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Sign and trade: Lohse signs in Miami, loses 2nd round pick. Miami trades him to Angels, gets Peter Bourjos and a single A pitching prospect. Miami is cursed at while the Indians considered the same thing in December. Side note: I feel bad for Lohse, compensation is killing him.

VANBIESBROUCK!

We would lose a second rounder if I am thinking right.... Which has always been our best pick of the draft .

I appreciate you taking the time to break this down. I saw somewhere you said you had the background to break this down as well professionally, what profession was that and you should add that in your first post to add even more credibility to your facts showing your qualified to break them down as well. Nice post, I underestimated how far in depth you'd go Wednesday when you mentioned you'd do this.

WTF? Does no one else appreciate the convenience of having the TV schedule for the entire season in 10 or so lines in a simple text file? Not sure if serious?

Club red just looks fucking brutal on TV.

You want to hear a great FU on the radio? Look for the lebatard radio show where MC Hammer was on and his cohost laid into hammer for being a dick.

I dont think this was good radio at all, and i get the impression justice was upset he answered 10 minutes of marlins questions instead of talking about MLB as a whole with some marlins.

According to that meeting on Monday with "selected media" people........ 12K season tickets were sold last year instead of the advertised 17K. Attendance last year was closer to 1.4 mil (an average of about 17.3K per game) instead of the advertised 2.2 mil (27K per game). The team lost "tens of millions of $$$" last year. About 5K season tickets have been sold this year. It's hard to tell how much of this to actually believe, with the exception of the amount of STs sold this year. Even that I would think is high. But I would guess the actual numbers from last season are somewhere in between. They screwed up royally by openly going after a particular customer base instead of the entire customer base, to the point of insulting that base. How they don't realize this is beyond a sane person's comprehension. Of course it is easy to see why they selected what media members could attend. Why open it up and have to answer the tough questions from media people that could care in the least if they are ever invited back, or that have negative views of this org? If they had just said publicly "we love old people from west palm" I'm SURE attendance would have been through the roof! Of course 2 of the chest thumpers have to chime in. I have no idea why some just refuse to understand you never push any customer base away. Ever. 5K season ticket base this year in a new ball park? Attendance way below predictions last year even before any trade was made? That new ball park smell and the place to be seen sure wore off pretty fast. Thanks for showing us old people "how to attend baseball games." Don't put words in my mouth, I never said how I feel about the county war. I simply marvel at the same ignorant rhetoric you spew every chance you get. Get some new material.

Did he say it wasn't a fire sale, it was hitting the reset button? No. He said he doesn't care about West Palm, that the team is Miami's.

I think we will win 86 games and be in Wild Card Contention until early September.

NL- Marlins+*, Cardinals, Giants, WC Pirates and *Nats AL- Rays, Tigers, Angels, WC Jays and Yanks *Swap +Replace with Reds

Has he given his famous Anderson Perez line? Please let this be online or replayed. I need to DVR it. Should be somewhere here soon. Or in the Watch Espn app too. http://search.espn.go.com/outside-the-lines/videos/6

Samson should not be allowed to speak. It's embarrassing. Why would you continue to say that you didn't know who the prospects were at the time they were acquired? That doesn't make things better, Samson... Granted, we all are major fans and didn't know much either. He's more concerned with the business side. If it was Hill or Beinfest even admitting before they started discussions they didn't know I'd be upset.

I hate Darren Rovells face. I truly do.

When Law said they aren't championship prospects the smirk on Samson's face turned to a sad frown. I like Samson, hes been nice when ive met and had contact with him but this has to be brutal for him. All of these guys remind me of a gang beating up a child for his sneakers.

Wow, this is a pretty awesome show. Sarcastic? I like how bob lee is being unbiased and reporting but Samson is being attacked by the other three guests, all well versed in business's (Rovell) Talent/ Prospects (law) and Cote (Pulse of the Market).No, not sarcastic. These are some pretty good guests with different perspectives. Exactly, I'm happy I didn't turn on NCIS.

Wow, this is great. Samson is talking and Keith Law is basically laughing at him. Yup, lol. I think the PR guy set Samson up for failure on this. There is no way he agreed to sit there and take this pounding, but I applaud him for doing so.

I hope they replay it. Should be on ESPN Classic in about 30 years if you are patient.I think they have it online.

Wow, this is a pretty awesome show. Sarcastic? I like how bob lee is being unbiased and reporting but Samson is being attacked by the other three guests, all well versed in business's (Rovell) Talent/ Prospects (law) and Cote (Pulse of the Market).

So is Greg Cote, this is getting interesting. The exact reason why I like OTL

Ha, Samson is on it.

Well, they just mentioned in the intro they won more with 15 million rather than 115 million, so there is hope. Check it out, bob lee is awesome

OTL is having a show on the marlins hopes to win back fans. Check it out. ESPN

69. depends on how quick Fernandez gets called up. Fernandez is almost always ready for a 69.