March 10, 201214 yr Ehe Sanchez got an extension. Ehe. I just hope they got a cap-friendly deal, because the Jets have several holes. 3 years 58.5 million. Nothing cap friendly about that. Also, Redskins are still going after Manning. But, Manning is visiting with Denver again tomorrow, I believe.
March 10, 201214 yr 3 year, 54 million dollar extension for Sanchez. The Jets better hope he turns into Steve Young otherwise they are screwed. I'd be okay with Eli Manning :lol
March 10, 201214 yr Ehe Sanchez got an extension. Ehe. I just hope they got a cap-friendly deal, because the Jets have several holes. 3 years 58.5 million. Nothing cap friendly about that. Also, Redskins are still going after Manning. But, Manning is visiting with Denver again tomorrow, I believe. Its not 3 years 58.5. They added 3 years on to the remaining 2 years for a total deal that is now 5 years 58 million. More importantly, the deal is supposedly going to save the Jets a lot in 2012. I'll wait to see the actual terms of the deal before commenting. In the NFL, the players never see a good portion of what is on the contract.
March 10, 201214 yr 3 years 58.5 million. Nothing cap friendly about that. Michael Jordan: *ponders* **laughs**..."Still can't compete with the dysfunctional mess I've put together in Charlotte!"
March 10, 201214 yr Ehe Sanchez got an extension. Ehe. I just hope they got a cap-friendly deal, because the Jets have several holes. 3 years 58.5 million. Nothing cap friendly about that. Also, Redskins are still going after Manning. But, Manning is visiting with Denver again tomorrow, I believe. Its not 3 years 58.5. They added 3 years on to the remaining 2 years for a total deal that is now 5 years 58 million. More importantly, the deal is supposedly going to save the Jets a lot in 2012. I'll wait to see the actual terms of the deal before commenting. In the NFL, the players never see a good portion of what is on the contract. It's 3/40 with $27 million guaranteed over the next two years. I would guess that it guarantees the next two years at a lower cap hit, but leaves them with very little after that guaranteed.
March 10, 201214 yr That deal for Sanchez isn't TOO crazy. I mean it's not smart money, but I don't think they'll regret that contract too badly. There's room for improvement for Marky Mark. Plus, no chance they get Peyton. As for the Rams trade, all I gotta say is Damn. That's a lot of first round picks. I don't think I would've traded that much for Andrew Luck. If they think RG3 is a franchise QB and he becomes one, then it's most likely worth it, but that's handicapping you from getting some top tier players at other positions the next two years.
March 10, 201214 yr That deal for Sanchez isn't TOO crazy. I mean it's not smart money, but I don't think they'll regret that contract too badly. There's room for improvement for Marky Mark. Set the bar low enough and you can trip over it. That doesn't make it an accomplishment.
March 10, 201214 yr That deal for Sanchez isn't TOO crazy. I mean it's not smart money, but I don't think they'll regret that contract too badly. There's room for improvement for Marky Mark. Set the bar low enough and you can trip over it. That doesn't make it an accomplishment. You know that's not what he meant. He meant that he can improve into being worth that contract. Your fiery hatred for Sanchez is comical.
March 10, 201214 yr By the way, I think the deal was probably necessary to give the Jets the cap flexibility to compete next year, since their likely not a Super Bowl contender without plugging a few leaks. So, even the Jets might not have thought that Sanchez isn't objectively worth that price, but that this extension still gives them the best chance to win over the next couple of years.
March 10, 201214 yr He's making 14.5 million per year with 27 guaranteed over the next two years. The dollars are really not the issue; Woody Johnson has money to burn. The cap impact is what's important. I don't know the intracacies of the extension, but the raw numbers don't tell the whole story. As I alluded to in my previous post, Sanchez could "underperform" the contract and it still might have been a good decision. Again, depending on how it affects the cap.
March 10, 201214 yr That deal for Sanchez isn't TOO crazy. I mean it's not smart money, but I don't think they'll regret that contract too badly. There's room for improvement for Marky Mark. Set the bar low enough and you can trip over it. That doesn't make it an accomplishment. You know that's not what he meant. He meant that he can improve into being worth that contract. Your fiery hatred for Sanchez is comical. Ehe, I love how if you have a negative opinion on someone who isn't on your team it means you hate them. We are discussing Mark Sanchez. I'm sorry I expressed my opinion. My bad. HATERZZZZZZZZ blah blah blah Stop being Iowa.
