? Girardi has had friends making it known in Chicago that he would like the Cubs job. The Cubs, however, aren't interested.

 

LOS ANGELES - Baseball had its first managerial change of the season this week.

But it doesn't count because nothing really changed.

 

Florida owner Jeffrey Loria fired manager Joe Girardi on Sunday afternoon, but before the announcement could be made, Loria reconsidered and Girardi was retained. The blowup came when Loria, who sits beside the Marlins dugout at Dolphin Stadium, was yelling at umpires Sunday and Girardi told him to cool it.

 

The problems, however, go deeper than an in-game blowup. Girardi was Loria's hand-picked manager, but Loria has become concerned about Girardi's controlling personality that has been compared with that of Texas manager Buck Showalter.

 

Problems began during spring training when Girardi belittled suggestions by members of the organization that Ricky Nolasco and Josh Johnson should be in the rotation instead of middle relief, where they opened the season. It was more than a month before Girardi backed down and gave both opportunities to start, which turned out to be a critical factor as the Marlins rebounded from a miserable start to be competitive.

 

Girardi might be wise to heed the words of former big league exec Buzzie Bavasi.

 

"We operated by the Golden Rule," Bavasi said. "He who has the gold rules."

 

 

No idea what his sources are...some of this stuff he's laying out as fact without the appearance of speculating.

 

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/spor...4909894,00.html

 

There's also another article that says the press-room setup was for Girardi's firing after he told Loria to stuff a sock in it. Sorry if this was already posted somewhere.

giradi stated he doesnt have an out clause, and him and the fish organization have stated they have no plans for him to go anywhere

 

weird the press about the country only report bad news for us hehe.

good to see the cubs "aren't interested" in girardi

giradi stated he doesnt have an out clause, and him and the fish organization have stated they have no plans for him to go anywhere

 

weird the press about the country only report bad news for us hehe.

 

 

 

It was a slow news week sports wise. Once football season gets going these stories will go by the waste side!

good to see the cubs "aren't interested" in girardi

 

 

wait till the offseason when Dusty isnt there

I've said all along. I don't like Girardi as a person....he's already been quoted as saying the "Cubs managerial postion is my dream job" while under contract with the Fish. That's enough for me...

Part of me is disappointed that he wasn't terminated. I have no idea of who would be a capable replacement right now though.

 

 

Fredi Gonzalez? Or is he retired?

 

Jack McKeon would be my best guess.

good to see the cubs "aren't interested" in girardi

 

they arent very interested in winning either...but then again...what's new?

I've said all along. I don't like Girardi as a person....he's already been quoted as saying the "Cubs managerial postion is my dream job" while under contract with the Fish. That's enough for me...

 

 

Please post a link to the article where Girardi is quoted as saying the "Cubs managerial postion is my dream job" while under contract with the Fish. Since he was hired, all I have seen Girardi say on video and or quoted in the newspapers as saying is that he wants to be here and plans on being the coach of the Marlins for a long time.

I've said all along. I don't like Girardi as a person....he's already been quoted as saying the "Cubs managerial postion is my dream job" while under contract with the Fish. That's enough for me...

 

 

Please post a link to the article where Girardi is quoted as saying the "Cubs managerial postion is my dream job" while under contract with the Fish. Since he was hired, all I have seen Girardi say on video and or quoted in the newspapers as saying is that he wants to be here and plans on being the coach of the Marlins for a long time.

 

 

He'd drop us for Chicago in a heartbeat....he isn't fooling me....

 

Playing for the Cubs was a childhood dream for Girardi, who was born in Peoria, Ill.

 

On Monday, Girardi gets to go to Wrigley Field as a first-year manager.

 

"I was there when I was 6 years old," Girardi said of visiting Wrigley. "I've been there a lot. It's a great ballpark. It's a great atmosphere, day-in, day-out. The fans are great."

 

Some of Girardi's earliest ballpark moments are eating "Ron Santo Pizza" -- pepperoni pizza.

