Great job, bullpen! I leave to grab something to eat (game was 2-0) and I just found out we lost the game. Wonderful. This is getting old.

 

It doesn't matter if we only scored 2 runs. Learn to hold a freaking lead!

 

 

Damn right!

 

Perfection's EXPECTED!!!!!!

It doesn't matter if we only scored 2 runs. Learn to hold a freaking lead!

 

 

:thumbup Its not like we are asking the bullpen to throw 4 shutout innings.

Damn right!

 

Perfection's EXPECTED!!!!!!

 

Nobody's asking for perfection so I'm not sure why you are insinuating that. It'd just be nice if they could hold a lead once in awhile.

 

Is it that much to ask? Sure we should have more runs but the fact remains we had the lead and the pen let it slip away, something they've done time and time again this year.

 

On another note, the title... I hope Joe doesn't read this board. He's ripped on a daily basis by some and usually without any real reason except personal bias.

Great job, bullpen! I leave to grab something to eat (game was 2-0) and I just found out we lost the game. Wonderful. This is getting old.

 

It doesn't matter if we only scored 2 runs. Learn to hold a freaking lead!

 

 

Damn right!

 

Perfection's EXPECTED!!!!!!

Yeah, that's what I said.

Great job, bullpen! I leave to grab something to eat (game was 2-0) and I just found out we lost the game. Wonderful. This is getting old.

 

It doesn't matter if we only scored 2 runs. Learn to hold a freaking lead!

 

 

Damn right!

 

Perfection's EXPECTED!!!!!!

Yeah, that's what I said.

 

Well, 2-1 game handed to the bullpen and expecting the lead to be held is, to me, perfection.

 

Just FYI.

Damn right!

 

Perfection's EXPECTED!!!!!!

 

Nobody's asking for perfection so I'm not sure why you are insinuating that. It'd just be nice if they could hold a lead once in awhile.

 

Is it that much to ask? Sure we should have more runs but the fact remains we had the lead and the pen let it slip away, something they've done time and time again this year.

 

On another note, the title... I hope Joe doesn't read this board. He's ripped on a daily basis by some and usually without any real reason except personal bias.

 

 

 

 

amen brotha

Tank seems like one of the very very few I trust in the pen, and I am afraid that he is being overused and that will catch up to him at some point

On another note, the title... I hope Joe doesn't read this board. He's ripped on a daily basis by some and usually without any real reason except personal bias.

 

I usually have a reason for it... I give him his due when he does something good

We are definitely not scoring enough runs but we could have had a 7 run lead and the call to the bullpen would still make me cringe. I feel for the starting pitchers.

Im starting not to care about the hole in Cf as long as next year we get a bullpen

It's amazing how some of you are afraid to criticize Resop. It's ok...Forty4 is not going to jump out of your computer screen and hurt you. You are allowed to say Resop sucks just like you can say Messenger sucks or Abercrombie sucks. If that is your opinion, its ok and you are not an idiot. Resop has a bad habit of getting behind in counts and then throwing meatballs right down the middle. If you want to dispute that, THEN YOU DONT WATCH THE GAMES. He gets hammered just about everytime he pitches. He had 1 good inning about a week ago and then flamarlins.com put up a retarded article about how he is a reliable arm in out pen. His ERA was deceptively low for a while. Look at his batting avg allowed. Opponents are hitting .319 against him. That is awful. Even worse, his whip is 1.98 (before tonight). The only players even close (but still not as bad) to that horrific whip are Vargas, Petit, and Franklyn German. If the other team has a runner on base and you want the runner to score, bring in Resop. If you want to put a runner on base, bring in Resop. I'm sure even forty4 knows this.

It's amazing how some of you are afraid to criticize Resop. It's ok...Forty4 is not going to jump out of your computer screen and hurt you. You are allowed to say Resop sucks just like you can say Messenger sucks or Abercrombie sucks. If that is your opinion, its ok and you are not an idiot. Resop has a bad habit of getting behind in counts and then throwing meatballs right down the middle. If you want to dispute that, THEN YOU DONT WATCH THE GAMES. He gets hammered just about everytime he pitches. He had 1 good inning about a week ago and then flamarlins.com put up a retarded article about how he is a reliable arm in out pen. His ERA was deceptively low for a while. Look at his batting avg allowed. Opponents are hitting .319 against him. That is awful. Even worse, his whip is 1.98 (before tonight). The only players even close (but still not as bad) to that horrific whip are Vargas, Petit, and Franklyn German. If the other team has a runner on base and you want the runner to score, bring in Resop. If you want to put a runner on base, bring in Resop. I'm sure even forty4 knows this.

