Saban is a loser and that is it, i'm glad that he is leaving because those players and us the fans don't deserve this and he is a liar and i hope that he does a really bad job in Alabama!!! :thumbdown

Well at the least the Gators don't play Alabama in 07 or 08.

 

FSU on the other hand. :mischief

 

Must seem odd that a school goes out and plays major out of conference opponents.

Dolphins need a lot of help....they are going no where with a horrible O-Line....aging stars Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor, a RB who doesn't live up to expectations, and an injured Daunte. Good luck....

why would pete carroll leave paradise to goto miami?

 

 

and nick saban had to take this job.

 

 

1) The money

 

2) Its Alabama

 

 

Sorry but the Dolphins are not one of the most prestigious teams in the NFL, while Alabama holds that 'presige' throughout all of college football.

 

This opportunity would never have come along again for him.

 

I'm a Dolphins fan and clearly biased, but I would think the Miami job would indeed be considered one of the most desirable, at least historically. We're in a pile of crap right now, but you could say the same of the 49ers, and I would still consider that a prestigious franchise. I don't know if we stll do, but as of a couple years ago the Dolphins had the highest winning percentage of any franchise in professional sports. And they have a very good owner. So, in terms of tradition, and strength of fanbase, and ownership...it's a great job. But in terms of talent, and prospects for the future, well, it's not so great.

why would pete carroll leave paradise to goto miami?

 

 

and nick saban had to take this job.

 

 

1) The money

 

2) Its Alabama

 

 

Sorry but the Dolphins are not one of the most prestigious teams in the NFL, while Alabama holds that 'presige' throughout all of college football.

 

This opportunity would never have come along again for him.

 

I'm a Dolphins fan and clearly biased, but I would think the Miami job would indeed be considered one of the most desirable, at least historically. We're in a pile of crap right now, but you could say the same of the 49ers, and I would still consider that a prestigious franchise. I don't know if we stll do, but as of a couple years ago the Dolphins had the highest winning percentage of any franchise in professional sports. And they have a very good owner. So, in terms of tradition, and strength of fanbase, and ownership...it's a great job. But in terms of talent, and prospects for the future, well, it's not so great.

 

I think if this was 1999 (marinos last year) I would agree with you. But the poundings they got in the playoffs in the late 90's and their current playoff drought, I think they have dropped very quickly. Are they a top ten franchise? Probably, but not top 5.

why would pete carroll leave paradise to goto miami?

 

 

and nick saban had to take this job.

 

 

1) The money

 

2) Its Alabama

 

 

Sorry but the Dolphins are not one of the most prestigious teams in the NFL, while Alabama holds that 'presige' throughout all of college football.

 

This opportunity would never have come along again for him.

 

I'm a Dolphins fan and clearly biased, but I would think the Miami job would indeed be considered one of the most desirable, at least historically. We're in a pile of crap right now, but you could say the same of the 49ers, and I would still consider that a prestigious franchise. I don't know if we stll do, but as of a couple years ago the Dolphins had the highest winning percentage of any franchise in professional sports. And they have a very good owner. So, in terms of tradition, and strength of fanbase, and ownership...it's a great job. But in terms of talent, and prospects for the future, well, it's not so great.

 

I think if this was 1999 (marinos last year) I would agree with you. But the poundings they got in the playoffs in the late 90's and their current playoff drought, I think they have dropped very quickly. Are they a top ten franchise? Probably, but not top 5.

 

 

going into this year they had the highest winning percentage of any professional sports franchise in the US for the big 3 (I forget if it included hockey but I think it did also). Not sure after this year I will need to look it up.

 

But the franchise is one of the most desirable jobs around and there will be no lack of people wanting it.

 

1. A great owner that will spend any amount to win.

2. Great Facilities including that weird bubble dome

3. Large fanbase that is even international

4. Great tradition

5. A patient owner that will stick with coaches and not quickly drop them (even wannstadt got 5 years).

6. South florida is one of the top 5 best places to live in the US.

 

 

They dont have some of the talent of some of the other teams out there right now but they are a good setup still to draw in a coach.

 

I am starting to like the idea of Norm Chow after reading more about his past. He seems to have done some amazing work

 

As for top franchises, that is a personal thing to suggest. But I believe there was a forbes article earlier in the year (as done every year) with the value of the NFL franchises and it was top 5 behind Dallas and the Giants if I remember right.

The Dolphins are one of the top jobs, but I'd hesitate putting them in the top 5. To me, being in a great football city with a great ownership group is most important.

