October 8, 200718 yr i would keep our player we have now and sign up help for pitching staff and getting bond that will most likely retire after 2008 season he might likely go to mets or nyy
October 8, 200718 yr As for Bonds, all the steroid/cheater talk really takes a back seat for me to the belief that he isn't going to help the team defensively, hasn't had more than 400 at bats in a season since 2002 (and 403 in 2002). While admittedly his OPS is stellar, and BBs translates into a terrific OBP, his home runs are in decline and were he to lose just a split second in 2008 whether it be age generally or one of his nagging injuries, he could quickly go from the predator to the prey. It's hard for me to imagine him in anything other than a controlled environment, in other words DHing in the American league. Or retired.
October 8, 200718 yr As for Bonds, all the steroid/cheater talk really takes a back seat for me to the belief that he isn't going to help the team defensively, hasn't had more than 400 at bats in a season since 2002 (and 403 in 2002). While admittedly his OPS is stellar, and BBs translates into a terrific OBP, his home runs are in decline and were he to lose just a split second in 2008 whether it be age generally or one of his nagging injuries, he could quickly go from the predator to the prey. It's hard for me to imagine him in anything other than a controlled environment, in other words DHing in the American league. Or retired. Right... but he's walked 132 and 115 times the last 2 years... it's not like it's under 400 plate appearances... it's under 400 at bats and even with his decline in homeruns, his .565 would have put him at 6th in the NL if qualified say his slugging dropped to .500 next year, he'd still easily have a .900+OPS
October 8, 200718 yr Hey, we're talking pure fantasy now! A-Rod at SS Hanley to 3B Cabrera to 1B Jones in CF Bonds in LF Willingham to C (now known as the Butcher!)
October 8, 200718 yr Hey, we're talking pure fantasy now! A-Rod at SS Hanley to 3B Cabrera to 1B Jones in CF Bonds in LF Willingham to C (now known as the Butcher!) a real fantasy would have 3-4 puntolicious players
October 8, 200718 yr And let's not forget the 232 walks from 2004. obviously due to roiding up See now you're getting it! Roids + Bonds = Super human player Super Human player + Pitched Balls = Home Runs Home Runs + Opposing Pitchers = Fear Fear + Opposing Pitchers = More Walks
October 8, 200718 yr And let's not forget the 232 walks from 2004. obviously due to roiding up See now you're getting it! Roids + Bonds = Super human player Super Human player + Pitched Balls = Home Runs Home Runs + Opposing Pitchers = Fear Fear + Opposing Pitchers = More Walks I knew the equation well beforehand
October 8, 200718 yr As for Bonds, all the steroid/cheater talk really takes a back seat for me to the belief that he isn't going to help the team defensively, hasn't had more than 400 at bats in a season since 2002 (and 403 in 2002). While admittedly his OPS is stellar, and BBs translates into a terrific OBP, his home runs are in decline and were he to lose just a split second in 2008 whether it be age generally or one of his nagging injuries, he could quickly go from the predator to the prey. It's hard for me to imagine him in anything other than a controlled environment, in other words DHing in the American league. Or retired. Right... but he's walked 132 and 115 times the last 2 years... it's not like it's under 400 plate appearances... it's under 400 at bats and even with his decline in homeruns, his .565 would have put him at 6th in the NL if qualified say his slugging dropped to .500 next year, he'd still easily have a .900+OPS duh :banghead My bad
October 8, 200718 yr And let's not forget the 232 walks from 2004. obviously due to roiding up See now you're getting it! Roids + Bonds = Super human player Super Human player + Pitched Balls = Home Runs Home Runs + Opposing Pitchers = Fear Fear + Opposing Pitchers = More Walks You forgot... Fear + Hatred = The Dark Side
October 8, 200718 yr Hey, we're talking pure fantasy now! A-Rod at SS Hanley to 3B Cabrera to 1B Jones in CF Bonds in LF Willingham to C (now known as the Butcher!) a real fantasy would have 3-4 puntolicious players Alex Rodriguez Barry Bonds Andruw Jones I think I made my quota :-) Willingham as a Catcher with his current stats and I think I caused my quota to explode into confetti!
October 8, 200718 yr gimme Juan Pierre, Scott Podsednik and Nick Punto somewhere on that team... These players would def offset all the meaningless HR hit by Arod and Barry. Career LOSERS.
