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From MSNBC.com:

 

MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. - Native Americans across the country -- including tribal leaders, academics and rank-and-file tribe members -- voiced anger and frustration Thursday that President Bush has responded to the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history with silence.

 

Three days after 16-year-old Jeff Weise killed nine members of his Red Lake tribe before taking his own life, grief-stricken American Indians complained that the White House has offered little in the way of sympathy for the tribe situated in the uppermost region of Minnesota.

 

"From all over the world we are getting letters of condolence, the Red Cross has come, but the so-called Great White Father in Washington hasn't said or done a thing," said Clyde Bellecourt, a Chippewa Indian who is the founder and national director of the American Indian Movement here. "When people's children are murdered and others are in the hospital hanging on to life, he should be the first one to offer his condolences. . . . If this was a white community, I don't think he'd have any problem doing that."

 

Weise's victims included his grandfather and five teenagers; seven other students were wounded, and two of them remain in serious condition in a hospital in Fargo, N.D.

 

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, in an informal discussion with reporters Tuesday, said: "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those who were killed."

 

"I hope that he would say something," said Victoria Graves, a cultural educator at Red Lake Elementary School on the reservation. "It's important that there's acknowledgment of the tragedy. It's important he sees the tribes are out here. We need help."

 

The reaction to Bush's silence was particularly bitter given his high-profile, late-night intervention on behalf of Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged Florida woman caught in a legal battle over whether her feeding tube should be reinserted.

 

"The fact that Bush preempted his vacation to say something about Ms. Schiavo and here you have 10 native people gunned down and he can't take time to speak is very telling," said David Wilkins, interim chairman of the Department of American Indian Studies at the University of Minnesota and a member of the North Carolina-based Lumbee tribe.

 

"He has not been real visible in Indian country," said former senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.). "He's got a lot of irons in the fire, but this is important."

 

Even more alarming than Bush's silence, he said, is the president's proposal to cut $100 million from several Indian programs next year.

 

After hearing grumbling from tribal leaders, Jacqueline Johnson, executive director of the National Congress of American Indians, called the White House on Thursday to inquire about Bush's silence. "I wanted to make sure the White House is paying attention to this issue," she said. "I wasn't sure."

 

Asked Thursday about Bush's silence, spokeswoman Dana Perino said that he plans to dedicate part of his Saturday radio address to the Red Lake tragedy and that he is following the case closely through the FBI and the Justice Department.

 

In the hours after the massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado in 1999, President Bill Clinton publicly expressed his condolences and followed up a few days later with a radio address in which he proposed new gun control measures and school safety projects.

 

At the Red Lake Urban Indian Office here, volunteer Marilyn Westbrook said she was disappointed but not surprised.

 

"I don't feel he cares about the American Indian people," said Westbrook, as she collected donations of gas cards and money to enable fellow Red Lake members to make the 260-mile journey to the reservation. "Why hasn't he made any statements about what happened with this shooting?"

 

 

I think the people interviewed for this article do raise some good questions.

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Why should the US taxpayers have to pay for sovreign nations living on american soil? They have rights to things like casinos, which there own leaders get greedy with all the revenue while the averga epeople starve. What's most alarming is how stupid the reasoning behind this article is.

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Well considering all the crap we did to the Native populations in the 19th century....

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Why should the US taxpayers have to pay for sovreign nations living on american soil? They have rights to things like casinos, which there own leaders get greedy with all the revenue while the averga epeople starve. What's most alarming is how stupid the reasoning behind this article is.

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Well considering all the crap we did to the Native populations in the 19th century....

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And the 18th, and 17th with our favorite English colonial masters...

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however he did make a big effort to fly all the way back from vacation to sign a bogus Terry Sciavo bill, so go figure...

 

I'm kind of torn on stuff like this. I don't like the tone of the article, because I get annoyed when something awful happens and then people demand that governors and presidents make an appearance, or give them a thumbs up or pray for them or something. I mean is that really what's going to help them??

 

On the other hand, who knows? Maybe an acknowledgement or a prepared reading of nonsense about morality or something by the President of the United States would make someone feel better. I have no idea why, but I guess it couldn't hurt.

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the shootings in minnesota had nothing for hte republicans to gain by.

 

 

the shiavio case does.

 

 

simple politics.

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That's my problem with all of this, and why I posted the article.

 

If the Terri Schiavo case hadn't been going on, he would likely have spoken about the shootings. However, since the Schiavo case was much more important to his supporting base, he went with that.

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The Schiavo case has been a ratings disaster for the prez.? If he did it for political reasons, it clearly didn't work out did it?

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No, and I'm glad that it didn't work out, so it will hopefully discourage them from doing something like it again.

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So I guess KKKarl isn't quite the mastermind people depict him as then? If he can't read and comprehend the poling results on one isolated issue he must be a real boob eh?

