Joe Girardi

Video from the future: http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html?nid=j...1495204-F373ACx See how McCain won the election and why everyone is blaming on 1 person for this.

Terrible question, because you don't know what Cabrera's stats would've been against NL pitching What are you talking about? DH affect pitchers, not hitters. If Cabrera stayed with the team, we would had 4 infielders with 30+ HR.

Would we be able to make a trade as good as the actual trade last year?

OF-Manny Ramrez- Whether you believe the Marlins FO that there were no serious discussions, or if you believe PIT/BS and our refusal to part ways w/ Stanton was the only thing keeping this deal from being a reality, the simple fact is he single-handidly carried the Dodgers on his back to the NLCs; our July and August could have been substantially better, and we could have had a Sunshine Sate WS right now. Where's the guarantee? 5 difference is hard to do on a single player.

Depend if they do win the WS, and they create at least one memorable scene.

When the economy is down, the rich that have too much money in their pocket not being used need to send it some back to the lower class to help boost the economy.

Conine is rank 1500 out of 1736 Meh, that like reaching 15th place out of 17. :confused

I just voted for against the stadium, just because I like seeing other people suffer. The poll result shows 60.8% for Braman, 38.4% for Samson, 0.8% undecided.

He better beat Samson time. He's a baseball athlete, not a baseball president.

I'm sure the FO are discssing about every trade possibility right now.

Huh its happening right now? Is it being shown on TV?

That why I found it pointless.

Incomplete!

Late: http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...showtopic=85887 I found that stat meaningless so I made another one there.

Fail

Update: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/base...s.ap/index.html the mother of one of the two victims accused Burgos of intentionally running her daughter over because she refused to go out with him.

Just pointing out that I blame the stadium, not the fan base for the low attendance. 11th on the road average attendance, and top 10 in TV rating.

Yep Marlins finish 11th in average attendance, shows that we do have a fan base out there somewhere. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance?s...mp;seasonType=2

Wasn't he signed with the Tigers when it happen? He's their criminal not ours.

