Admin Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 https://www.baseballamerica.com/international/julio-pablo-martinez-cleared-sign/#gUVQZbmmSYOpCg9o.97 Marlins are currently one of the favorites to land him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Is this the same Cuban OF they were talking about like a month ago? Edit: Yes it is. I should read the articles before posting stupid questions. Lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Is this the same Cuban OF they were talking about like a month ago? Edit: Yes it is. I should read the articles before posting stupid questions. Lesson learned. Partially my fault. I was too lazy to dig up the old thread and bump it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Is this the same Cuban OF they were talking about like a month ago? Edit: Yes it is. I should read the articles before posting stupid questions. Lesson learned. Dont blame you, ive only memorized this guy in my head as "the cuban OF" and every time some one says "martinez" it takes me a second to register. This would be an enormous signing though. Would give us an OF surplus of 4 legit OF prospects in Brinson, Harrison, Sierra, and Martinez on top of Lee and Miller as kind of fringe 4th OF types who could be more. Plus not all of them are ready this year so we could have a year of evaluation to see which ones work out and if in the best case scenario they all do and they are all ready next year (the 4 top guys will be at least) we could either move one to a position of need or trade one to fill another hole. That is another reason why organizational depth can be so important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Worst case, you take one of these outfielders and put him at first lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Worst case, you take one of these outfielders and put him at first lol yup. or just flip them for a position of need. Not all will be ready this year anyways so we have a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 ALL THE OUTFIELDERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 If the Marlins are so gung ho about aquiring prospects, why in the world did they give Seattle a million dollars of international pool space in the Dee Gordon trade ? Makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 If the Marlins are so gung ho about aquiring prospects, why in the world did they give Seattle a million dollars of international pool space in the Dee Gordon trade ? Makes no sense. Yeah I said that before and no one here backed me up. They talk about how it could be traded for again but that’s pointless to me. I don’t think Neidert is a good enough prospect to side track yourself for, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 If that prohibits them from signing Martinez in this signing period, it will be a terrible move. For heaven sakes, if they are going to tear the thing down, why can't they be smart about it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 And giving away some int'l money doesn't mean it's all gone. They can give Seattle some and still have plenty left to do whatever they want here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 And giving away some int'l money doesn't mean it's all gone. They can give Seattle some and still have plenty left to do whatever they want here. I disagree.If they have plenty, they would not be talking about signing Martinez in the next signing period (july)...and there is also the unique current situation where the Braves IFA's have been granted free agency and are back on the market as part of the penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 And giving away some int'l money doesn't mean it's all gone. They can give Seattle some and still have plenty left to do whatever they want here. so the Marlins won the Int Pool Money Lotto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 The Rangers are the only team listed as being able to get Martinez early and that’s because they traded for a lot of extra international money when they wanted Ohtani. How much do the Marlins have now, and what will it take to sign Martinez ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydawg Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Yeah I said that before and no one here backed me up. They talk about how it could be traded for again but that’s pointless to me. I don’t think Neidert is a good enough prospect to side track yourself for, but whatever. Neidert is a nice propsect and so is Christopher Torres. I don't mind them using that money in that situation. Julio Martinez wasn't even on anyone's radar at the time. Either way, if the Fish are smart they we will sell Martinez on two things. The opportunity to get to the MLB quickly because of the rebuild and the latin community in Miami. Especially the whole Cuban thing. I'm sure that his agent can convince him to wait 3 or 4 months to sign if they come to a handshake agreement with the Fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Neidert is a nice propsect and so is Christopher Torres. I don't mind them using that money in that situation. Julio Martinez wasn't even on anyone's radar at the time. Either way, if the Fish are smart they we will sell Martinez on two things. The opportunity to get to the MLB quickly because of the rebuild and the latin community in Miami. Especially the whole Cuban thing. I'm sure that his agent can convince him to wait 3 or 4 months to sign if they come to a handshake agreement with the Fish. You make a couple of good points but Martinez was a known quantity prior to the Dee Gordon deal. Texas just traded a player to get $350,000 more, and they already had over 2 million. I hope you're right but I just don't think he's going to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 get it done jeets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 get it done jeets Speaking of jeets, let's not forget his first deal that he made with the Yankees to get Cooper he gave up $250,000 worth of bonus pool space. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Speaking of jeets, let's not forget his first deal that he made with the Yankees to get Cooper he gave up $250,000 worth of bonus pool space. Nice. that was a good deal that will have netted us 2 roster players this year with upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydawg Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 You make a couple of good points but Martinez was a known quantity prior to the Dee Gordon deal. Texas just traded a player to get $350,000 more, and they already had over 2 million. I hope you're right but I just don't think he's going to wait. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/02/julio-pablo-martinez-cuban-outfielder-free-agent-rangers-marlins-yankees.html They had less than 2 million before the money from the Reds and probably are still under 2 million even after. He'd be smart to wait a few more months. Texas had $3.535MM in pool allotments to spend on Ohtani before he opted to sign with the division-rival Angels. They’ve since reallocated some of their pool by signing shortstops Yenci Pena (for $675K) and Keithron Moss (for $800K) as well as outfielder D’Vaughn Knowles (for $500K). That’d still leave as much as $1.56MM to offer Martinez to begin his pro career in the current signing period (though it’s possible the pool is a bit lesser depending on whether Texas has made some smaller-scale signings that were not widely reported) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/02/julio-pablo-martinez-cuban-outfielder-free-agent-rangers-marlins-yankees.html They had less than 2 million before the money from the Reds and probably are still under 2 million even after. He'd be smart to wait a few more months. Texas had $3.535MM in pool allotments to spend on Ohtani before he opted to sign with the division-rival Angels. They’ve since reallocated some of their pool by signing shortstops Yenci Pena (for $675K) and Keithron Moss (for $800K) as well as outfielder D’Vaughn Knowles (for $500K). That’d still leave as much as $1.56MM to offer Martinez to begin his pro career in the current signing period (though it’s possible the pool is a bit lesser depending on whether Texas has made some smaller-scale signings that were not widely reported) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/02/julio-pablo-martinez-cuban-outfielder-free-agent-rangers-marlins-yankees.html They had less than 2 million before the money from the Reds and probably are still under 2 million even after. He'd be smart to wait a few more months. Texas had $3.535MM in pool allotments to spend on Ohtani before he opted to sign with the division-rival Angels. They’ve since reallocated some of their pool by signing shortstops Yenci Pena (for $675K) and Keithron Moss (for $800K) as well as outfielder D’Vaughn Knowles (for $500K). That’d still leave as much as $1.56MM to offer Martinez to begin his pro career in the current signing period (though it’s possible the pool is a bit lesser depending on whether Texas has made some smaller-scale signings that were not widely reported) That's good info. Thanks. It looks like 9 of the 12 brave prospects that were declared free agents have signed with other teams. I'm perplexed as to why the Marlins didn't nab at least one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I'm perplexed as to why the Marlins didn't nab at least one. I've seen Jeter accused of many asinine things but kidnapping is not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish20 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 That's good info. Thanks. It looks like 9 of the 12 brave prospects that were declared free agents have signed with other teams. I'm perplexed as to why the Marlins didn't nab at least one. They probably had previous relationships based on who was in the running for them before they signed with the braves. It's going to take a year or 2 for the marlins to start developing relationships in the IFA market with Denbo given that we barely ever properly utilized IFA under the previous ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 "The Rangers are now considered the favorite in the pursuit of Cuban prospect Julio Pablo Martinez, according to MLB.com’s Jesse Sanchez (via Twitter)." Ok,bye bye Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgilCaine Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 After digging around quite a bit, it looks like the Marlins have less than $250,000 to spend on Martinez in this signing period. He would be smart to wait until the next int signing period, but I think that's going to be a tough sell for him to wait rather than getting money now and starting his minor league career.Regardless of how this turns out I think the Marlins should take advantage of their location and rebuilding situation as rydawg pointed out, and be more aggressive in the international market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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