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The Schiavo case has been a ratings disaster for the prez.? If he did it for political reasons, it clearly didn't work out did it?

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No, and I'm glad that it didn't work out, so it will hopefully discourage them from doing something like it again.

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So I guess KKKarl isn't quite the mastermind people depict him as then? If he can't read and comprehend the poling results on one isolated issue he must be a real boob eh?

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You know this was politcally calculated. Sure the President "loses" this battle as you claim, however you damned well know that most everyone else will forget this except his radical base. I think you're smart enough to have realized this, so your comments are a bunch of BS.

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Why should the US taxpayers have to pay for sovreign nations living on american soil? They have rights to things like casinos, which there own leaders get greedy with all the revenue while the averga epeople starve. What's most alarming is how stupid the reasoning behind this article is.

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Well considering all the crap we did to the Native populations in the 19th century....

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And the 18th, and 17th with our favorite English colonial masters...

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So we should pay today for what other people did? I'm not of english blood, my ancestors didn't kill any native americans in the northwest or midwest. I do believe the genocide of native americans was a tragedy, but having people who may or may not have had ancestors involved in doing these things to the potential ancestors of the remaining native americans pay taxes for them just b/c of that is absurd. Regardless we will continue to pay taxes for such groups, but they should not complain that we dont do enough. As it is they have privileges that other citizens dont have. They should focus on complaining about how their own 'tribal' leaders are not sharing their wealth from the casinos. And yes Bush is benefiting politically from the schiavo incident with the hardcore social conservative base. However, people like futuregm seem to not fully understand the nature of politics, because pandering to the base that got you elected is important. Every politican does it. Democrats will pander to black groups and unions, and republicans to churches and businesses. Same s*** different party.

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You know this was politcally calculated. Sure the President "loses" this battle as you claim, however you damned well know that most everyone else will forget this except his radical base. I think you're smart enough to have realized this, so your comments are a bunch of BS.

 

Would that be this "radical base" that you refer to?

 

"Anger at Bushes as time grows short for Schiavo"

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/u...shortforschiavo

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Why should the US taxpayers have to pay for sovreign nations living on american soil? They have rights to things like casinos, which there own leaders get greedy with all the revenue while the averga epeople starve. What's most alarming is how stupid the reasoning behind this article is.

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Well considering all the crap we did to the Native populations in the 19th century....

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And the 18th, and 17th with our favorite English colonial masters...

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So we should pay today for what other people did? I'm not of english blood, my ancestors didn't kill any native americans in the northwest or midwest. I do believe the genocide of native americans was a tragedy, but having people who may or may not have had ancestors involved in doing these things to the potential ancestors of the remaining native americans pay taxes for them just b/c of that is absurd. Regardless we will continue to pay taxes for such groups, but they should not complain that we dont do enough. As it is they have privileges that other citizens dont have. They should focus on complaining about how their own 'tribal' leaders are not sharing their wealth from the casinos. And yes Bush is benefiting politically from the schiavo incident with the hardcore social conservative base. However, people like futuregm seem to not fully understand the nature of politics, because pandering to the base that got you elected is important. Every politican does it. Democrats will pander to black groups and unions, and republicans to churches and businesses. Same s*** different party.

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I agree with the bottom half about the "nature of politics."

 

Tonyi, I believe that anger is less directed at the Bush brothers who did all they could or at least projected that image in the press, and more directed at the helpless feeling of not being able to help Terri. They just represent the powers that couldn't get the job done. The fact that they "tried" is all that counts.

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I believe that anger is less directed at the Bush brothers who did all they could or at least projected that image in the press, and more directed at the helpless feeling of not being able to help Terri.? They just represent the powers that couldn't get the job done.? The fact that they "tried" is all that counts.

 

They didn't really "try" and the "radical base" as you call it knows it now.

 

It would have been easy enough to simply ignore the court order just like Clinton did when DOJ seized Elian by force.

 

FDLE was apparently ready to go. The Bush's wimped out and were unwilling to have the kind of armed showdown Clinton did.

 

What the Bush's did was pander to the "radical middle" who had some reservations, but was willing to go along with all apparently legal procedures.

 

BTW, what congress and W did was NOT declared unconstitutional, so it obviously was within their powers.

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It would've been easy enough to ignore the court order if local police would've ignored it as well....

Miami Herald link

 

Local police were not going to allow anyone in. Jeb isn't supid enough to spark some kind of showdown between local police and state law enforcement.

 

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted - but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order.

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Jeb isn't supid enough to spark some kind of showdown between local police and state law enforcement.

 

Isn't that what I just said?!?!

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The Bush's wimped out

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You said they wimped out. I guess a real man would have taken their chances with a show down between local and state law enforcement officers huh?

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