 

IMO:

1. Steelers

2. Bears

3. Giants

4. Cowboys

5. KC

 

And you could argue teams like NE, Green Bay, Philly and Indy above Miami.

Well at the least the Gators don't play Alabama in 07 or 08.

 

FSU on the other hand. :mischief

 

Must seem odd that a school goes out and plays major out of conference opponents.

 

Durrrr.....you mean like playing Miami in 2008 in 2009?

 

But hey, those games OOC games against Rice, Western Michigan, Troy, FIU and FAMU were some solid matchups compared to Florida's this season.

Well at the least the Gators don't play Alabama in 07 or 08.

 

FSU on the other hand. :mischief

 

Must seem odd that a school goes out and plays major out of conference opponents.

 

Durrrr.....you mean like playing Miami in 2008 in 2009?

 

But hey, those games OOC games against Rice, Western Michigan, Troy, FIU and FAMU were some solid matchups compared to Florida's this season.

I believe miami has texas and okhlahoma coming up soon too

Well at the least the Gators don't play Alabama in 07 or 08.

 

FSU on the other hand. :mischief

 

Must seem odd that a school goes out and plays major out of conference opponents.

 

Durrrr.....you mean like playing Miami in 2008 in 2009?

 

But hey, those games OOC games against Rice, Western Michigan, Troy, FIU and FAMU were some solid matchups compared to Florida's this season.

I believe miami has texas and okhlahoma coming up soon too

 

texas a&m not texas

 

They also have ohio state in 2010 i think

Yeah, I'm not saying the Dolphins are top 5 right now, but you'd have to have them in the top 10, I would think.

 

Steelers, Bears, possibly the whole NFC East, Packers, 49ers, Dolphins, and someone else (Chiefs? Stinking Jets?)

 

I'd hesitate to throw Indy or NE up there...these were real sad-sack franchises until the last 5-10 years. The Pats were the 4th most popular team in Boston, and the Colts were the sad sister of the old AFC East.

 

Obviously, there's a ton of personal bias and subjectivity that goes into this.

Saban's a piece of sh*t who spent two years mismanaging the franchise into the ground and then bolts.

 

What a sack of crap.

The Dolphins are one of the top jobs, but I'd hesitate putting them in the top 5. To me, being in a great football city with a great ownership group is most important.

 

IMO:

1. Steelers

2. Bears

3. Giants

4. Cowboys

5. KC

 

And you could argue teams like NE, Green Bay, Philly and Indy above Miami.

 

No way. You don't even have the 49ers in there.

 

Here's mine, in no particular order:

 

Steelers

49ers

Cowboys

Packers

Bears

Dolphins

Giants

Raiders

Redskins

Eagles

 

 

NE and Indy are recent successes. The ten teams named above are the top 10 franchises over the last 40 years.

Weis smacked saban upside the head today with comments lol.

 

"I know all coaches are believed to be liars now." "But, I want to be at norte Dame till my 8th grade son graduates from it"

 

 

Good for him and ND.

Weis smacked saban upside the head today with comments lol.

 

"I know all coaches are believed to be liars now." "But, I want to be at norte Dame till my 8th grade son graduates from it"

 

 

Good for him and ND.

I was hoping he'd coach in the NFL but at least he pretty much called Saban a douche.

The Dolphins are one of the top jobs, but I'd hesitate putting them in the top 5. To me, being in a great football city with a great ownership group is most important.

 

IMO:

1. Steelers

2. Bears

3. Giants

4. Cowboys

5. KC

 

And you could argue teams like NE, Green Bay, Philly and Indy above Miami.

 

No way. You don't even have the 49ers in there.

 

Here's mine, in no particular order:

 

Steelers

49ers

Cowboys

Packers

Bears

Dolphins

Giants

Raiders

Redskins

Eagles

 

 

NE and Indy are recent successes. The ten teams named above are the top 10 franchises over the last 40 years.

 

Indy might even move because of poor money from theirstadium and attendence for a while too. They were rumored to go to LA often.

 

Like I said though Forbes has the dolphins as worth some of the most money in the NFL and up there for overall sports franchises. Either way it matters little, it is a good job and they will have plenty of folks wanting it honestly.

I considered the Raiders, but they've moved twice in the last 25 years or so, and their owner is a nutjob.

Dolphins need a lot of help....they are going no where with a horrible O-Line....aging stars Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor, a RB who doesn't live up to expectations, and an injured Daunte. Good luck....

 

Thomas lead the NFL in tackles and JT had a career year. Those old farts...