 

"I used to drive in my car and listen to Lou Boudreau and Jack Brickhouse," Girardi said.

 

A number of Girardi family members and friends are expected to attend at least one of the three games. Girardi's brother has obtained 50 tickets.

 

During the Chicago trip, Girardi plans on seeing his father, who suffers from Alzheimer's disease, plus seeing the parents of his wife, Kim.

 

"Playing there for the first time was a boyhood dream," Girardi said. "I'm excited to go home. I'm excited to go home and see Kim's parents and my father. I'm sure it will be different come 5 o'clock tomorrow. The anticipation will be a little different because I've been back before."

 

Another Article....

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26451

 

More rumors....

 

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/story/2005/10/19/142653/53

 

More rumors....

 

http://forums-beta.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=918409

 

 

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and old quotes........

 

The Yankees' bench coach told New York's WFAN Radio on Thursday that even if both the Marlins and Devil Rays offer him a chance to manage, he might stay put.

 

"I think I have a very good chance of getting one of these jobs, but to me the situation has to be right," Girardi said. "I'm not sure exactly what that means, but it has to be right for me to leave."

 

Asked if he needed assurances his next employer was committed to winning, Girardi answered cryptically.

 

"That's part of it," he said. "But you know there's other opportunities that I'm thinking about that could possibly open up later on. I'm not sure."

 

Girardi, who lives in Chicago, could have his eye on the Cubs managing job, where Dusty Baker might be on shaky ground. Girardi also is considered the top in-house candidate to replace Yankees manager Joe Torre should he leave.

 

 

 

ITS PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT THIS GUY WANTS!

 

 

 

 

good article....I expect Girardi to go to Chicago when Baker gets axed.....

 

 

Girardi manages to remember his roots

 

By Barry Rozner

Daily Herald Sports Columnist

Posted Tuesday, April 18, 2006

 

There?s little doubt Joe Girardi was born to manage the Chicago Cubs, and even less that he was born to manage, period.

 

But for the time being, the Peoria native is a 41-year-old, first-year manager of the Florida Marlins, an expansion team if you?ve ever seen one, and a fledgling one even if you haven?t.

 

Still, despite his young team?s struggles, Girardi comes to town next week with his stock quickly rising as an old-school baseball talent.

 

?You have to allow players to be themselves, to have a little style, as long as it doesn?t hurt the team and it?s not disrespectful,?? Girardi said Monday from Cincinnati. ?But to me, the big thing is, don?t draw attention to yourself by the way you look. Draw attention to yourself by the way you play.??

 

 

Girardi needed no lessons on how to play the game correctly and with respect, but he points to many influences in his managing style, not the least of which was his first big-league manager, Don Zimmer.

 

?Zim didn?t manage from a piece of paper. He managed from the heart,?? said Girardi, who spent three years with Zimmer in Chicago, three more in Colorado and four after that in New York. ?Zim believed in being aggressive and putting constant pressure on the defense.

 

?He was tough, but he also made it fun, and he was the first one to put his arm around a young player.

 

?Joe Torre was calm and controlled. He got the most out of his players and knew how to take pressure off his players by handling the media and expectations.

 

?Tony La Russa was prepared all the time, and Don Baylor had a rule that you couldn?t tell the trainer you were hurt. You had to tell him. He made Eric Young a heck of a player because E.Y. would go to him and say he was hurt, and Don would say, ?No, you?re not. You?re playing.?

 

?He made E.Y. tough, and he had a great career because of Don Baylor.??

 

Put them all together, and you have Joe Girardi and a brilliant future.

 

The education

 

Girardi, who grew up a Cubs fan and still calls himself one, lists plenty of Cubs who helped him climb the ladder without so much as one game as a minor-league manager, and only one season as Torre?s bench coach.

 

?I?m fortunate to be able to have Andre Dawson at every home game and during spring training because there is no greater example of love for the game, dedication and preparation,?? said Girardi, who caught two no-hitters (Dwight Gooden and David Cone) and won three world titles in New York (1996, 1998-99) during his 15-year career.