March 10, 201214 yr He's making 14.5 million per year with 27 guaranteed over the next two years. The dollars are really not the issue; Woody Johnson has money to burn. The cap impact is what's important. I don't know the intracacies of the extension, but the raw numbers don't tell the whole story. As I alluded to in my previous post, Sanchez could "underperform" the contract and it still might have been a good decision. Again, depending on how it affects the cap. Very true. Like Jetsmania said, we have to wait till the contract terms officially comes out. Still, giving Mark Sanchez a contract like this seems horrible. It saves them money for this season, yea. But you just extended a bad quarterback, and guaranteed him a lot of money.
March 10, 201214 yr That deal for Sanchez isn't TOO crazy. I mean it's not smart money, but I don't think they'll regret that contract too badly. There's room for improvement for Marky Mark. Set the bar low enough and you can trip over it. That doesn't make it an accomplishment. You know that's not what he meant. He meant that he can improve into being worth that contract. Your fiery hatred for Sanchez is comical. Ehe, I love how if you have a negative opinion on someone who isn't on your team it means you hate them. We are discussing Mark Sanchez. I'm sorry I expressed my opinion. My bad. HATERZZZZZZZZ blah blah blah Stop being Iowa. Your post is a discussion? You deliberately misinterpreted his post to make a [non-substantive] rip on Sanchez. Give me a break.
March 10, 201214 yr He's making 14.5 million per year with 27 guaranteed over the next two years. The dollars are really not the issue; Woody Johnson has money to burn. The cap impact is what's important. I don't know the intracacies of the extension, but the raw numbers don't tell the whole story. As I alluded to in my previous post, Sanchez could "underperform" the contract and it still might have been a good decision. Again, depending on how it affects the cap. Very true. Like Jetsmania said, we have to wait till the contract terms officially comes out. Still, giving Mark Sanchez a contract like this seems horrible. It saves them money for this season, yea. But you just extended a bad quarterback, and guaranteed him a lot of money. No question the numbers feel icky. I don't know where the numbers fall relative to other QB salaries, but I'm sure he's top 10 in money, and he's nowhere near that in play.
March 10, 201214 yr People make posts like that all of the time about all sorts of subjects, but since it happens to be the quarterback of your favorite team, I'm a gigantic meanie-head hater who only hates and hates and hates and I'M SO MEAN. That post was part of an ongoing discussion. Was it worse than the Michael Jordan .gif someone posted? You're being Iowa about Derrick Rose right now. But yeah, I'm just a stupid meanie hater head.
March 10, 201214 yr The Michael Jordan gif actually responded to the post, even if an "un-intellectual" way. You took an unrelated shot at Sanchez, regardless of whether you admit it. So because people make stupid, hateful (I use that term lightly for lack of a better word) posts, that makes it less stupid? Nope. You're rational and fair almost all of the time, and/so I expect more out of you. And it's silly to distort my meaning with the "stupid meanie/I'M SO MEAN" stuff. I didn't say you're mean; you just have an irrational hatred for the guy. Doesn't make you a bad person, or even a mean person. In fact, it's a common thing among fans. Heck, I have an irrational hatred for Leonhard Hamilton and Frank Haith, even though all they probably did was leave a not-so-great basketball school for more prestige and money. But, it's just silly.
March 10, 201214 yr evan silva � @evansilva multiple reports say #dolphins inquired about trade up for rg3 before was-stl deal. Miami worried about whiffing on manning?
March 10, 201214 yr He's making 14.5 million per year with 27 guaranteed over the next two years. That's not certain. His cap number for 2012 was around $14.5 million before the extension. ESPN states, "the deal includes $20.5 million in guarantees for 2012 and 2013 and $40.5 million in "new" money, bringing his total over five years to $58.25 million, according to sources. Some of that $20.5 million can come as a signing bonus, which is spread out over the life of the contract. While Mark Sanchez could be guaranteed $20 million in the next two years, that does not mean is cap hit is $14 million per year. A beat writer for the NY Post said that the savings in 2012 should be "significant". I imagine this is the reason that they signed an extension, so that they can become players in the free agent market.