Teams Payroll 1. New York Yankees $209,081,579 2. Detroit Tigers $138,685,197 3. New York Mets $138,293,378 4. Boston Red Sox $133,440,037 5. Chicago White Sox $121,152,667 6. Los Angeles Angels $119,216,333 7. Chicago Cubs $118,595,833 8. Los Angeles Dodgers $118,536,038 9. Seattle Mariners $117,993,982 10. Atlanta Braves $102,424,018 11. St. Louis Cardinals $100,624,450 12. Toronto Blue Jays $98,641,957 13. Philadelphia Phillies $98,269,881 14. Houston Astros $88,930,415 15. Milwaukee Brewers $81,004,167 16. Cleveland Indians $78,970,067 17. San Francisco Giants $76,904,500 18. Cincinnati Reds $74,277,695 19. San Diego Padres $73,677,617 20. Colorado Rockies $68,655,500 21. Texas Rangers $68,239,551 22. Baltimore Orioles $67,196,248 23. Arizona Diamondbacks $66,202,713 24. Minnesota Twins $62,182,767 25. Kansas City Royals $58,245,500 26. Washington Nationals $54,961,000 27. Pittsburgh Pirates $49,365,283 28. Oakland Athletics $47,967,126 29. Tampa Bay Rays $43,820,598 30. Florida Marlins $21,836,500 Total Wins 1. Los Angeles Angels 100 2. Chicago Cubs 97 3. Tampa Bay Rays 97 4. Boston Red Sox 95 5. Philadelphia Phillies 92 6. Milwaukee Brewers 90 7. Chicago White Sox 89 8. New York Mets 89 9. New York Yankees 89 10. Minnesota Twins 88 11. Toronto Blue Jays 86 12. St. Louis Cardinals 86 13. Houston Astros 86 14. Los Angeles Dodgers 84 15. Florida Marlins 84 16. Arizona Diamondbacks 82 17. Cleveland Indians 81 18. Texas Rangers 79 19. Oakland Athletics 75 20. Kansas City Royals 75 21. Detroit Tigers 74 22. Colorado Rockies 74 23. Cincinnati Reds 74 24. Atlanta Braves 72 25. San Francisco Giants 72 26. Baltimore Orioles 68 27. Pittsburgh Pirates 67 28. San Diego Padres 63 29. Seattle Mariners 61 30. Washington Nationals 59 Payroll Per Win 1. Florida Marlins $259,958.33 2. Tampa Bay Rays $451,758.74 3. Oakland Athletics $639,561.68 4. Minnesota Twins $706,622.35 5. Pittsburgh Pirates $736,795.27 6. Kansas City Royals $776,606.67 7. Arizona Diamondbacks $807,350.16 8. Texas Rangers $863,791.78 9. Milwaukee Brewers $900,046.30 10. Colorado Rockies $927,777.03 11. Washington Nationals $931,542.37 12. Cleveland Indians $974,939.10 13. Baltimore Orioles $988,180.12 14. Cincinnati Reds $100,3752.64 15. Houston Astros $1,034,074.59 16. San Francisco Giants $1,068,118.06 17. Philadelphia Phillies $1,068,150.88 18. Toronto Blue Jays $1,146,999.50 19. San Diego Padres $1,169,485.98 20. St. Louis Cardinals $1,170,051.74 21. Los Angeles Angels $1,192,163.33 22. Chicago Cubs $1,222,637.45 23. Chicago White Sox $1,361,265.92 24. Boston Red Sox $1,404,631.97 25. Los Angeles Dodgers $1,411,143.31 26. Atlanta Braves $1,422,555.81 27. New York Mets $1,553,858.18 28. Detroit Tigers $1,874,124.28 29. Seattle Mariners $1,934,327.57 30. New York Yankees $2,349,231.22 Teams Achievement Over Payroll Expectation (Wins Rank - Payroll Rank) 1. Tampa Bay Rays (26) 2. Florida Marlins (15) 3. Minnesota Twins (14) 4. Milwaukee Brewers (9) 5. Oakland Athletics (9) 6. Philadelphia Phillies (8) 7. Arizona Diamondbacks (7) 8. Los Angeles Dodgers (6) 9. Los Angeles Angels (5) 10. Chicago Cubs (5) 11. Kansas City Royals (5) 12. Texas Rangers (3) 13. Toronto Blue Jays (1) 14. Houston Astros (1) 15. Boston Red Sox (0) 16. Pittsburgh Pirates (0) 17. St. Louis Cardinals (-1) 18. Cleveland Indians (-1) 19. Chicago White Sox (-2) 20. Colorado Rockies (-2) 21. Baltimore Orioles (-4) 22. Washington Nationals (-4) 23. New York Mets (-5) 24. Cincinnati Reds (-5) 25. New York Yankees (-8) 26. San Francisco Giants (-8) 27. San Diego Padres (-9) 28. Atlanta Braves (-14) 29. Detroit Tigers (-19) 30. Seattle Mariners (-20) All calculated myself, I'll call it TAOPE since I don't think anyone have done this before. The numbers represent the amount of teams with higher payroll with less wins minus the amount of teams with lower payroll with more wins for the particular team. So since the Marlins score a 15, that mean they beat 15 other teams with a higher payroll and less wins minus teams who beat the Marlins with lower payroll and more wins. (which is none since the Marlins already are rank last in payroll, so they simply beat 15 other teams in payroll and less wins). I think it is a better formula in figuring how efficient each teams use their payroll since it compare it to every other teams.

If Manny was traded to this team, he'll be criticize for our offense slump during August.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/base...t.ap/index.html

Third firesale here we come!!!.Unfortunetly the 2009-2010 offseason may be just as ugly, when the players we keep start making second year arbitration. And in 2011-2012 off season will be ugly too with most of the arb players that we replace with this offseason will be in the 3rd year by then.

If I never started a game thread, we would had been at least 90-72.

ALDS 1 Red Sox vs. Angels # of games: 5 ALDS 2 Twins/White Sox vs. Rays # of games: 4 NLDS 1 Brewers vs. Phillies # of games: 3 NLDS 2 Dodgers vs. Cubs # of games: 3 ALCS Red Sox vs. Rays # of games: 7 NLCS Phillies 1 vs. Cubs # of games: 5 World Series Cubs vs. Rays # of games: 7