 

?There?s Ron Santo?s passion. How he?s not in the Hall of Fame. ? Some things just make no sense in life.

 

?Ryne Sandberg?s pure respect for the game, and his practice habits. He worked harder in practice than most guys worked in a game.

 

?Greg Maddux probably taught me more about pitching and hitting than anyone I?ve ever met. Most pitchers go inside (the clubhouse) during the game, but Maddux sits in the dugout and analyzes hitters? swings. A scouting report only gives you part of it.

 

?Roger Clemens? work ethic, Paul O?Neill?s intensity. He would never give away an at-bat. Derek Jeter?s poise in huge situations. He wanted to be up there. Not everyone does. You have to learn that.

 

?Our young kids here are trying to learn that, how to score off a closer, or get the last out. It takes time, but we?re learning.??

 

The boom box

 

Yes, Girardi did have a disagreement with Sammy Sosa over music when they were teammates, but he says it wasn?t as big a deal as was portrayed.

 

?I didn?t always like his choice of music, and I suppose he wouldn?t have liked mine, but it was blown out of proportion,?? Girardi said. ?When he was hitting, everything seemed to be OK, but when he got a little bit older, and maybe wasn?t as good a player, they tried to pull him back a little bit, and then players have to adjust and fit in with their teammates.

 

?Sammy didn?t change, but maybe his style wasn?t accepted because he wasn?t as good.??

 

While not exactly saying it, Girardi seems to agree that if you create the monster, you can?t only blame the monster for his actions.

 

?For a long time, he was the show and people fed off that, and the organization fed off that, and he brought a lot of people in,?? Girardi said. ?The thing is, Sammy played hard and he came to play, and I think as time passes, people will remember that.??

So, basically you have childhood memories and pre-Marlins quotes. They don't mean sh*t. Sure, he loves his childhood team. It's special for every ballplayer to play in the stadium of their hometown team in front of family and friends. I've seen nothing from him since his being hired as the Marlins manager to suggest he's not fully committed to this franchise. Keep in mind that I dislike the way he manages and didn't want him for the job.

So, basically you have childhood memories and pre-Marlins quotes. They don't mean sh*t. Sure, he loves his childhood team. It's special for every ballplayer to play in the stadium of their hometown team in front of family and friends. I've seen nothing from him since his being hired as the Marlins manager to suggest he's not fully committed to this franchise. Keep in mind that I dislike the way he manages and didn't want him for the job.

 

 

 

Look, I just don't trust the guy....

 

He could make more $ in Chicago, be happier by family, play in front of much larger crowds......

 

I think he'll leave.....maybe its just me.

So, basically you have childhood memories and pre-Marlins quotes. They don't mean sh*t. Sure, he loves his childhood team. It's special for every ballplayer to play in the stadium of their hometown team in front of family and friends. I've seen nothing from him since his being hired as the Marlins manager to suggest he's not fully committed to this franchise. Keep in mind that I dislike the way he manages and didn't want him for the job.

 

 

 

Look, I just don't trust the guy....

 

He could make more $ in Chicago, be happier by family, play in front of much larger crowds......

 

I think he'll leave.....maybe its just me.

he will leave if he is sick and tired of managing future all-stars with a chance to win it all...those are two things the cubs dont have and probably wont for a while either...

He will be no more successful in Chicago, they are a team still going downhill, and will be in the basement for a couple of years. Staying here for the remainder of his contract will be better for his career in the short and long term. Short term little was expected and he is gaining much of the credit for the season being a success (in terms of earlier goals), long term - we know he is making mistakes, making them here in a lower pressure environment, whilst working his way along the learning curve makes sense. By the end of his 3 year tenure he will be much better prepared for a pressure cooker position.

This topic should be locked, Giardi already said there is no "out" clause and that he shook hands in the agreement. Those are nothing but rumors for the media to keep making their money off of.