March 10, 201214 yr People make posts like that all of the time about all sorts of subjects, but since it happens to be the quarterback of your favorite team, I'm a gigantic meanie-head hater who only hates and hates and hates and I'M SO MEAN. That post was part of an ongoing discussion. Was it worse than the Michael Jordan .gif someone posted? You're being Iowa about Derrick Rose right now. But yeah, I'm just a stupid meanie hater head. quit being a douche
March 10, 201214 yr He's making 14.5 million per year with 27 guaranteed over the next two years. That's not certain. His cap number for 2012 was around $14.5 million before the extension. ESPN states, "the deal includes $20.5 million in guarantees for 2012 and 2013 and $40.5 million in "new" money, bringing his total over five years to $58.25 million, according to sources. Some of that $20.5 million can come as a signing bonus, which is spread out over the life of the contract. While Mark Sanchez could be guaranteed $20 million in the next two years, that does not mean is cap hit is $14 million per year. A beat writer for the NY Post said that the savings in 2012 should be "significant". I imagine this is the reason that they signed an extension, so that they can become players in the free agent market. I read 6 million in savings.
March 10, 201214 yr Great write-up by Cimini (how rarely I say that): http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/10973/breaking-down-marks-new-contract Mark Sanchez's contract extension has been dissected by experts and non-experts, praised and criticized, but the part most fans want to know is this: How does it affect the 2012 team? Here's how: Sanchez's cap charge in '12 drops from $14.25 million to $7.85 million, a savings of $6.4 million, according to a source. Obviously, that gives the Jets greater flexibility in free agency. Unofficially, it means they have more than $14 million in cap dollars to spend. The next thing you want to know is this: Will they be players for DE/OLB Mario Williams, the best free agent not named Peyton Manning? The answer is no, the Jets haven't changed their position on Williams. But now they have the money to fill their other holes, namely safety, outside linebacker, wide receiver and backup quarterback. They also have the means to sign TE Dustin Keller to a long-term extension. Other details, as reported by ProFootballTalk.com, on Sanchez's three-year, $40.5 million extension: • His 2012 compensation will remain the same as the previous contract ($11.75 million), except now it's fully guaranteed and will be divided as follows: $8 million signing bonus; $3.25 million base; $500,000 workout bonus. • His 2013 compensation went from a non-guaranteed $6 million to a guaranteed $8.25 million, bringing the total guarantee in the new contract to $20.5 million. • The money in 2014-2016 is not guaranteed. We're talking about $11.5 million in '14 ($2 million roster bonus, $9 million base, $500,000 workout), $14 million in '15 ($1 million roster bonus, $12.5 million base, $500,000 workout) and $12.25 million in '16 ($1 million roster bonus, $10.75 million base, $500,000 workout). There's also $10 million in potential escalators. Final analysis: Both sides are accepting risk. This isn't an outrageous, mortgaging-the-future contract, but if Sanchez flatlines or regresses in 2012, the Jets are basically stuck with him in 2013 -- and that may not bode well for Rex Ryan's job security. That is the risk the Jets are taking on. If Sanchez develops into an elite quarterback, the Jets will have him locked up for four more years at a reasonable number. That is Sanchez's risk. Sanchez, perhaps sensing some uneasiness from the organization about his future, was willing to give them extra years (2014-16) for the security of that 2013 guarantee of $8.25 million. Clearly, he wasn't in the greatest bargaining position. In my Friday night blog post, or rather the wee hours of Saturday, I questioned the extension because of the message it sends. Former Jet Damien Woody, an ESPN analyst, agreed with me, saying Saturday on 1050 ESPN New York that it's "rewarding mediocrity." The Jets themselves have said Sanchez didn't live up to expectations in 2011. It also seems like the Jets are trying to rebuild Sanchez's image in his own locker room by throwing money at him, as if to show everyone he's not a lame duck. It was troubling to hear Sanchez say Friday night that the contract "gives the team just a reminder that I'm the leader of this team." Money doesn't buy leadership. Sanchez will have to prove it in the locker room and on the field.
March 10, 201214 yr So, they're giving Mark Sanchez two more seasons to prove himself. Or one season, and a very expensive back up.
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