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If we get Manning, we definitely need to draft a young QB to learn under him. Moore isn't terrible and he is good backup material but he isn't the future of this team or any team.

Google News'd it yesterday and I was seeing a lot of Dolphin favoritism but I haven't heard anything about expecting to land.

 

With that being said I expect the Dolphins to land Peyton Manning. It's a match made to be really. There's plenty of time for him to wrap his career up here with nobody standing in his way, and a young QB to train in whoever we draft to take his place when Peyton retires.

 

 

Exactly. And the Dolphins should have the cap space to land Peyton and Wayne. I can't imagine him going anywhere else. With that said, earlier today Peyton said that he expects to make a decision within a week, which should be hard considering he has received calls from 11 teams expressing interest already.

You said this:

Dolphins are expected to land him

 

You may expect them to land him, and they might be the plurality favorite or even the majority favorite (if those are even terms), but they are NOT "expected to land him." That says something along the lines of a contract in principle being in place or at least sources saying they're a clear-cut favorite, none of which is true.

 

Your comment was full of crap and/or poorly worded. That's about par for the course, though.

 

And ILMSF, I would definitely be pissed if he went to the Dolphins; I couldn't be a Jets fan and not be. But (even though I'm sure you were joking anyway), that certainly wasn't the reason for my comment.

Actually, mystikol, we kind of are. One source closed to the Manning family said there's an 85 percent chance Manning goes to Miami. I'll post it soon.

I know they're one of the favorites, but I still don't see anything that says "expected to land him" on ESPN.com or otherwise.

 

 

Squalls sources have already confirm this, what else do you need!?

Actually, mystikol, we kind of are. One source closed to the Manning family said there's an 85 percent chance Manning goes to Miami. I'll post it soon.

 

That may indeed be the situation, in which case I will smack myself in the face with a carp at that possibility.

 

But even if that was the case at 4:28 PM today, it wasn't posted when I asked for a source. I was told it was EVERYWHERE and that I'm clueless, which is stupid.

Can we change the title to this topic? Every time i see the word sight, I'm thinking SIGN, and get all excited.

I don't know why Miami is a "perfect match" any more than 6 other cities are.

 

 

Let's see why, help me out here people.

 

1. It's Miami (and sure it sucks for us poor people, but to the rich Miami is the place to be)

2. O-Line's pretty good.

3. He already has a house here.

4. AFC

5. Weather

6. Dolphin's cap space

7. It's Miami

8. You get to face the Bills and Jets twice, 4 wins right there.

9...

6.

The offensive line was 3rd to last in the NFL in sacks allowed. So no, the offensive line as it stands isn't pretty good. Long and Pouncey are fine, but there's a lot that needs fixing. I don't think a guy coming off four neck surgeries is going to be eager to stand behind the Miami line as it stands now.

 

He's not going to sign with Miami because of it being Miami and the nice weather. This isn't baseball season. He spends most of the year at his homes in Miami and Indy anyway. It won't make a difference if the team he plays for is Miami, Seattle, Washington, Antarctica, whatever.

 

Other teams have cap space. I don't think Peyton's going to care about cap space other than the fact that there's enough to bring in Saturday and Wayne along with him. I think just about every team going after Peyton has that kind of cap space.

 

Facing the Bills and Jets doesn't mean sh*t to him (and its not automatic wins). If he wanted easy wins he'll go to San Francisco and dominate the NFC West.

 

Even after all that is said (because I didn't think you painted a fair argument for him coming to Miami), Miami is the best fit.

 

This is mostly because the Dolphins are in the AFC (I believe the rumors that the family wants a Manning/Manning Super Bowl chance), and most importantly have the most talent out of all the teams courting him not named New York or San Francisco (which may not be courting him). It gives him a chance to be the man in another city, as well as the best chance to win a Super Bowl in the next three years and cement his status as one of the top 3 QB's to ever play the game.

Actually, mystikol, we kind of are. One source closed to the Manning family said there's an 85 percent chance Manning goes to Miami. I'll post it soon.

 

The only place reporting that is a Dolphins message board which said that Goldie reported it. Goldie is really, truly a terrible source. (As an LOLaside, that page also linked to another thread talking him reporting that Miami was going to trade for Dwayne Bowe 2 years ago.)

 

When that's substantiated by Schefter, or at least Mort or PFT, then I'll believe it. Not saying it's not the case, but this is far from a veritable report.

Because the Jets didn't beat Peyton the last time they faced him? :lol

 

 

Yeah... same team that went 2-14 the following year...

 

Sorry 2-14, not 2-16 (although if there were 18 games they would probably go 2-16).

Question for Dolfans:

- If Sanchez is worse than Moore and Henne;

- The Jets have been better than the Dolphins for 3 straights years; and

- The Dolphins are an automatic Super Bowl contender with Manning,

then how good would the Jets be with Peyton :lol

Because the Jets didn't beat Peyton the last time they faced him? :lol

 

 

Yeah... same team that went 2-16 the following year...

