Hialeah Heights isint an option.

 

Its either the Race Track or nothing.

 

 

Thats what i've been hearing. And for those that know me, I am my own inside source. :shifty

 

 

Do you happen to know anything else? :shifty

I know they are in fact meeting, I just dont know exactly when.

 

We offered the land(helped write the letter) its just a matter of whether or not they are interested.

 

Usually, whenever we present this we got shot down fast, so its looking better I suppose. I'll keep you posted.

I know they are in fact meeting, I just dont know exactly when.

 

We offered the land(helped write the letter) its just a matter of whether or not they are interested.

 

Usually, whenever we present this we got shot down fast, so its looking better I suppose. I'll keep you posted.

 

 

Offering land but no money? Would you offer money?

If they decide to go with this option...are they going to tear down the historical track or will it be on the north side of the grounds?

I know they are in fact meeting, I just dont know exactly when.

 

We offered the land(helped write the letter) its just a matter of whether or not they are interested.

 

Usually, whenever we present this we got shot down fast, so its looking better I suppose. I'll keep you posted.

 

 

Offering land but no money? Would you offer money?

 

I may be wrong, but I recall being told that Hialeah voters approved a tax that would pay for the stadium.

I know they are in fact meeting, I just dont know exactly when.

 

We offered the land(helped write the letter) its just a matter of whether or not they are interested.

 

Usually, whenever we present this we got shot down fast, so its looking better I suppose. I'll keep you posted.

 

 

Offering land but no money? Would you offer money?

 

I may be wrong, but I recall being told that Hialeah voters approved a tax that would pay for the stadium.

 

They did in 2000, that's why I brought up Hialeah a few months ago and now this week in the first place. I can't find any other info regarding it. It's been five years, a window could have expired a while ago (something Prin brought up to me on AIM).

 

http://elections.miamidade.gov/ele00312/RACE036.HTML

If you'll notice on the Miami-Dade election link provided above the words "straw ballot".

 

A straw ballot is a question posed to the electorate in the hypothetical, in other words, to gage the sense of the people, and it has no force or effect in the law.

 

Put another way, what this says is "if we, the City were to put up for a vote a proposal that would fund a stadium for professional baseball, would you (the voters) be inclined to approve it or not?" In this case the voters said yes but keep in mind a) in 2000, Raul Martinez could have gotten a dead man elected and b) no $$$ was really on the line.

 

The voters may feel differently if and when they are REALLY asked to put up their tax dollars to actually fund or partially fund a stadium especially when the various special interests aligned against the Marlins (or Loria) get done running their disinformation campaign on spanish radio and elsewhere.

 

Joe Arriola's kid just got done getting a developer-backed commissioner elected in Miami Beach with a (last minute) PAC that made phone calls and mailings to elderly spanish speaking voters claiming the commissioner's opponent was going to take away their medicare payments, so anything is possible when the Latin Builders Association and others open their bag of dirty tricks.

 

All that said, if the city fathers in Hialeah can find a way to help make a stadium happen I'd be the first one to stand up and applaud their efforts.

Jerry from Descarga Deportiva responded to an email I sent earlier today with this:

 

"Michael: We are on 1550 - Cadena Azul - we went back there a week and a half ago. You may have missed the announcements. Sorry about that. Still from 6 to 7 pm.

 

We talked about Hialeah today. They met yesterday, and will be meeting again next week. "

 

Certainly excellent news.

MARLINS STADIUM

Team, Hialeah to talk about park

The Florida Marlins have arranged a meeting with Hialeah's mayor to discuss building a stadium in the city.

BY BARRY JACKSON REBECCA DELLAGLORIA AND ROBERT L. STEINBACK

rsteinback@MiamiHerald.com

 

The Hialeah Marlins?

 

The Florida Marlins and Hialeah Mayor Julio Robaina will meet next week to discuss the possibility of building a baseball stadium in the city, Robaina confirmed Wednesday night.

 

Robaina said Marlins representatives arranged the meeting. He mentioned three possible sites for a ballpark: Hialeah Park racetrack; an area west of Interstate 75 -- both privately owned; and Amelia Earhart Park, which is Miami-Dade property.

 

''Is it a long shot? I'm not looking at it as a long shot,'' Robaina said. ``I want to do everything possible to keep the Marlins in South Florida. I've been approached by residents and people in the community who have reached out to me.''

 

The Marlins confirmed next week's meeting but declined to comment further.

 

Not everyone in Hialeah is convinced the fledgling courtship is likely to turn into a committed relationship, however.

 

Hialeah Council President Esteban ''Steve'' Bovo said that while he would like to see the Marlins come to Hialeah, he wouldn't be surprised if Florida'a fifthlargest city was being used as a pawn in the club's quest for a permanent home.

 

''If the Marlins want to come to Hialeah, I will be the first guy cheerleading for this cause,'' Bovo said. But, ``I wouldn't put it past the Marlins to be using the city of Hialeah as a ploy to get the city of Miami moving on this issue, or somebody else.''

 

Alejandro Miyar, press secretary to Miami Mayor Manny Diaz, declined to comment.

 

In November, talks between Miami city officials and Marlins representatives formally fell through when the team announced it had received permission from Major League Baseball to talk to other cities about possible relocation. Team executives have already visited Portland, Ore., and San Antonio, Texas; other interested markets include Las Vegas, Charlotte, N.C., Monterrey, Mexico, and northern New Jersey.

 

The team also has been negotiating to build a stadium on Wayne Huizenga-owned land next to Dolphins Stadium, but those talks have stalled.

 

The project would cost more than $400 million, but the parties are believed to be about $80 million apart.

 

Until the Montreal Expos moved to the nation's capital and became the Washington Nationals last season, no Major League Baseball team had changed markets in 33 years.

