April 29, 201511 yr Feels so good to win this game. I almost cried when Ramos gave up the three run hit. I feel like Ozuna is due for a home run, an important one at that! This site (and team) is full of criers it turns out
April 29, 201511 yr This site (and team) is full of criers it turns out A bunch of ballers bawlers?
April 29, 201511 yr Dumb ass state. They don't even promote their teams in their ad. They know the Mets will choke!!!
April 29, 201511 yr Hey look the starting rotation is actually pretty good. It's almost like you can't judge an entire season based on a few games worth of samples amirite? Starters are 7th out of 15 in ERA (so average), while our FIP is 11th (5th worst) and our xFIP is 13th (3rd worst). They're also third worst in IP per start. Our .239 BABIP is lowest in the NL (Lowest in majors, actually) If you're high off the starting rotation after a few low hit games, you're probably going to be disappointed in the long run.
April 29, 201511 yr This site (and team) is full of criers it turns out Can you really blame us considering the ups and downs over the years?
April 29, 201511 yr Braves blew 9-1 leads game. lol I just about laughed my ass off seeing the highlights and Uggla coming through as the highest paid Brave. lol.
April 29, 201511 yr Starters are 7th out of 15 in ERA (so average), while our FIP is 11th (5th worst) and our xFIP is 13th (3rd worst). They're also third worst in IP per start. Our .239 BABIP is lowest in the NL (Lowest in majors, actually) If you're high off the starting rotation after a few low hit games, you're probably going to be disappointed in the long run. But we get Henderson back soon. That should help. That starter ERA is also inflated by that first Latos game. Not saying we should ignore it happened, but 3/5th of the rotation has an ERA of 3.4 or lower and the two guys who don't are coming off starts of 7.1 IP 0 ER and 6.1 IP 2 ER. I think the rotation is pretty decent once Alvarez is back. Alvarez/Latos/Cosart/Koehler/Haren with Phelps available at a moment's notice is an improvement over the Carlos Zambrano's, Rick VandenHurk's, and the Mark Hendrickson's of the world. Can you really blame us considering the ups and downs over the years? Yes, because ups and downs happen all the time to every team. You can differentiate the intelligent fan from the average fan by the way they react to adversity that occurs over the course of the season.
April 29, 201511 yr Hey look the starting rotation is actually pretty good. It's almost like you can't judge an entire season based on a few games worth of samples amirite? But you're doing the same here lololol
April 29, 201511 yr You can say that. I can also say I'm reacting more to the group calling this the worst rotation in baseball after a few games and this run of games showing that their more of a middle of the road rotation which is pretty good. If our bullpen starts pitching like it's capable of and the offense gets to where it should this team could go on more runs like this 6 out of 7 run. But if you want to me rant and call Latos the worst pitcher ever and cry about how our starters can never go beyond 5 innings then I'm happy to do that.
April 29, 201511 yr You can say that. I can also say I'm reacting more to the group calling this the worst rotation in baseball after a few games and this run of games showing that their more of a middle of the road rotation which is pretty good. If our bullpen starts pitching like it's capable of and the offense gets to where it should this team could go on more runs like this 6 out of 7 run. I don't think anyone was calling it the worst rotation in baseball. Just that it was bad. It more-so was a "what's wrong with the team, offense or starting pitching" thing and everyone who thought the offense was a problem didn't understand that offense as a whole is down in the league. We entered the day 4th in runs in the NL.
April 29, 201511 yr But we get Henderson back soon. That should help. That starter ERA is also inflated by that first Latos game. Not saying we should ignore it happened, but 3/5th of the rotation has an ERA of 3.4 or lower and the two guys who don't are coming off starts of 7.1 IP 0 ER and 6.1 IP 2 ER. I think the rotation is pretty decent once Alvarez is back. Alvarez/Latos/Cosart/Koehler/Haren with Phelps available at a moment's notice is an improvement over the Carlos Zambrano's, Rick VandenHurk's, and the Mark Hendrickson's of the world. Haren and Koehler should not be in a rotation together. ZiPs projects Haren to have a 4.43 ERA the rest of the way out and Koehler 4.39. I agree they'll probably be around there. That's really bad in today's game. Keep in mind, a 3.65 ERA is the NL ERA right now.
April 29, 201511 yr But if you want to me rant and call Latos the worst pitcher ever and cry about how our starters can never go beyond 5 innings then I'm happy to do that. Settle down brah, I'm the one that said SP wasn't the reason why we were 3-10 and others were flaming me for it. I'm just pointing out the fault in your logic.
April 29, 201511 yr Haren and Koehler should not be in a rotation together. ZiPs projects Haren to have a 4.43 ERA the rest of the way out and Koehler 4.39. I agree they'll probably be around there. That's really bad in today's game. Keep in mind, a 3.65 ERA is the NL ERA right now. DH please. kThnxBye.
April 29, 201511 yr Maybe our pitchers are doing better because Salty just sucked at everything, including calling games.
April 29, 201511 yr While I don't think the pitching will hold up like this, I also don't think they'll be as bad as that one little stretch at the start of the year. Here's hoping Latos pulls it all together tomorrow
April 29, 201511 yr But we get Henderson back soon. That should help. That starter ERA is also inflated by that first Latos game. Not saying we should ignore it happened, but 3/5th of the rotation has an ERA of 3.4 or lower and the two guys who don't are coming off starts of 7.1 IP 0 ER and 6.1 IP 2 ER. I think the rotation is pretty decent once Alvarez is back. Alvarez/Latos/Cosart/Koehler/Haren with Phelps available at a moment's notice is an improvement over the Carlos Zambrano's, Rick VandenHurk's, and the Mark Hendrickson's of the world. Yes, because ups and downs happen all the time to every team. You can differentiate the intelligent fan from the average fan by the way they react to adversity that occurs over the course of the season. How many other teams are owned and operated by Jeffrey Loria?
April 29, 201511 yr Settle down brah, I'm the one that said SP wasn't the reason why we were 3-10 and others were flaming me for it. I'm just pointing out the fault in your logic. Ha flaw in my logic. Please tell me that flaw. It was a sarcastic comment making fun of the doomsdayers at the start of the year. And by the way, it's absolutely wrong to say starting pitching wasn't a reason for the 3-10 start when they combined for a 5+ ERA early on. I argued for them back then and still do obviously, but they were definitely part of the problem even if the offense was just as putrid.
April 29, 201511 yr Ha flaw in my logic. Please tell me that flaw. It was a sarcastic comment making fun of the doomsdayers at the start of the year. And by the way, it's absolutely wrong to say starting pitching wasn't a reason for the 3-10 start when they combined for a 5+ ERA early on. I argued for them back then and still do obviously, but they were definitely part of the problem even if the offense was just as putrid. Because you're saying, hey look, our rotation is allright after all, while then saying 'It's almost like you can't judge an entire season based on a few games worth of samples amirite?' but it's the exact same thing you're doing in your first statement. I don't know man, seems like some flawed logic to me. You do say 'imirite?' just at the end, which I guess it's implying sarcasm. However, I choose to ignore that. I'm an idiot.
April 29, 201511 yr Maybe our pitchers are doing better because Salty just sucked at everything, including calling games. He couldn't even commit a crime and frame someone else for it
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