While I was kidding, that team had Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky, who are far worse than Matt Moore/Chad Henne.

Question for Dolfans:

- If Sanchez is worse than Moore and Henne;

- The Jets have been better than the Dolphins for 3 straights years; and

- The Dolphins are an automatic Super Bowl contender with Manning,

then how good would the Jets be with Peyton :lol

 

 

I mean, you can't objectively think Sanchez is much better than Moore or Henne, though.

Actually, mystikol, we kind of are. One source closed to the Manning family said there's an 85 percent chance Manning goes to Miami. I'll post it soon.

 

The only place reporting that is a Dolphins message board which said that Goldie reported it. Goldie is really, truly a terrible source. (As an LOLaside, that page also linked to another thread talking him reporting that Miami was going to trade for Dwayne Bowe 2 years ago.)

 

When that's substantiated by Schefter, or at least Mort or PFT, then I'll believe it. Not saying it's not the case, but this is far from a veritable report.

 

Yea, that's who I was going to link. It was the friend on the radio show who I was referring to, though.

 

I think you took the statemant that we are expected to sign him to literal. There aren't any contract negotiations but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant we're the favorites to land him and so far that is the case.

Actually, mystikol, we kind of are. One source closed to the Manning family said there's an 85 percent chance Manning goes to Miami. I'll post it soon.

 

The only place reporting that is a Dolphins message board which said that Goldie reported it. Goldie is really, truly a terrible source. (As an LOLaside, that page also linked to another thread talking him reporting that Miami was going to trade for Dwayne Bowe 2 years ago.)

 

When that's substantiated by Schefter, or at least Mort or PFT, then I'll believe it. Not saying it's not the case, but this is far from a veritable report.

 

Yea, that's who I was going to link. It was the friend on the radio show who I was referring to, though.

 

I think you took the statemant that we are expected to sign him to literal. There aren't any contract negotiations but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant we're the favorites to land him and so far that is the case.

Oh, so I shouldn't read his statement as what it actually said? Come on now.

 

And when I questioned it, he used lots of capital letter to show me how stupid I am! Instead of clarifying his comment -- if he even meant what you're alleging -- he did almost the opposite.

Question for Dolfans:

- If Sanchez is worse than Moore and Henne;

- The Jets have been better than the Dolphins for 3 straights years; and

- The Dolphins are an automatic Super Bowl contender with Manning,

then how good would the Jets be with Peyton :lol

 

 

Chad Henne did do more with less. But god, it's arbitrary if someone tells you that Henne is better than Sanchez and you take it to heart as if there's some real difference. They're both awful, awful QBs. It's hard to judge who's sh*t smells worse.

 

Matt Moore is a better QB than both of them.

Question for Dolfans:

- If Sanchez is worse than Moore and Henne;

- The Jets have been better than the Dolphins for 3 straights years; and

- The Dolphins are an automatic Super Bowl contender with Manning,

then how good would the Jets be with Peyton :lol

 

 

Chad Henne did do more with less. But god, it's arbitrary if someone tells you that Henne is better than Sanchez and you take it to heart as if there's some real difference. They're both awful, awful QBs. It's hard to judge who's sh*t smells worse.

 

Matt Moore is a better QB than both of them.

First, my post was clearly a troll. Second, even though I know what you mean, they are not really "awful" QBs. Below average, sure. But not awful.

 

And almost everyone here talking about how much Peyton would have around him in Miami, yet you want to say how Henne did Moore (lulz) with less than Sanchez. That seems incongruous.

 

And Sanchez'a run game and O-Line struggled this year, and his top 2 WRs quit on him. I get no pleasure from saying that, because I'd rather have a good team (overall) with a bad QB than vice versa. But that's the way it looked last year.

Don't get angry at me when I 'put words in your mouth' in other threads. Watch your pronouns.

 

Last year was completely different for the Jets. The year before that, Sanchez was pampered like a spoiled rich kid. Henne absolutely did more with less than Sanchez had.

 

And awful is good wording. They're both awful. Accept that.

Don't get angry at me when I 'put words in your mouth' in other threads. Watch your pronouns.

 

Last year was completely different for the Jets. The year before that, Sanchez was pampered like a spoiled rich kid. Henne absolutely did more with less than Sanchez had.

 

And awful is good wording. They're both awful. Accept that.

 

I don't know to which pronouns you're referring.

 

The year before Sanchez was a 22-year-old with 2 years of starting above HS football whose numbers improved quite a bit across the board. That's a terrible argument. It was last year, especially the last few games, where he seemed to make no progress and probably even regress.

 

If they're awful QBs, then Mario Chalmers is an awful point guard. He's not.

And almost everyone here talking about how much Peyton would have around him in Miami, yet you want to say how Henne did Moore (lulz) with less than Sanchez. That seems incongruous.

 

 

The way you've worded that is implying that I'm contradicting myself.

Sanchez finished 23rd in the NFL in QB rating last year.

27th the year before.

28th the year before.

 

He's pretty awful.

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