They just reported on ESPN that the Marlins are keeping JJ for next season

They just reported on ESPN that the Marlins are keeping JJ for next season

 

 

pending on any unforseen events, we know.

Almost 30 pages for Josh Johnson. I couldn't fathom the size of a Dwight Howard Rumors thread.

 

Edit:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1194617&start=1350

 

111 pages here.

http://forums.marlin...jols-to-angels/

 

 

pfft, rookie.

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-43001-start-18300.html

 

pfft, AAA player.

Jacob Brigham goes to Cubs in Soto trade -- DKnobler (@DKnobler)

Remember when Soto won Rookie of the Year?

 

Yeah, that was funny.

 

EDIT: Did not remember him being that awesome in '10...

Jacob Brigham goes to Cubs in Soto trade -- DKnobler (@DKnobler)

 

 

well i'll be. There goes the Buck throw in.

Jacob Brigham goes to Cubs in Soto trade -- DKnobler (@DKnobler)

 

 

well i'll be. There goes the Buck throw in.

 

Soto is having a Buck like year also lol.

The Texas/jj deal will be finished at 3:59 pm

The only way that happens is if Jurikson Profar and Mike Olt become Marlins by 3:59PM tomorrow.

Think about that.

Jacob Brigham goes to Cubs in Soto trade -- DKnobler (@DKnobler)

 

 

well i'll be. There goes the Buck throw in.

 

Buck is not a throw in, the guy is owed like another 2-3M this year and another 9M next year. Soto is making 4M this year, so owed about 1-1.5M and is arbitration eligible next year.

 

And you guys aren't really expecting Profar and Olt or Perez and Olt in a deal are you? Y'all wouldn't be ok with Olt, Grimm, Buckel, and another fringe guy?

Jacob Brigham goes to Cubs in Soto trade -- DKnobler (@DKnobler)

 

 

well i'll be. There goes the Buck throw in.

 

Buck is not a throw in, the guy is owed like another 2-3M this year and another 9M next year. Soto is making 4M this year, so owed about 1-1.5M and is arbitration eligible next year.

 

And you guys aren't really expecting Profar and Olt or Perez and Olt in a deal are you? Y'all wouldn't be ok with Olt, Grimm, Buckel, and another fringe guy?

 

The way the FO is making it, the Rangers would have to go big or go home.

LOL Texas don't even want to give up one of Profar/Olt/Perez. They were trying to make Leonys Martin the centerpiece of the trade for JJ all along.

LOL Texas don't even want to give up one of Profar/Olt/Perez. They were trying to make Leonys Martin the centerpiece of the trade for JJ all along.

 

Where have you acquired such controversial knowledge?

LOL Texas don't even want to give up one of Profar/Olt/Perez. They were trying to make Leonys Martin the centerpiece of the trade for JJ all along.

 

Where have you acquired such controversial knowledge?

 

I'd like to know this also. Martin for JJ is an insult.

Yea I've heard the Rangers didn't want to give up any of their top 3 prospects, so there might be some truth to this, I just never heard of or knew of any centerpiece to that trade. Never had a name until you dropped Martin right now.

espn.com

Buster Olney

 

Only the St. Louis Cardinals have a greater run differential than the Texas Rangers, and the Rangers rank fourth in the majors in runs. It's not as if Ron Washington's lineup is like the Houston Astros north.

 

Butt cracks in that relentless offensive attack have appeared this season, which goes a long way to explain why Texas has built a moat around its two top position-player prospects, Jurickson Profar and Mike Olt.

 

The days when the Rangers will need offensive help -- when Profar is perhaps the shortstop and Olt is manning first base or right field -- is probably not as far as we realize.

 

Josh Hamilton's slump has been well-documented, and noted by team president Nolan Ryan, a slide that only complicates the Rangers' decision about how much -- and how many years -- to offer Hamilton if and when he reaches free agency. Hamilton is swinging at more pitches out of the strike zone than ever, and he's missing more than ever, as these numbers from FanGraphs show.

 

Mike Napoli's batting average is down 93 points; his OPS has dropped more than 250 points. His contract talks with the Rangers were among those greatly affected by the Yadier Molina deal, and so there's no guarantee he'll be back next year or that he'll hit the rest of this season.

 

Nelson Cruz won't be a free agent until after next year, but he is extraordinarily streaky. He was the most dangerous hitter in the Texas lineup for a stretch in the postseason last year, and this year he went more than a month without a home run. And Cruz is 32 years old.