? Girardi has had friends making it known in Chicago that he would like the Cubs job. The Cubs, however, aren't interested.

 

LOS ANGELES - Baseball had its first managerial change of the season this week.

But it doesn't count because nothing really changed.

 

Florida owner Jeffrey Loria fired manager Joe Girardi on Sunday afternoon, but before the announcement could be made, Loria reconsidered and Girardi was retained. The blowup came when Loria, who sits beside the Marlins dugout at Dolphin Stadium, was yelling at umpires Sunday and Girardi told him to cool it.

 

The problems, however, go deeper than an in-game blowup. Girardi was Loria's hand-picked manager, but Loria has become concerned about Girardi's controlling personality that has been compared with that of Texas manager Buck Showalter.

 

Problems began during spring training when Girardi belittled suggestions by members of the organization that Ricky Nolasco and Josh Johnson should be in the rotation instead of middle relief, where they opened the season. It was more than a month before Girardi backed down and gave both opportunities to start, which turned out to be a critical factor as the Marlins rebounded from a miserable start to be competitive.

 

Girardi might be wise to heed the words of former big league exec Buzzie Bavasi.

 

"We operated by the Golden Rule," Bavasi said. "He who has the gold rules."

 

 

No idea what his sources are...some of this stuff he's laying out as fact without the appearance of speculating.

 

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/spor...4909894,00.html

 

There's also another article that says the press-room setup was for Girardi's firing after he told Loria to stuff a sock in it. Sorry if this was already posted somewhere.

Some of the local writers said Girardi may have quit and changed his mind but in this article Ringolsby says Loria fired Girardi. We'll probably never know what truly happened. It should be noted that Ringolsby is one of the more respected baseball writers in the country so what he writes carries a bit more weight than what most others write, at least in my book.

Man, you people love gossip. The short and long of it is this... Girardi is under contract for 3 years, with no out clause. Which means that unless Loria fires him, he is our manager until at least the end of the 2008 season. Whatever happens after that, who knows. Managerial changes happen all the time. I don't know why this is such a big deal.

 

Personally, I would love Girardi to stay for years and years and build a history here. It's no secret that he enjoys South Florida. He's been quoted as saying how much he loves living down here.... He also has to feel like this is his team. He is building this team from a bunch of rookies. If they keep this team together and they begin to be big contenders in a couple of years, I look for Girardi to stick around and win a World Series with them.... If he does want to leave, my guess is that it would be clashes between him and the ownership. I like our ownership, but history has shown that they are difficult to work/play for... (see Graeme Lloyd and Felipe Alou).

Girardi was to be fired By Joe Capozzi

 

 

 

PHOENIX — Turns out there was a good reason Sunday for the Marlins to make preparations for an impromptu news conference: Owner Jeffrey Loria was going to announce that he had fired manager Joe Girardi.

 

But Loria was persuaded to change his mind in a heated post-game meeting, during which Girardi agreed to apologize to the owner in front of the team, according to sources with knowledge of the events.

 

"Everyone is going to write what they think happened. All I know is I'm still the manager of the Florida Marlins and I'm here,'' Girardi said Friday before Florida's game against the Arizona Diamondbacks.

 

Asked if Loria had fired him and changed his mind, Girardi replied: "I'll discuss things at the end of the year. Right now the important thing is our club, and I'm still the manager of the Marlins.''

 

 

Loria had no comment Friday night, team spokesman P.J. Loyello said.

 

The incident that triggered Sunday's events at Dolphin Stadium began in the seventh inning of the game against the Los Angeles Dodgers, who went on to sweep the three-game series.

 

Loria, occupying his field-level seat next to the Marlins dugout, was barking at plate umpire Admin Vanover about balls and strikes. Girardi motioned for Loria to stop, one source said, the implication being, "Hey, leave him alone, we're trying to win a game."

 

Loria, according to two sources, then put up two fingers to indicate that it was the second straight game in which umpires made questionable calls. On Saturday, Girardi had been ejected for arguing balls and strikes.