Dolphins need a lot of help....they are going no where with a horrible O-Line....aging stars Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor, a RB who doesn't live up to expectations, and an injured Daunte. Good luck....

 

Thomas lead the NFL in tackles and JT had a career year. Those old farts...

Yeah and lets write off Ronnie Brown after 2 seasons. Our "aging stars" both had career years and apparentley THEY are part of the problem.

 

Your reaching there WMM2003.

 

Hey good luck with that playoff thing.

Well at the least the Gators don't play Alabama in 07 or 08.

 

FSU on the other hand. :mischief

 

Must seem odd that a school goes out and plays major out of conference opponents.

 

Durrrr.....you mean like playing Miami in 2008 in 2009?

 

But hey, those games OOC games against Rice, Western Michigan, Troy, FIU and FAMU were some solid matchups compared to Florida's this season.

 

Yep, it was one year of lesser quality OOC opponents for FSU, no doubt about it but that is not the usual. It is the usual case for UF and they won't leave the state for an OOC game. FSU is at Colorado next year and in Jax for Bama.... Colorado, BYU and then Oklahoma are added to the schedule beyond that.... I was really just making a quick comment. Best of luck in the Title game.

Personally I think this is really lame of Nick Saban.

Saban's a piece of sh*t who spent two years mismanaging the franchise into the ground and then bolts.

 

What a sack of crap.

:lol :lol

 

don't mince words now Swifty...

Dark day for Dolphins? Maybe notSTEVEN WINE

Associated Press

DAVIE, Fla. - There was laughter in the lobby and joking in the hallways at the Miami Dolphins complex Wednesday. For the first time in months, the team president and even assistant coaches talked to reporters.

 

Coach Nick Saban was gone, leaving the Dolphins to face their third coaching change since 2000.

 

A dark day for the organization?

 

"I don't think so," cornerback Will Allen said. "Every time something happens, everybody wants to look at the negative things to it. There could be some positive things."

 

For those who believed Saban's pledges of fidelity to the Dolphins over the past five weeks, his departure for Alabama was a stunner. He left after only two NFL seasons, and acknowledged last month that his job of rebuilding the team into a playoff contender was unfinished.

 

But as he boarded a plane to Tuscaloosa, the mood at team headquarters - and elsewhere in South Florida - was far from gloomy.

 

"My reaction is that Saban in two years was 15-17," former Dolphins coach Don Shula said. "I don't think that will be any great loss."

Shula viewed the situation harshly in part because the Crimson Tide fired his son, Mike, creating the vacancy that Saban will fill. But others weary of Saban's autocratic approach embraced the fresh start under a new regime.

 

Even assistant coaches left in limbo - but no longer off-limits to the media - were amused by the change in atmosphere.

 

"Good to talk to you," top assistant Dom Capers told reporters with a smile.

 

Owner Wayne Huizenga said he regretted Saban's departure, but was eager to turn the page following a disappointing 6-10 season - and a franchise-record fifth consecutive year out of the playoffs.

 

"There's only one thing I'm really concerned about now," Huizenga said. "I don't want to dwell on the past. All I want to figure out is how the heck we're going to win."

 

Huizenga didn't rule out hiring a college coach again. Saban came to the Dolphins from Louisiana State two years ago.

 

Possible candidates from the NFL include Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, former Green Bay head coach Mike Sherman, San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, Indianapolis assistant head coach Jim Caldwell, Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow and Pittsburgh Steelers assistants Russ Grimm and Ken Whisenhunt.

 

Another possibility is Capers, a former head coach at Carolina and Houston.

 

"When opportunities present themselves, you certainly want to look at them," Capers said.

 

Miami will compete for candidates with the Arizona Cardinals and Atlanta Falcons, both of whom fired their coach.

 

The Dolphins are coming off their third losing season since 1969 and face a likely roster overhaul. With Daunte Culpepper still struggling to recover from reconstructive knee surgery in 2005, Miami remains unsettled at quarterback, a troublesome position since Dan Marino retired seven years ago. The team needs upgrades in almost every other area for a feeble offense and aging defense.

 

"Ultimately it's the players who are going to make this team," receiver Wes Welker said.

 

Saban leaves behind the NFL's largest staff of assistants and general manager Randy Mueller, who might be given more responsibility under a new regime. Mueller will play a role in the search, which will be led by Joe Bailey, chief executive officer of Dolphins Enterprises, and Brian Wiedmeier, the Dolphins' president and chief operating officer.

 

Wiedmeier declined to set a timetable.