 

Michael Young is 35 years old and perhaps the most popular player in Rangers history other than Ryan. His batting average this year is 34 points below his career average, and his on-base percentage is down 82 points. What will he provide in August and September and October and next year in the final year of his contract? It's uncertain.

 

The 30-year-old Ian Kinsler is among the youngest regulars in the Texas lineup, and he is signed through 2017. But there has been a decline in his performance, as well.

 

Maybe Kinsler will bounce back. Maybe Hamilton and Nelson and Napoli will. Maybe Young will have a resurgence.

 

But the Rangers' front office must plan for the possibility that it needs to turn over a significant part of the lineup in the next calendar year, and Profar and Olt are the best internal options.

 

It didn't feel good for the Rangers to see Zack Greinke go to the Los Angeles Angels, and while Texas could really use an upgrade in its rotation -- especially with the chronically underrated Colby Lewis out of action -- the deadline might pass without the team adding a starting pitcher.

 

Within two years, Profar and Olt might serve as backbone pieces in the Texas lineup, and while the desire to get the last strike in the last inning of the World Series burns within everyone in the Rangers' organization, hanging on to those two was prudent and the best possible big-picture decision.

 

The Rangers had been willing to talk about Leonys Martin in a trade proposal for Josh Johnson, but they are said to have backed off after Johnson's erratic outing Sunday.

 

The Rangers are among the teams talking about Rafael Betancourt.

Leonis Martin seems like a pretty good player.

 

Leonys Martin OF – Age 24 - The Villa Clara Cuban Martin isn’t the most complete player in the Rangers organization, however he plays excellent defense, runs the bases very well, tremendous plate discipline, has some pop, and is an excellent contact hitter. He was hitting .344 with 5 HRs and 7 SB to go with a 20/15 K/BB ratio over 128 at bats with Round Rock before getting promoted to the Rangers almost a month ago. He’s played sparingly since the promotion, going 6 for 29 with a 5/3 K/BB ratio in 11 games.

 

I'll take him... Along with Olt... and Buckel or Grimm

So basically if JJ destroys the Padres of all teams, they think he's fit to be traded for? But if he does poorly forget the trade? How do you base such a huge trade off of one game... Especially since when you consider everyone has tough games at times and he was maybe mentally affected by all the trade talk and potentially pitching his last game as a Marlin. Nolan Ryan is just jealous of his youth and studness.

Forget it, I feel disrespected now. They can keep whatever unproven prospects the have and lose the World Series for a third straight year.

Honestly if they offered let's say Leonis Martin, Grimm, Cody Buckel, and a fringe guy, it's really not that bad of an offer. The Rangers are disgustingly deep with good prospects. But we're just not going to trade JJ unless we fill a major hole and those guys don't fill major holes. If JJ were a rental, a trade centered around Leonis Martin would get done, but oh well. Still time, let's see. But it seems like the Rangers already made one small trade and probably have their gameplan figured out.

 

Let's just hope we manage to trade Carlos Lee or Zambrano for something.

I also heard they were gonna try and move Ogando back into the rotation and trade for a reliever.

Honestly if they offered let's say Leonis Martin, Grimm, Cody Buckel, and a fringe guy, it's really not that bad of an offer. The Rangers are disgustingly deep with good prospects. But we're just not going to trade JJ unless we fill a major hole and those guys don't fill major holes. If JJ were a rental, a trade centered around Leonis Martin would get done, but oh well. Still time, let's see. But it seems like the Rangers already made one small trade and probably have their gameplan figured out.

 

Let's just hope we manage to trade Carlos Lee or Zambrano for something.

 

Honestly if they offered let's say Leonis Martin, Grimm, Cody Buckel, and a fringe guy, it's really not that bad of an offer. The Rangers are disgustingly deep with good prospects. But we're just not going to trade JJ unless we fill a major hole and those guys don't fill major holes. If JJ were a rental, a trade centered around Leonis Martin would get done, but oh well. Still time, let's see. But it seems like the Rangers already made one small trade and probably have their gameplan figured out.

 

Let's just hope we manage to trade Carlos Lee or Zambrano for something.

 

 

I just have a hard time picturing how we're going to become a contender with a massive hole at 3B. It's more than obvious that we need one, and for the Rangers to not be willing to tend to our needs but rather have us tend to theirs doesn't seem right. I'm glad that trade didn't go through. I'm absolutely fine with keeping JJ for another year.

 

yea, and trade Lee and Zambrano for whatever you can get.

I told ya that bad start by jj hurt his value even more. I hope we do something, anything tonight/tomorrow.