources familiar with the situation.

 

The Seattle Seahawks continue to try to arrange a meeting with Manning, according to sources, but so far they have been unable to do so.

 

Manning still could wind up meeting with theDolphins, but indications are that Miami isn't as high on his list as Denver and Arizona.

 

There always is the possibility another team suddenly jumps into the fray, the sources said, but it is looking increasingly likely there are only a few viable possibilities at this time.

 

One source who spoke with Manning prior to his visit with the Cardinals said "his gut is that Manning is leaning toward Denver."

 

The Broncos' advantages include Manning's relationship with executive vice president of football operations John Elway and coach John Fox and the fact that joining them would keep him in the AFC, where he has played all his professional football with the Colts.

 

Yet the Cardinals will make a hard push and put on what one team source said is a "Louisville-style full-court press." Manning also is close with Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt and has played golf with him.

 

Manning arrived at the Cardinals' facility with Whisenhunt shortly after noon ET on Sunday for his visit with the team. He stepped out of a white SUV and nodded and waved to cameramen as he walked past a security gate and into a building.

A few minutes earlier, Cardinals receiver Admin Fitzgerald arrived in his own car.

Manning will be meeting with multiple high-ranking members of the Cardinals organization, including president Michael Bidwill, who sources say is determined to sign the former Colts quarterback.

 

"This team missed on Montana when he went to K.C.," said another Cardinals source. "This is a different owner, just with the same last name. Michael will do what it takes.

 

 

"He is hugely aware of our fan base and how his dad is viewed. He came to work with this team to get the stadium built. It took him a long time to get that done, but he did.

 

"He is a driven young owner that wants to totally change this franchise's image."

 

And he views landing Manning as the next step in that process. Sources say that would not necessarily be a strong selling point to Manning, who is looking simply for a "comfortable football and organizational fit." Along those lines, the Broncos and Cardinals have staffs that have shown flexibility in adapting their offense to a quarterback's strengths, as the Broncos did with Tim Tebow and the Cardinals did withKurt Warner.

 

Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

I can't believe I'm saying this...but

 

Let's go get Tim Tebow. At the very least, he makes next season somewhat compelling. If he completely bombs (which is somewhat likely), then we end up with Barkley with only one more year wasted.

 

I hate that we lost out on Manning.

I can't believe I'm saying this...but

 

Let's go get Tim Tebow. At the very least, he makes next season somewhat compelling. If he completely bombs (which is somewhat likely), then we end up with Barkley with only one more year wasted.

 

I hate that we lost out on Manning.

 

 

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Probably due to the fact that he has yet to meet with Miami.

 

 

And he might not. He's meeting with Arizona again today. At least, that's what the ESPN text told me.

I can't believe I'm saying this...but

 

Let's go get Tim Tebow. At the very least, he makes next season somewhat compelling. If he completely bombs (which is somewhat likely), then we end up with Barkley with only one more year wasted.

 

I hate that we lost out on Manning.

 

 

One of the worst ideas I have ever read. On any board, probably.

Like I said before, sign Matt Flynn. He'll probably take a smaller contract to play here than say Seattle or Cleveland.

I can't believe I'm saying this...but

 

Let's go get Tim Tebow. At the very least, he makes next season somewhat compelling. If he completely bombs (which is somewhat likely), then we end up with Barkley with only one more year wasted.

 

I hate that we lost out on Manning.

 

 

One of the worst ideas I have ever read. On any board, probably.

 

Screw the fact that's he's a mediocre quarterback. He's interesting. He'll sell tickets. And worst comes to worst, he leads us to Matt Barkley.

 

The worst idea you would've ever read on this board would've been to remain with Matt Moore and remain on a path of mediocrity, staying in the 10-15 range in the draft and never finding a franchise QB.

You know why I wanted the Dolphins to absolutely tank last season? Because the team that tanked just got Andrew Luck.

 

We tried hard enough to win six games. You know what that got us? Another year of getting leftovers in the QB market.

 

It's annoying being in the middle of the pack every year. I'd rather be the worst team in the NFL one season and get a franchise QB than keep this sh*t going.

I can't believe I'm saying this...but

 

Let's go get Tim Tebow. At the very least, he makes next season somewhat compelling. If he completely bombs (which is somewhat likely), then we end up with Barkley with only one more year wasted.

