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Pitching depth on display last night

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How come no one on here is talking about Sandy having a good game yesterday? 

 

Agreed.

 

Even though some here say he’s never shown an ability to be a major league starter, that wasn’t just his first or just his second gem of the season.

 

 

How come no one on here is talking about Sandy having a good game yesterday? 

 

They're too busy calculating the metrics from the game to see if he actually did toss a gem or if our eyes deceived us.  I'm sure his BABPIPMADOO was terrible so the results were just luck.  LMAO Just fucking with everyone.

 

Seriously, his stuff is great.  The fact that he can keep his velocity up in the high 90's late in the game is great.  Seems like his biggest problem is confidence. When they can get  him to be aggressive, he's almost unhittable.  I'm excited to see him continue to improve.  #SpareParts

 

 

6 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

 

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Seems like with Gallen making the jump he did this season, Neidert has sort of been forgotten about because he's been injured.  Neidert was much more highly regarded than Gallen before the season.  Hope he can finish the season strong and get back on track.

 

 

They're too busy calculating the metrics from the game to see if he actually did toss a gem or if our eyes deceived us.  I'm sure his BABPIPMADOO was terrible so the results were just luck.  LMAO Just fucking with everyone.

 

Seriously, his stuff is great.  The fact that he can keep his velocity up in the high 90's late in the game is great.  Seems like his biggest problem is confidence. When they can get  him to be aggressive, he's almost unhittable.  I'm excited to see him continue to improve.  #SpareParts

 

God dammit, Rydawg, how many times do I have to tell you, nobody gives a shit about BABPIPMADOO anymore, it's all about BALLSACK+% now. If you're going to insult us, at least get the right bullshit term!

 

And I agree - he looked great last night from the first pitch to ... well, into the 8th at least - maybe a couple pitches could have been better in that inning but either way, he did very well and I want to see more of that from him. Just go after hitters and not try to be perfect.

 

 

How come no one on here is talking about Sandy having a good game yesterday? 

 

Meanwhile, beyond Sandy Alcantara’s tremendous start... -Glenn Geffner

 

Sounds like Geff was talking about it. Did you even read the original post?

 

 

Seems like with Gallen making the jump he did this season, Neidert has sort of been forgotten about because he's been injured.  Neidert was much more highly regarded than Gallen before the season.  Hope he can finish the season strong and get back on track.

 

I like Sixto for obvious reasons, but my two favorite pitchers in the system are Braxton Garret and Nick Neidert. Both have put up tremendous numbers in their non injury ridden seasons. Both posses the same 'pitchability' trait that everyone was raving on about Gallen. Both have better pure stuff than Gallen.

 

 

I like Sixto for obvious reasons, but my two favorite pitchers in the system are Braxton Garret and Nick Neidert. Both have put up tremendous numbers in their non injury ridden seasons. Both posses the same 'pitchability' trait that everyone was raving on about Gallen. Both have better pure stuff than Gallen.

 

How can anyone be better than Gallen who is Cy Young 2.0?

 

 

I looked up a few stats on Sandy. His chase rates and contact rates are not much different than guys like Gallen and Caleb Smith. In fact he has given up less hard contact than the two of them. He even throws more strikes than Gallen.

 

The only reason I can think of to explain his stark walk and strikeout rates compared to them would be that it is a mental issue. That he is not being aggressive enough in the zone at times and that gets him into trouble. This is reflected in the fact that Sandy has probably had the best starts as well as the worst starts of the year on this pitching staff.

 

 

How can anyone be better than Gallen who is Cy Young 2.0?

 

They have better pure stuff, but Gallen is a better pitcher because he resurrected the OG Cy Young and did a voodoo ritual to steal his pitching juju.

 

 

Has anyone watched Daniel Castano pitch? Is he actually good? On paper he looks like he is the second coming of Zac Gallen. He has made AA look not good. Does anyone know if he will get starts in triple A? Should he be on our radar? Did we really get 3 pieces and Sierra from the Cardinals???

 

 

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On paper he looks like he is the second coming of Zac Gallen

 

Calm the fuck down. Don't just go around throwing out comparisons to Gallen. It makes you look ignorant. Nobody will ever come close to that level of talent.

 

 

Has anyone watched Daniel Castano pitch?

 

Definitely. He's been playing baseball most of his life, I'm sure plenty of people have watched him pitch.

 

 

I looked up a few stats on Sandy. His chase rates and contact rates are not much different than guys like Gallen and Caleb Smith. In fact he has given up less hard contact than the two of them. He even throws more strikes than Gallen.

 

The only reason I can think of to explain his stark walk and strikeout rates compared to them would be that it is a mental issue. That he is not being aggressive enough in the zone at times and that gets him into trouble. This is reflected in the fact that Sandy has probably had the best starts as well as the worst starts of the year on this pitching staff.

 

This has been a point of controversy all year. Multiple times on this forum people have suggested sending him down. But in terms of swing and miss rate, and hard hit rate he is probably the best pitcher on the team. The thing he is missing isn't mental, I think it's understanding.

 

He has the best stuff on the staff, but he has no idea how to get outs. I've watched enough of the games he pitches that I always kind of feel that he isn't setting guys up, he isn't thinking about the at bat as a game, he is just throwing. Sometimes the batter chases sometimes they don't. If he ever figures out how to set guys up, how to do the mind part of baseball he is a cy young candidate. His stuff is that much better than everyone else's. 

 

 

How can anyone be better than Gallen who is Cy Young 2.0?

 

How long are we doing the Gallen Cy Young gag?  

 

3 more weeks?  3 more months?  

 

Are there a lot if people still actively complaining about the trade on this board? 

 

For what it’s worth, I think when all is said and done we will win the Jazz for Gallen trade.  Gallen’s advanced numbers show he is due for regression. 

 

 

How long are we doing the Gallen Cy Young gag?  

 

3 more weeks?  3 more months?  

 

Are there a lot if people still actively complaining about the trade on this board? 

 

For what it’s worth, I think when all is said and done we will win the Jazz for Gallen trade.  Gallen’s advanced numbers show he is due for regression. 

 

I feel like it will keep showing up in ever decreasing frequency until Gallen has had as many starts with Arizona as he has had with the Marlins.

 

 

I was waiting for you to let me know when it's enough. 

 

Oh good.  It’s enough. 

 

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God dammit, Rydawg, how many times do I have to tell you, nobody gives a shit about BABPIPMADOO anymore, it's all about BALLSACK+% now. If you're going to insult us, at least get the right bullshit term!

 

And I agree - he looked great last night from the first pitch to ... well, into the 8th at least - maybe a couple pitches could have been better in that inning but either way, he did very well and I want to see more of that from him. Just go after hitters and not try to be perfect.

 

Just having some fun.  Not trying to insult anyone.  I am guilty of being lame with my made up stat.  BALLSACK+% is much more creative.  LMAO

 

 

@FishFan95 does have a good point though, it'll be interesting to compare Gallen's numbers per team once he reaches the same number of starts for each club. 

 

For an added bonus, let's check Gallen's numbers compared to Alcantara when Gallen has a full year under his belt. 

 

 

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