November 27, 20196 yr I am not saying it is impossible, but I'm in a "Believe it when I see it" mode and I currently see the words from Jeter as empty and an excuse. Hopefully I am wrong about that, I'd love to be wrong about it. 100% fair... and I wasn't disagreeing with you to blindly support Jeter either. I've just heard enough of Jeter's weak words to know that they could be totally false too. I'm in believe it when I see it mode too but I also didn't think his words on Monday were meaningful enough to be up in arms about. It feels like most don't believe anything he ever says but suddenly he says this and we buy every letter of it?
November 27, 20196 yr 100% fair... and I wasn't disagreeing with you to blindly support Jeter either. I've just heard enough of Jeter's weak words to know that they could be totally false too. I'm in believe it when I see it mode too but I also didn't think his words on Monday were meaningful enough to be up in arms about. It feels like most don't believe anything he ever says but suddenly he says this and we buy every letter of it? But he said two things - it'll be a "challenging year" and that we could be in on FA targets. I'm more inclined to believe the former rather than the latter - or that the latter just means garbage heap FA guys that they sign to pretend they signed people. That said, I fully realize the Loria years have jaded my view of things.
November 27, 20196 yr But he said two things - it'll be a "challenging year" and that we could be in on FA targets. I'm more inclined to believe the former rather than the latter - or that the latter just means garbage heap FA guys that they sign to pretend they signed people. That said, I fully realize the Loria years have jaded my view of things. You know what overcomes playing for a challenging franchise for 1-2 years before the prospects are ready: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Payroll is low $40s right now. How hard is it to frontload Castellanos or Ozuna for $20, sign 4 other guys (two bench bats, innings eater, and a reliever) for cumulatively another $12+ million, and you'll have an opening day payroll of $75 million? That would be third lowest in baseball opening day, and in reality, the lowest because Chen and Castro's dead money would put their on the field payroll the lowest.
November 27, 20196 yr You know what overcomes playing for a challenging franchise for 1-2 years before the prospects are ready: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Payroll is low $40s right now. How hard is it to frontload Castellanos or Ozuna for $20, sign 4 other guys (two bench bats, innings eater, and a reliever) for cumulatively another $12+ million, and you'll have an opening day payroll of $75 million? That would be third lowest in baseball opening day, and in reality, the lowest because Chen and Castro's dead money would put their on the field payroll the lowest. You don't have to convince me that's the right plan. I just have doubts that they'll do it.
November 27, 20196 yr $75 million opening day Alfaro, Wallach Cooper, "Cheap Veteran type" Isan Rojas, Berti Anderson, "Cheap Veteran type" Castellanos Brinson, Sierra H. Ramirez Sandy, Caleb, Pablo, Urena, "Cheap Veteran type" Stanek, Steckenrider, Brice, Brigham, "Cheap Veteran type" Garcia, Conley 26th man - E. Hernandez, Yamamoto, Dugger, and rotating arms on 40 man Dead money - Chen, Castro We like that team right? Monte, L. Diaz, J. Sanchez, Sixto, Neidert, Guzman, and likely others like Jazz, Cabrera, Rogers, Vesia, etc. are going to break through this season and wipe out the last 7-10 roster spots on the 25 man with turnover They'll need to sign nothing but maybe a bench guy or two for cheap in 2021. Payroll won't rise!
November 27, 20196 yr You don't have to convince me that's the right plan. I just have doubts that they'll do it. Yea I mean they likely aren't going to do it to pay off the "debt" Loria left them, but it's just insane to me because when you BUILD a business, you need to have a good product. It's not show up and we'll buy free agents. It's, we're going to make something fun to watch so you do show up. And when you can do that and have a bottom 3 payroll, while BUILDing for 2022 with frontloading a major free agent bat and an Anderson buyout, I'm just yelling WHY WHY WHY WHY
November 27, 20196 yr Author $75 million opening day Alfaro, Wallach Cooper, "Cheap Veteran type" Isan Rojas, Berti Anderson, "Cheap Veteran type" Castellanos Brinson, Sierra H. Ramirez Sandy, Caleb, Pablo, Urena, "Cheap Veteran type" Stanek, Steckenrider, Brice, Brigham, "Cheap Veteran type" Garcia, Conley 26th man - E. Hernandez, Yamamoto, Dugger, and rotating arms on 40 man Dead money - Chen, Castro We like that team right? Monte, L. Diaz, J. Sanchez, Sixto, Neidert, Guzman, and likely others like Jazz, Cabrera, Rogers, Vesia, etc. are going to break through this season and wipe out the last 7-10 roster spots on the 25 man with turnover They'll need to sign nothing but maybe a bench guy or two for cheap in 2021. Payroll won't rise! It really is so simple, yet Jeter says it is complicated or um "challenging".
November 27, 20196 yr Yea I mean they likely aren't going to do it to pay off the "debt" Loria left them, but it's just insane to me because when you BUILD a business, you need to have a good product. It's not show up and we'll buy free agents. It's, we're going to make something fun to watch so you do show up. And when you can do that and have a bottom 3 payroll, while BUILDing for 2022 with frontloading a major free agent bat and an Anderson buyout, I'm just yelling WHY WHY WHY WHY I know I won't be inclined to attend many games if they're a dumpster fire again. And that's someone that sees the plan.
November 27, 20196 yr I know I won't be inclined to attend many games if they're a dumpster fire again. And that's someone that sees the plan. Why would we? It's one thing if it's a 1 year experiment like the Dolphins where they cleared the cap space and got the draft picks quick and presumably next year is going to be a radically different team. But year 3 of new ownership after clearing the books and being 1+ year out from the prospects? We all deserve better
November 27, 20196 yr When you consider how low the payroll stays then Lou's plan even fits what the cheapest of owners would want so how come they don't see it the way Lou does? It's basically a good team with bargain bin prices, why would they shy away from that?
November 27, 20196 yr Author When you consider how low the payroll stays then Lou's plan even fits what the cheapest of owners would want so how come they don't see it the way Lou does? It's basically a good team with bargain bin prices, why would they shy away from that? Now you see why I was not pleased the other day.
November 27, 20196 yr Now you see why I was not pleased the other day. We still don't know that they aren't gonna do this though, that's all I was saying.
November 27, 20196 yr I’m gonna personally wait for a fourth article on it before I maybe rethink my position. winch one is your fav ?
November 27, 20196 yr Author winch one is your fav ? I can't choose, I want The Athletic to do one still.
November 27, 20196 yr he's worried that he'll block prospects that he hasn't even traded for yet. gotta keep the deck clear..just in case! If he doesn't sign anyone notable (sorry, Avisail Garcia is not it) they'll have plenty of excuses to not sign anyone next season either, because the FA class is rather putrid and thus will be extremely overpriced. So if they don't sign anyone this year you might as well hold off your parade until 2022.
November 29, 20196 yr Sorry, but we can't sign Castellanos because he would block Noted Prospect Lewis Brinson from hitting .180 again
November 29, 20196 yr Sorry, but we can't sign Castellanos because he would block Noted Prospect Lewis Brinson from hitting .180 again [MEDIA=giphy]DcVVJGzw8ibFS[/MEDIA]
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