 

I cant see why anyone would defend Resop people dont say he sucks because we already know it

I've said this countless times on this forum, but you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t no matter how much mayonnaise you put in it...

 

 

Funny quote :lol

 

The problem isn't that Resop sucks, the problem is that he was rushed to the big leagues when he wasn't major league ready.

I've been syaing it all year and Forty4 and Admin have been all over me about it

 

CHRIS RESOP IS NOT MAJOR LEAGUE TALENT

 

and you're an idiot :thumbup

 

Well, this person defends Resop.....by calling you an idiot. At least some of you aren't afraid of the Resop police.

It's amazing how some of you are afraid to criticize Resop. It's ok...Forty4 is not going to jump out of your computer screen and hurt you. You are allowed to say Resop sucks just like you can say Messenger sucks or Abercrombie sucks. If that is your opinion, its ok and you are not an idiot. Resop has a bad habit of getting behind in counts and then throwing meatballs right down the middle. If you want to dispute that, THEN YOU DONT WATCH THE GAMES. He gets hammered just about everytime he pitches. He had 1 good inning about a week ago and then flamarlins.com put up a retarded article about how he is a reliable arm in out pen. His ERA was deceptively low for a while. Look at his batting avg allowed. Opponents are hitting .319 against him. That is awful. Even worse, his whip is 1.98 (before tonight). The only players even close (but still not as bad) to that horrific whip are Vargas, Petit, and Franklyn German. If the other team has a runner on base and you want the runner to score, bring in Resop. If you want to put a runner on base, bring in Resop. I'm sure even forty4 knows this.

 

I cant see why anyone would defend Resop people dont say he sucks because we already know it

we should cut him.... first of all he makes too much, he is also too old at 23 and has too many innings logged at 25 or so :thumbup

Just so we can clear things up...there's a difference between "sucking" and "not being ready."

 

Now, Resop sucks right now, but there's a hope for him in the future.

You know, not everybody who is 23 is going to be good at some point. Yes, Resop throws hard. Beyond that, what do you like? Matt Goyen is 23 and in our minor league system, let the crusade begin!

 

There is a reason guys see a limited amount of innings in the bigs.

It's amazing how some of you are afraid to criticize Resop. It's ok...Forty4 is not going to jump out of your computer screen and hurt you. You are allowed to say Resop sucks just like you can say Messenger sucks or Abercrombie sucks. If that is your opinion, its ok and you are not an idiot. Resop has a bad habit of getting behind in counts and then throwing meatballs right down the middle. If you want to dispute that, THEN YOU DONT WATCH THE GAMES. He gets hammered just about everytime he pitches. He had 1 good inning about a week ago and then flamarlins.com put up a retarded article about how he is a reliable arm in out pen. His ERA was deceptively low for a while. Look at his batting avg allowed. Opponents are hitting .319 against him. That is awful. Even worse, his whip is 1.98 (before tonight). The only players even close (but still not as bad) to that horrific whip are Vargas, Petit, and Franklyn German. If the other team has a runner on base and you want the runner to score, bring in Resop. If you want to put a runner on base, bring in Resop. I'm sure even forty4 knows this.

 

I cant see why anyone would defend Resop people dont say he sucks because we already know it

we should cut him.... first of all he makes too much, he is also too old at 23 and has too many innings logged at 25 or so :thumbup

 

I didn't say we should cut him. Just don't say someone is an idiot for saying he sucks....because he does suck...horribly. If you check Resop's stats and compare them to just about every pitcher in baseball, you would not be wrong to conclude that Resop is one of the worst pitchers in the majors. By the way, his WHIP is twice as high as the great Darren Oliver. I know Oliver is having a good season, but that is still funny.

You know, not everybody who is 23 is going to be good at some point. Yes, Resop throws hard. Beyond that, what do you like? Matt Goyen is 23 and in our minor league system, let the crusade begin!

 

There is a reason guys see a limited amount of innings in the bigs.

 

you need to take into account that a) Resop is in his 3rd year of being a fulltime pitcher and b) he dominated the minors

 

the kid has a live arm and is only going to get better

 

comparing him to Matt Goyen is laughable

I am completely aware of Chris Resop's situation. What makes you believe he is only going to get better? If you want this team to improve next year, you don't want anymore Chris Resops in the bullpen. If we still need to depend on players like Resop next year, it will be a lot like this year and we can write off another year to talent evaluation.

