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Yeah he's really earning that salary........question is do we replace him with Valdez in the rotation when he's healthy? Because Leiter has been absolutely awful. Good guy or not, we need someone that can do better than him.

 

Maybe if the Astros are out of contention at the trade deadline, we could get Clemens.......yeah I know I'm dreaming. But maybe we could give them Moehler if we continues to perform well, Conine, and a top pitching prospect. Again, I know, dreaming.

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Yeah he's really earning that salary........question is do we replace him with Valdez in the rotation when he's healthy? Because Leiter has been absolutely awful. Good guy or not, we need someone that can do better than him.

 

Maybe if the Astros are out of contention at the trade deadline, we could get Clemens.......yeah I know I'm dreaming. But maybe we could give them Moehler if we continues to perform well, Conine, and a top pitching prospect. Again, I know, dreaming.

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the only way the marlins get clemens is if the astros RELEASE him and pay for all of his salary.. again, you're dreaming.

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Yeah he's really earning that salary........question is do we replace him with Valdez in the rotation when he's healthy? Because Leiter has been absolutely awful. Good guy or not, we need someone that can do better than him.

 

Maybe if the Astros are out of contention at the trade deadline, we could get Clemens.......yeah I know I'm dreaming. But maybe we could give them Moehler if we continues to perform well, Conine, and a top pitching prospect. Again, I know, dreaming.

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:lol :lol :lol

 

The Astros aren't retarded.

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So far today he hasn't been pitching good, but he hasn't been hurt, atleast yet.

 

He's really needs to start throwing more first pitch strikes and get ahead in the count.

 

And he needs to stop allowing so many base runners! Seriously.

 

The Marlins giving him the lead quickly with 2 runs in the first helped him pitch also....

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So far today he hasn't been pitching good, but he hasn't been hurt, atleast yet.

 

He's really needs to start throwing more first pitch strikes and get ahead in the count.

 

And he needs to stop allowing so many base runners! Seriously.

 

The Marlins giving him the lead quickly with 2 runs in the first helped him pitch also....

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I really think he has lost most of his ability to control where the ball goes. He looks out of control on the mound this year.

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for real, i've always been a big leiter fan and want to give him a chance but two months in, he's been awful. i just looked up some of his stats: 2 quality starts the whole year, guys are batting .308 off him and that's before tonight... seriously, what is wrong with him? we don't need him to be dominant, just so-so, but this is unacceptable. i'm not sure what the right move is at this point, but it feels like we're practically conceding the game by starting him at this point (even his last win was 5IP, 4R!).

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Yeah he's really earning that salary........question is do we replace him with Valdez in the rotation when he's healthy? Because Leiter has been absolutely awful. Good guy or not, we need someone that can do better than him.

 

Maybe if the Astros are out of contention at the trade deadline, we could get Clemens.......yeah I know I'm dreaming. But maybe we could give them Moehler if we continues to perform well, Conine, and a top pitching prospect. Again, I know, dreaming.

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Clemens is my favorite player of all time, but I won't hold my breath. If he was willing to come to FL (which I don't think he would be), he was willing to wave that extra 3 million when traded (which I don't think he would be) AND if the Stros are willing to trade him (which I don't think they would be), then maybe we could ship them Leiter, Dillion, Stokes and one of our lower pitching prospects for Clemens and some money to cover some of his salary.

 

I'd love for it to happen, but I think I may win lotto before it does. :(

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its getting old, I think everyone just expects a bad outing every time he is out there. Jack patience is wearing out, I was surprised at how quickly he was pulled out of the game tonight

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thats exactly what i was thinking, i said to my dad, jacks getting tired of this

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looking great once again :thumbup

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figures it comes from you

 

al leiters era is almost 7.

 

it doesn't matter that we've won 6/7. scoring 5 runs with our team there should be no reason why we didn't win. i could do a lot more things with 8 million dollars than waste it on al leiter.

 

now on the other hand, would you figure would u pay that much money on al leiter to teach the other pitchers such as beckett and burnett and dontrelle.. of course, but i think as for his pitching days its ntime to hang up the cleats

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