October 8, 200718 yr Google Search reveals no fines. Hooray the Internet. According to an N.L. club official who has spoken with the Giants, San Francisco's front office "wasn't happy about it by any means." Tampering charges seemed possible, but Loria says he and Giants president Peter Magowan have talked and smoothed things over. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m120..._n16521197/pg_2 Hooray. Intelligence - 1, BroncoBob - 0. That's funny. But I didn't say they were fined. I said I would go with everything I have read from other sources saying a fine was levied. Knock my intelligence all you want. I still go with what every other media source reports over your infatuation with making up/twisting facts to make your self look good. Just like this time. Now read that article again. Alls it says is that some diciplinary action may be taken, as in "tampering charges seemed possible." It hadn't at that time. Nothing at all says NO FINES were ever levied. The only way you could read this differently is if you think the Giants were the ones that would be setting some type of fine, and Loria had sweet talked them out of it. One article that dosen't really back up your "intelligent" revelation against so many in just the last few days, not to mention in the past. Intelligent people go with the numbers on this one.
October 9, 200718 yr As for Bonds, all the steroid/cheater talk really takes a back seat for me to the belief that he isn't going to help the team defensively, Who cares? hasn't had more than 400 at bats in a season since 2002 (and 403 in 2002). Useless stat! Bonds played 126 games, which if the team platoons him with Ross it'll put up 1.050+ OPS from the LF spot While admittedly his OPS is stellar, and BBs translates into a terrific OBP, his home runs are in decline and were he to lose just a split second in 2008 whether it be age generally or one of his nagging injuries, he could quickly go from the predator to the prey. OBP is far better than SLG, his HRs are only 'in decline' when compared to his amazing peak, he is putting out HRs at a 35+HR pace if he were playing 155G It's hard for me to imagine him in anything other than a controlled environment, in other words DHing in the American league. Or retired. Barry Bonds has several years left, and will be a DH, but he can roam LF for another couple I'd think.
October 9, 200718 yr bonds hitting behind Miguel Cabrera would give Miggy pitches to hit. Imagine the payoff of the lineup Hanley SS Hermida RF Cabrera 3B Bonds LF Willingham 1B Uggla 2B TBD CF TBD C Willis SP Be nice to dream, as miggy would get lots of pitches as would hanley and Hermida. That would be one of, if not the best lineup in the Majors. and Bonds Miggy makes the best 3/4 in baseball arguably.
October 9, 200718 yr I actually put Bonds ahead of Cabrera if we're doing that, because that would give 3 potential .380+ OBP guys in front of Miguel (Not to mention a potential .500 OBP).
October 9, 200718 yr Fear + Hatred = The Dark Side Actually that's Fear -> Anger -> Hate -> Suffering -> The Dark Side I myself think we need to go for the _-Rods. A-Rod and I-Rod. They've been teammates before.
October 9, 200718 yr No need to get Barry Bonds... Lets just get some pitching and fill the holes with afordable decent players... It doesnt matter how many Homer's Barry hits if were giving up 10 runs a game.. Plus am sure he wants to end his career with a team thats gonna be in the playoffs...
October 9, 200718 yr I actually put Bonds ahead of Cabrera if we're doing that, because that would give 3 potential .380+ OBP guys in front of Miguel (Not to mention a potential .500 OBP). I like this as well. That line-up would be so fierce if the holes in CF and C are filled. And Cody PH vs lefties or starting in LF vs lefties to give Barry a day off here and there. Massive.
October 9, 200718 yr No need to get Barry Bonds... Lets just get some pitching and fill the holes with afordable decent players... It doesnt matter how many Homer's Barry hits if were giving up 10 runs a game.. Plus am sure he wants to end his career with a team thats gonna be in the playoffs... Sure worked out for Jeff Conine. :mischief
October 9, 200718 yr No need to get Barry Bonds... Lets just get some pitching and fill the holes with afordable decent players... It doesnt matter how many Homer's Barry hits if were giving up 10 runs a game.. Plus am sure he wants to end his career with a team thats gonna be in the playoffs... 1) No player that is decent is affordable in this market 2) I very much doubt we give up 10 runs a game. It takes a tremendous effort to be as bad as we were this year with a home ballpark like pro player. The numbers will even out 3) I also very much doubt this is his last season. He wants 3,000 hits as a left-fielder. NL teams have a huge edge with him. He's made no secret he's not ready to be just a DH.
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