I am completely aware of Chris Resop's situation. What makes you believe he is only going to get better? If you want this team to improve next year, you don't want anymore Chris Resop's in the bullpen. If we still need to depend on players like Resop next year, it will be a lot like this year and we can write off another year to talent evaluation.

 

I dont know why you would think that he wouldnt get better. Not everyone comes up to the bigs as a rookie and lights the world on fire. He has the stuff and from what I have heard, he has that bulldog mentality to boot. I think he will be a fine bullpen guy in 2007, but I guess all we can do is wait.

I am completely aware of Chris Resop's situation. What makes you believe he is only going to get better? If you want this team to improve next year, you don't want anymore Chris Resop's in the bullpen. If we still need to depend on players like Resop next year, it will be a lot like this year and we can write off another year to talent evaluation.

 

I dont know why you would think that he wouldnt get better. Not everyone comes up to the bigs as a rookie and lights the world on fire. He has the stuff and from what I have heard, he has that bulldog mentality to boot. I think he will be a fine bullpen guy in 2007, but I guess all we can do is wait. I guess thats what happens when people get spoiled like we have been this year. Expectations are set way too high.

 

 

You want to say someone like Randy Messenger sucks go right ahead. Resop has had a couple of bad outings and that's it.

I honestly believe what guys like Resop (and I felt empathetic when I watched Girardi call on Aguila with two outs in the ninth to face Wagner after his sitting for two weeks, coming off a torrid ending to his AAA campaign) need work. Lots of work.

 

Instead of waiting for the worst or toughest opportunities, gives these more work more often. Maybe a batter, a couple ofnights in a row, but use them, don't let them wilt away on the bench and say "OMG he failed".

 

But again this, like the night before's loss belong on the offense.

I honestly believe what guys like Resop (and I felt empathetic when I watched Girardi call on Aguila with two outs in the ninth to face Wagner after his sitting for two weeks, coming off a torrid ending to his AAA campaign) need work. Lots of work.

 

Instead of waiting for the worst or toughest opportunities, gives these more work more often. Maybe a batter, a couple ofnights in a row, but use them, don't let them wilt away on the bench and say "OMG he failed".

 

But again this, like the night before's loss belong on the offense.

 

 

 

Let's see: 1) Marlins lead

2) Bullpen coughs up lead

3) Marlins 2003 says: "I blame it on the offense."

 

Have you lost your mind? The offense's job is to get a lead. They did. The bullpen's job is to hold the lead. They didn't. You obviously know nothing about the game.

 

And "give these guys work more often?" Are you nuts? We don't have any depth, because our payroll is $20 million less than the next cheapest team, the Devil Rays. If he "gave them more work" people like you would complain about why he was playing such bums and sitting the few decent players we have. But you are too ignorant to see that. To you, every loss has to be the fault of someone on the field, when in reality the Marlins pitifully low payroll makes it impossible to reach the playoffs because the lack of depth limits the options available to the manager and his coaches.

It's amazing how some of you are afraid to criticize Resop. It's ok...Forty4 is not going to jump out of your computer screen and hurt you. You are allowed to say Resop sucks just like you can say Messenger sucks or Abercrombie sucks. If that is your opinion, its ok and you are not an idiot. Resop has a bad habit of getting behind in counts and then throwing meatballs right down the middle. If you want to dispute that, THEN YOU DONT WATCH THE GAMES. He gets hammered just about everytime he pitches. He had 1 good inning about a week ago and then flamarlins.com put up a retarded article about how he is a reliable arm in out pen. His ERA was deceptively low for a while. Look at his batting avg allowed. Opponents are hitting .319 against him. That is awful. Even worse, his whip is 1.98 (before tonight). The only players even close (but still not as bad) to that horrific whip are Vargas, Petit, and Franklyn German. If the other team has a runner on base and you want the runner to score, bring in Resop. If you want to put a runner on base, bring in Resop. I'm sure even forty4 knows this.

 

 

 

Amen.......he needs work and the experience....AAA is alot different from MLB....and I think we found that to be true with the starters this season as well.....initially they were horrible...then with more starts and a better understanding of hitters...they settled down and have done an admirable job.....everyone has their opinion....it makes threads very interesting to read....