 

"Then Girardi said, 'Just stay out of it. I'm the manager.''" one source said. "And Loria said, 'Well, I'm the owner,' or words to that effect. 'If you don't like what I'm telling you, you're fired.''"

 

Another source said Girardi used profanities when telling Loria to stop, which angered Loria even more.

 

At that point, "Loria got up out of his seat and was preparing to get rid of Joe," one source said. "Jeffrey can be very knee-jerk. Before he was done walking up the aisle, Jeffrey made up his mind to fire Joe right after the game.''

 

At one point, team aides were setting up a Dolphin Stadium interview room, which is used by the Marlins for major announcements.

 

It was only after Marlins President David Samson, General Manager Admin Beinfest and Assistant General Manager Mike Hill intervened during a post-game meeting in Girardi's office that Loria changed his mind.

 

"They stopped and thought about this, that it would be a public relations nightmare if the resurging Florida Marlins were to have fired a man who turned them around,'' a source said.

 

When the doors to Girardi's office opened, the manager then addressed his team. With Loria watching, Girardi apologized for losing his temper with Loria in full view of players in the dugout.

Marlins players on Friday refused to talk about Sunday's incident. One person said the players and coaches "were sworn to secrecy.''

 

Sources have told The Palm Beach Post that Girardi, a former New York Yankees catcher and bench coach, and Loria have been at odds since at least last month.

 

"(Girardi) likes to say, 'Well, the Yankees would do things this way,' but they don't want to hear that,'' one source said.

 

A Marlins source confirmed a report Friday in the Rocky Mountain News that said friction between Girardi and the front office began in spring training.

 

Baseball columnist Tracy Ringolsby wrote in the Denver newspaper that "Girardi belittled suggestions by members of the organization in March that Ricky Nolasco and Josh Johnson should open the season in the rotation instead of middle relief ...

 

"It was more than a month before Girardi backed down and gave both opportunities to start, which turned out to be a critical fact as the Marlins rebounded from a miserable start to be competitive.''

 

The Marlins began the season 11-31 in Girardi's first season as a manager, but then turned around their season. They were the hottest team in the majors in one long stretch, and still have a chance for a wild-card berth.

 

 

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/conte...loria_0812.html

 

More fuel to the fire...

Again the story is also up on espn.com as well.

The bolded statement kind of worries me, but whatever. Again this could be the media blowing this up, but man it doesn't seem good right now.

With this report from Capozzi, I now am leaning toward believing this rift between Girardi and Loria is real. If it is true Loria and Girardi have been butting heads for awhile and Loria forced Girardi to apologize to him in front of him and the team, I will not be suprised if he leaves after this season.

 

Girardi's statement bolded above indicates to me he will not be the Marlins manager after this season, but will finish out the season here.

 

Then again, Girardi shouldn't have tried to tell his boss what to do it a heated moment or telling him that the "Yankees would do things this way." Very foolish. If he gets a job with the Yankees does that to Steinbrenner he can expect a similiar reaction.

Well its now front page ESPN.com.

From the start of this my opinion has been that, while the story has likely been exaggerated or embellished, there was truth in it. It just couldn't have been a complete fabrication. Sometimes we find it easier to put on our teal colored glasses and see things the way we would like but all teams have unpleasant issues from time to time.

make the playoffs and all this goes away. do it.

Asked if Loria had fired him and changed his mind, Girardi replied: "I'll discuss things at the end of the year. Right now the important thing is our club, and I'm still the manager of the Marlins.''

 

 

 

 

 

This basically tells me that unless things change Girardi is a goner after the season. They won't go another season if they're still at odds.

The interesting thing is why Loria would want to fire Girardi (if that is what actually happened). I doubt Loria would want to fire Girardi because they got into one heated exchange. Maybe Loria has higher expecatations for our team?

Yeah Loria probably figures his 15 million dollar team should have a 7 game lead in the NL East.

 

 

I doubt it.

 

 

If Loria does have higher expectations he is a stooge.