 

The Marlins are committed to playing at Dolphins Stadium through the 2007 season but have said they won't stay beyond 2010.

 

Robaina said the Hialeah council would have the power to add a ballot item asking the city's voters if they want to contribute toward stadium financing.

 

''It's definitely an option,'' Robaina said, adding he would review any proposal before deciding whether to support it.

 

Robaina said in a 1999 straw ballot, 57 percent of voters said they would support trying to build a baseball stadium in Hialeah.

 

Council president Bovo works as an asset manager for the Brunetti Organization, whose principal, John Brunetti, owns Hialeah Park. Bovo said Wednesday he had not heard from his boss that the racetrack was being considered as a possible site for the stadium.

 

Aside from being privately owned, Bovo pointed out another obstacle with Hialeah Park as a potential site: Much of the storied racetrack is listed on the National Register for Historic Places, which protects it from renovations.

 

Miami Herald staff writer Michael Vasquez contributed to this report.

 

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sport...ll/13658475.htm

Robaina said Marlins representatives arranged the meeting. He mentioned three possible sites for a ballpark: Hialeah Park racetrack; an area west of Interstate 75 -- both privately owned; and Amelia Earhart Park, which is Miami-Dade property.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sport...ll/13658475.htm

 

 

 

:mischief :mischief :mischief

After just speaking to Jerry DelCastillo from the radio show....his show will be broadcasting live tomm. (FRIDAY JAN. 20) from Publix Sabor 1565 W. 49th St. in hialeah.

 

the guest on the show will be Hialeah Mayor Julio Robaina...and he asks that we get as many Marlins fans out there as possible to show the city mayor the support for the team...

 

so please pass it along to all your fans

If I understood spanish and wasnt working I would go. But if anyone wants to translate what happens. I would be a very greatful little marlins fan

After just speaking to Jerry DelCastillo from the radio show....his show will be broadcasting live tomm. (FRIDAY JAN. 20) from Publix Sabor 1565 W. 49th St. in hialeah.

 

the guest on the show will be Hialeah Mayor Julio Robaina...and he asks that we get as many Marlins fans out there as possible to show the city mayor the support for the team...

 

so please pass it along to all your fans

 

Good News

Is this the piece of land that is being referred to as "Hialeah Heights?

 

http://gisims2.miamidade.gov/myhome/propma...Dis=&Mkt=&HexV=

 

One thing Amelia Earhart Park has going for it is that it has access roads on either side which could be helpful. I do question whether the greenies would mount a "Stop the Marlins" campaign as a ballpark there would eat up an enormous part of the park and whether it's proximity to an airport might represent a whole other set of issues, but hey let's see where all this goes.

Is this the piece of land that is being referred to as "Hialeah Heights?

 

http://gisims2.miamidade.gov/myhome/propma...Dis=&Mkt=&HexV=

 

One thing Amelia Earhart Park has going for it is that it has access roads on either side which could be helpful. I do question whether the greenies would mount a "Stop the Marlins" campaign as a ballpark there would eat up an enormous part of the park and whether it's proximity to an airport might represent a whole other set of issues, but hey let's see where all this goes.

 

 

I'm not sure 2003 but I believe the area annexed is bigger. I wouldn't be surprised though.

 

The greenies won't get much support in conservative Hialeah. I do not believe the airport will be a problem. It's only used by a few privately owned planes and the Coast Guard.

 

Here is an updated map of all the sites.

If you go the link I provided and using the navigations buttons above, click on the minus icon " - " to get a broader view.

 

According to the tax records it is owned by Hialeah and they paid $21 million for it.

If you go the link I provided and using the navigations buttons above, click on the minus icon " - " to get a broader view.

 

According to the tax records it is owned by Hialeah and they paid $21 million for it.

 

 

Ah missed that, that's the site.

I have connections to the mayor. I am gonna see what I can find out.

Is this the piece of land that is being referred to as "Hialeah Heights?

 

http://gisims2.miamidade.gov/myhome/propma...Dis=&Mkt=&HexV=

 

One thing Amelia Earhart Park has going for it is that it has access roads on either side which could be helpful. I do question whether the greenies would mount a "Stop the Marlins" campaign as a ballpark there would eat up an enormous part of the park and whether it's proximity to an airport might represent a whole other set of issues, but hey let's see where all this goes.

 

 

I'm not sure 2003 but I believe the area annexed is bigger. I wouldn't be surprised though.

 

The greenies won't get much support in conservative Hialeah. I do not believe the airport will be a problem. It's only used by a few privately owned planes and the Coast Guard.

 

Here is an updated map of all the sites.

 

 

thanks for posting that map. it seems that those location are workable.

moneyball,

 

The ideas we talked about are coming slider closer and closer.

I think Mr. Festa should invite us all over for drinks and cookies if this deal goes through.

I think Mr. Festa should invite us all over for drinks and cookies if this deal goes through.

 

 

We'll be having a lot more than that. :mischief

 

 

If this is billed as a baseball stadium/hurricane shelter I wonder how the state would react to throwing some money into the project.

 

I would also like to add that I went to the supermarket and the barber shop and it seems as if the citizens of Hialeah are really really excited about this idea.

Moneyball would die if this happens.

i wouldnt want them to be the hialeah marlins i like the idea of Miami Marlins better.

i wouldnt want them to be the hialeah marlins i like the idea of Miami Marlins better.

 

 

I couldn't care less what they are called as long as they're in So. Florida. Maybe Hialeah is willing to kick in $50-100 million and land towards the stadium in exchange for the Marlins being called Hialeah Marlins.

 

Or maybe "The Hialeah Marlins of Miami" or "The Hialeah Marlins of Miami-Dade County in the State of Florida."