 

I hate that we lost out on Manning.

 

 

One of the worst ideas I have ever read. On any board, probably.

 

Screw the fact that's he's a mediocre quarterback. He's interesting. He'll sell tickets. And worst comes to worst, he leads us to Matt Barkley.

 

The worst idea you would've ever read on this board would've been to remain with Matt Moore and remain on a path of mediocrity, staying in the 10-15 range in the draft and never finding a franchise QB.

 

Nope, that's worse.

You know why I wanted the Dolphins to absolutely tank last season? Because the team that tanked just got Andrew Luck.

 

We tried hard enough to win six games. You know what that got us? Another year of getting leftovers in the QB market.

 

It's annoying being in the middle of the pack every year. I'd rather be the worst team in the NFL one season and get a franchise QB than keep this sh*t going.

 

 

Andrew Luck would have been nice. It didn't happen. You move on. You don't try to intentionally lose, or hope for it.

I can't believe I'm saying this...but

 

Let's go get Tim Tebow. At the very least, he makes next season somewhat compelling. If he completely bombs (which is somewhat likely), then we end up with Barkley with only one more year wasted.

 

I hate that we lost out on Manning.

 

 

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I'll second this with a

 

I can't believe I'm saying this...but

 

Let's go get Tim Tebow. At the very least, he makes next season somewhat compelling. If he completely bombs (which is somewhat likely), then we end up with Barkley with only one more year wasted.

 

I hate that we lost out on Manning.

 

 

One of the worst ideas I have ever read. On any board, probably.

 

Screw the fact that's he's a mediocre quarterback. He's interesting. He'll sell tickets. And worst comes to worst, he leads us to Matt Barkley.

 

The worst idea you would've ever read on this board would've been to remain with Matt Moore and remain on a path of mediocrity, staying in the 10-15 range in the draft and never finding a franchise QB.

 

Ehe. You're just... Oh man...

The Dolphins are the mystery team for Peyton Manning...

 

 

Well there's no doubt the Dolphins have been working in mysterious ways for the past decade or so...

 

Mysterious not necessarily meaning good or bad. But I'm sure we can all figure that one out.

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Manning is expected to sign with a team by Tuesday/Wednesday & isn't basing his decision on money.

 

 

According to the Denver Post, free agent Peyton Manning did not discuss contract terms during his weekend visits with the Cardinals and Broncos.

Manning kept it "strictly football" during both visits, and didn't even bring agent Tom Condon out west. The Post reports that Manning was "impressed" by the Broncos, and the Arizona Republic reported Sunday that Peyton was "really into" his Cardinals visit. The Post, as ESPN's Adam Schefter has recently, insists Manning "is not basing his decision on money." Per Post reporter Mike Klis, the Seahawks and Chiefs "are out" of the mix after Manning declined both teams' overtures. He is expected to sign with a new team by Tuesday or Wednesday.

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Manning feeling good-able to reach 50 yards.

 

Seahawks & Chiefs are "out" of the race.

 

Manning has no plans to visit any other teams after visiting the Cardinals but might talk independently with coaches.

 

 

 

 

ESPN.com's Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter report Peyton Manning's (neck surgeries) throwing velocity has increased, he's able to reach 50 yards, and he can provide "extensive quality video" for interested teams.

Manning has already released his medical files to teams and is "not believed to be opposed to working out" for finalists. The Arizona Republic confirms Manning's Sunday visit with the Cardinals was "all about football" and "went well" while the Tacoma News Tribune disputes a report that the Seahawks have been eliminated from the hunt. Although Manning has no "firm visits" planned to other teams, he could "talk independently" with coaches, such as Joe Philbin of the Dolphins. Should the Phins gain an audience with Manning, the Miami Herald reports they plan to "think outside the box" in their recruiting effort

Sione Pouha resigns with New York. It's a 3 year deal. This is important because Paul Soliai and his agent will likely get the same contract as Pouha.

Sione Pouha resigns with New York. It's a 3 year deal. This is important because Paul Soliai and his agent will likely get the same contract as Pouha.

 

How big is the deal? Pouha is over 30, but doesn't have much wear and tear on him. Is Soliai similar?

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