July 14, 201412 yr It's cool that the big man is going to be in the home run contest and that he will be in the big game... but I am worried about what will happen after the game and the rest of his career. Look at what happened to Hanely after he was in the Home Run contest and the game... He has NEVER been the same since then. His career has gone way down since that game. He was maybe the best player in the MLB before that contest and now he is barely average and is always injured also. And We all know about Uggla. He still has the power but his batting average is as bad as a pitcher ever since the contest and game. I know some people will say its a big coincidence but come on both of them? It really makes me nervous to see him taking his hacks tonight and I wish he would get sick or it would rain or something because we need him the second half. This team can't compete without Stanton being as awesome as he has been this year.
July 14, 201412 yr Author That's a lot of over thinking. dude its not over thinking. You can see it in the stats before and after. Neither of those players has been the same at all and it is reason to be concerned. It happened to bobby Abreu too after his big performance his career was never the same. Its the curse of the all star game it seems like. I just don't know why they need to play it just do like the nfl nobody watches that pro bowl you just get the honor of being named to it why bother playing the game? makes zero sense the season is too long. why risk injury and messing up your swing???
July 14, 201412 yr dude its not over thinking. You can see it in the stats before and after. Neither of those players has been the same at all and it is reason to be concerned. It happened to bobby Abreu too after his big performance his career was never the same. Its the curse of the all star game it seems like. I just don't know why they need to play it just do like the nfl nobody watches that pro bowl you just get the honor of being named to it why bother playing the game? makes zero sense the season is too long. why risk injury and messing up your swing??? It IS over thinking. First of all, every player is different. Can't compare Hanley to Uggla to Stanton. Second, you can't name all the players that have had problems with the home run derby and then exclude all the ones that haven't. It's a cool story bro, but it's nonsense.
July 14, 201412 yr dude its not over thinking. You can see it in the stats before and after. Neither of those players has been the same at all and it is reason to be concerned. It happened to bobby Abreu too after his big performance his career was never the same. Its the curse of the all star game it seems like. I just don't know why they need to play it just do like the nfl nobody watches that pro bowl you just get the honor of being named to it why bother playing the game? makes zero sense the season is too long. why risk injury and messing up your swing??? Hanley's last year and this year disagrees with you pal
July 14, 201412 yr Author It IS over thinking. First of all, every player is different. Can't compare Hanley to Uggla to Stanton. Second, you can't name all the players that have had problems with the home run derby and then exclude all the ones that haven't. It's a cool story bro, but it's nonsense. It is well documented and proven that the home run contest causes a player to have a bad second half. If someone does good in the second half then it is not the normal case. it is a hitting coaches worst nightmare coming true when he sees his player in the batter box in the contest. trust me.
July 14, 201412 yr Author Hanley's last year and this year disagrees with you pal no Hanley only played half the season last year. And this year he only has 11 homeruns and is batting 275... Marcell Ozuna is having a better year then him.... That is not the player he was before. That is not the numbers of the games best player. Not at all. He is average now. That's my point. And we already talked about Uggla. Look it up if you don't believe me. I'm not making up this.
July 14, 201412 yr Link me to these documents. http://sabr.org/research/home-run-derby-curse-fact-or-fiction CONCLUSION Home Run Derby curse, fact or fiction? We have no choice but to conclude that it’s fiction. If we consider all the ways that the statistics should behave if there is no curse, we find that they consistently match that model. Certainly, some players will have a decline in power-hitting statistics from the first half of the season to the second after participating in the Derby, but it is clear from the analysis that this would have occurred for those players regardless of whether they chose to participate or not.
July 14, 201412 yr no Hanley only played half the season last year. And this year he only has 11 homeruns and is batting 275... Marcell Ozuna is having a better year then him.... That is not the player he was before. That is not the numbers of the games best player. Not at all. He is average now. That's my point. And we already talked about Uggla. Look it up if you don't believe me. I'm not making up this. Hanley is OPSing 50 pts higher than ozuna and has 10 more SB than him this year you goofball.
July 14, 201412 yr Is there anything we can do to pull Stanton out of the HR derby tonight before it's too late? Squall you must know someone. why didn't you post this before today Teal Deal?
July 14, 201412 yr Author Is there anything we can do to pull Stanton out of the HR derby tonight before it's too late? Squall you must know someone. why didn't you post this before today Teal Deal? I just signed up as a member. I found this site online yesterday. I like it.
July 14, 201412 yr there are not that many sites for the marlins fans. The marlins fans are few and far between. Either way, glad you found our little nest.
July 14, 201412 yr Author Teal Deal, what's your favorite kind of beer? Corona? corona is ok. I like coors light best. silver bullet never lets you down bro.
July 14, 201412 yr Teal Deal, what's your favorite kind of beer? Corona? Why are you asking? You're too young to drink, kid.
July 14, 201412 yr Author Can't believe nobody has asked the question... should we be worried? yes you should
July 14, 201412 yr No fact checking at all. Two years after Uggla competed in the home run derby, he had the best year of his career [.287 average with an .877 OPS with 33 homers and 105 RBI]. He sucks now because ... who knows? But it clearly wasn't the home run derby. Hanley's second half numbers in 2010 BARELY dropped off from the first half, and in 2011 he had a myriad of injuries. As someone else pointed out, this year and last year disagree with you, albeit he has had a bit of an injury bug, but that has nothing to do with the home run derby. I'd like to point out Ryan Howard in 2006. He had 28 homers in the first half while batting .278, went on to win the home run derby. What did he do in the second half? Batted .355 and hit THIRTY homers in the second half. Dude won the MVP that year.
July 14, 201412 yr As I said in another thread. Comparing Hanley and Lowell to Stanton is wrong. One is a pure power hitter, the other two are not. Hanley's problem's begin and end upstairs in the head. Plus if he didn't try to make himself into Cecil Fielder he would have been fine. If Hanley would have just stayed in good shape with a lean toward the slender physique he would have been fine. The funny part is when he was leaner he was able do it all at the plate plus hit plenty of HRs. Edit: And how can you mess you that recent junk swing? If anything this contest might straighten his swing out.
July 14, 201412 yr I'm worried about all the pressure and hype on him in the derby. I hope he doesn't choke!! :biggrin: Also, what's up with the earrings, G? .
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