 

"You'd like to have it done as soon as possible," he said. "But the primary focus is getting the right person. So as long as it takes to get that right person, we're committed to doing that."

 

The drill is a familiar one during a frustrating stretch of instability for a franchise that once had the same coach - Shula - for 26 years. Miami hired Jimmy Johnson in 1996, Dave Wannstedt in 2000 and then Saban.

 

With all the changes, Huizenga has yet to reach the AFC championship game since becoming majority owner in 1994.

 

"It's no fun owning a team if you're not winning, I can tell you that," Huizenga said. "And we are absolutely, positively going to get back to being a winning team. And sooner rather than later."

 

:lol Gotta love Don Shula. And I agree with him.

Le Batard: Saban leaves as a loser, weasel

BY DAN LE BATARD

 

The punctuation on the Nick Saban Error is greasy and greedy. You know what he was as Dolphins coach? A failure. A loser. A gasbag. And one of the worst investments Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga has ever made. He was less of a success than Dave Wannstedt and more of a traitor than Ricky Williams. There has been very little in franchise history that came with more expectations and fewer results than this hypocrite who at the end avoided the hard questions one last time.

 

Talk like a warrior. Behave like a weasel.

 

Maybe Saban would be better off in college. Because, in the pros the last few days, he has looked like a complete and utter amateur.

 

He will be remembered in these parts as a quitter and a liar. He leaves the franchise in last place, with what used to be his good name somehow far lower than that. And for this he'll get a $25 million raise and more job security in Alabama. Makes you wonder what USC's Pete Carroll or Ohio State's Jim Tressel are worth, doesn't it?

 

Admin Coker, a decent man, gets fired for his one championship. Saban, a duplicitous one, gets the most lucrative job in college football.

 

Saban could have fixed his reputation today if he had that mental toughness he is always sermonizing about. We have the meandering spiel memorized by now. About ''competitive character'' and ''overcoming adversity'' and blah, blah, blah. You preach it, Nick. But you don't live it. Not when it's easier to run away and hide.

 

Miami, 6-10 against an easy schedule, was swept this year by younger teams in its division -- the Jets and Bills. The team isn't better than when Saban arrived, just older. What little winning Saban has done has been with players left for him by Jimmy Johnson and Dave Wannstedt. What's the best decision Saban has made in two years? Can you name one?

 

So it makes sense that he would lack hope. But when his players are losing, he asks them to be proud and fight and overcome, even though what they do hurts a hell of a lot more than what he does. But now, reputation in tatters, integrity stained, he runs away from this fight -- to be a dictator to kids who question less and have less power to challenge him. Of course he'd go. It's a good deal easier. And a new crowd eager for a savior can hear his hot-air speeches about being a gladiator.

 

Saban made Huizenga look like a public fool with all his condescending talk of integrity recently, reprimanding reporters at every turn while his agent secretly kept taking slimy calls from Alabama in the shadows. What a raging fraud Saban sounds like today, every bit as counterfeit as Miami's Super Bowl expectations.

 

Oh, a man, even one under contract, is allowed to change his mind and listen to other offers, especially those that double his salary. But what makes Saban's behavior so unctuous recently is that he had the audacity to question the questioners with super-sized arrogance even while lying all along to his players and his boss. Huizenga has given this man everything he has wanted -- given him more than any NFL owner anywhere has given any other coach. He deserves better than this. He deserves better than Saban leaving him to answer the hard questions today.

 

Makes you wonder, too: Huizenga went after Ricky Williams and his money with cutthroat zeal, and Williams is still paying him back. But Saban just broke a contract, too. There are no outs in Saban's contract to go back to the minor leagues.

 

Remember how mad you were when Williams retired? Well, he wasn't cheating on you. He wasn't grabbing for more money. His body hurt from a beating, and he wanted to rest. What Saban has done is a more traitorous act -- the most traitorous act in the history of the franchise. He's leaving simply because he couldn't handle a hard job on the sidelines of a game in which he asks others to be violent. He gave up, in other words. And filing it under ''family'' now as a diluter, in search of understanding, rings hollow because you can't believe anything the man says about this situation. You think he'd be leaving if he were 13-3?

Saban, infomercial sermonizer, talked a lot about loyalty and integrity and toughness.

 

But, in the end, these were not his guides.

 

They were only the kinds of things he demanded of others.

 

LINK

 

Press conference is on ESPNews right now.

I can't stand Saban and his arrogant personality. He never did a damn thing in the NFL but came in acting like he was God and doing everyone a favor. Huizenga looked like a fool begging him to stay. Good riddance!

LOL :lol