Somebody tell me why Ross is batting 5th when Hermida, Ramirez, Olivo, and even Willingham on the bench are all better hitters??

you must've missed the 5 or so games this year where he's batted cleanup and come through.

Ross should be removed from the lineup as sonn as possible.

you must've missed the 5 or so games this year where he's batted cleanup and come through.

 

 

 

I watched them all. Anyone have his stats as a 4th or 5th hitter? I think they are deceiving some people.

 

.245 hitters should bat 8th.

or not at all...

you must've missed the 5 or so games this year where he's batted cleanup and come through.

 

 

 

I watched them all. Anyone have his stats as a 4th or 5th hitter? I think they are deceiving some people.

 

.245 hitters should bat 8th.

.294/.333/.618 in 34 ab in the 4 hole

.185/.286/.308 in 65 ab in the 5 hole

i believe he was in the 4-hole when he had that 2 homer game.

i believe he was in the 4-hole when he had that 2 homer game.

 

ok 1 -2 homer game.......what is his batting average in those spots? .240?

i believe he was in the 4-hole when he had that 2 homer game.

 

ok 1 -2 homer game.......what is his batting average in those spots? .240?

 

 

you must've missed the 5 or so games this year where he's batted cleanup and come through.

 

I watched them all. Anyone have his stats as a 4th or 5th hitter? I think they are deceiving some people.

 

.245 hitters should bat 8th.

.294/.333/.618 in 34 ab in the 4 hole

.185/.286/.308 in 65 ab in the 5 hole

:thumbup

i believe he was in the 4-hole when he had that 2 homer game.

 

ok 1 -2 homer game.......what is his batting average in those spots? .240?

 

 

you must've missed the 5 or so games this year where he's batted cleanup and come through.

 

I watched them all. Anyone have his stats as a 4th or 5th hitter? I think they are deceiving some people.

 

.245 hitters should bat 8th.

.294/.333/.618 in 34 ab in the 4 hole

.185/.286/.308 in 65 ab in the 5 hole

:thumbup

 

 

Ok so those aren't very impressive numbers for a 4 or 5 hitter especially with 4 better hitters either batting after him or on the bench.

hey, as long as we win when he bats 5th, he can go 0-4 everytime.

u gotta ride him when hes on fire, then give him a breather when hes not. as mentioned before he can be very streaky

uggla should bat fifth. put ross/willingham 7th behind hermida...instead of hanley, who should be at the top of the order with his speed.

 

amezaga

hanley

jacobs

cabrera

uggla

hermida

willingham/ross

olivo

uggla should bat fifth. put ross/willingham 7th behind hermida...instead of hanley, who should be at the top of the order with his speed.

 

amezaga

hanley

jacobs

cabrera

uggla

hermida

willingham/ross

olivo

 

 

 

I would keep Uggla in the 2 hole...he seems to do alright there.

 

My lineup:

 

Amezaga CF

Uggla 2B

Jacobs 1B

Cabrera 3B

Hermida RF

Willingham LF

Ramirez SS

Olivo C

he hasn't been given any at bats anywhere else in the order since early in the season. his future looks to be as a run-producer, a guy you want to drive in runs ala jeff kent...that type of hitter shouldn't be hitting second, IMO.

 

put him behind miggy, it would give cabrera some protection and uggla would probably do a much better job than willingham or ross could combined.

 

hanram/alfredo at the top of the order would give pitchers fits as well with their speed.

I think they should try batting Olivo higher again

he hasn't been given any at bats anywhere else in the order since early in the season. his future looks to be as a run-producer, a guy you want to drive in runs ala jeff kent...that type of hitter shouldn't be hitting second, IMO.

 

put him behind miggy, it would give cabrera some protection and uggla would probably do a much better job than willingham or ross could combined.

 

hanram/alfredo at the top of the order would give pitchers fits as well with their speed.

 

idk, hanleys BA doent make a good case.

Hanley

Uggla

Cabrera-the best hitter on the team is supposed to hit third

Jacobs

Olivo

Hermida

Ross

Willingham

Pitcher

i believe he was in the 4-hole when he had that 2 homer game.

 

ok 1 -2 homer game.......what is his batting average in those spots? .240?

 

 

you must've missed the 5 or so games this year where he's batted cleanup and come through.

 

I watched them all. Anyone have his stats as a 4th or 5th hitter? I think they are deceiving some people.

 

.245 hitters should bat 8th.

.294/.333/.618 in 34 ab in the 4 hole

.185/.286/.308 in 65 ab in the 5 hole

:thumbup

 

 

Ok so those aren't very impressive numbers for a 4 or 5 hitter especially with 4 better hitters either batting after him or on the bench.

That .618 line is his slugging, not OPS. Know many cleanup hitters with slugging percentages over .600, do ya?

 

Also, I would like to see Uggla moved down to 4th or 5th. Hermida to 2nd.

Willingham should be in the lineup everyday, especially on the road where he hits much better (12 of 16 HR's on the road and an OPS over 300 points higher than at DS).

Especially now that Ross and Hermida can't hit.

Amezaga

Ramirez

Cabrera

Jacobs

Uggla

Olivo

Willy

Hermida

 

or

 

Ramirez

Hermida

Cabrera

Jacobs

Uggla

Olivo

Willy

Ross

 

 

I like the second one, that is the one I would do, if not flipping jacobs and cabrera when facing righties

The problem is that we don't have a true lead off hitter. Hanley is fast, but he's also a power hitter and right now he doesn't get on base as much as we need for a lead off guy. Amezaga hits the ball pretty well, but he's not very fast and he's out of position in the field.

A good leadoff hitter can hit for power. Last I checked what makes a player good at something isn't necessarily that he's bad at an important part of the game.

 

That's like saying a player is a good outfielder because he can't pick groundballs.

A good leadoff hitter can hit for power. Last I checked what makes a player good at something isn't necessarily that he's bad at an important part of the game.

 

That's like saying a player is a good outfielder because he can't pick groundballs.

 

 

i think what he was trying to say is ramirez would be better utilized in a different part of the order because of his potential power. a .300+ hitter that can hit 20-25 hr's would be an ideal #2 or 3 hitter.

 

let amezaga leadoff vs. righties. he's hitting over .300 with a .360 obp against righthanded pitching. he works pitchers, too, much like JP used to. against lefties you can let hanley leadoff for now until we find a long-term solution there (alfredo obviously isn't it)